I'm very happy with all of the announced changes. I hope they continue writing transparent blog posts about the game's development. And I'm really looking forward to seeing what kind of radar they go with. I absolutely love Destiny's tracker so I'm open to a different one. My only complaint is that the Spnkr is only a legendary weapon. We'll probably have to use the boring brown tube Rocket Launcher the majority of the time.
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Halo |OT 23| Thruster is Love, Thruster is Life
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Overall 343 uses a level of vocal filtering that I think just feels excessive ("in-helmet" Cortana, Steitzer) but interestingly they use less effects for the "radio voices" than Bungie ever did.
Prinz Eugn
Member
I feel like this is a trap.
I wonder how they never anticipated that fans wouldn't want the SPNKr back. As soon as I saw that green tube generic design I knew it meant the SPNKr was cut. A weapon that's been iconic since CE as a major Halo weapon. Glad it's coming as a legendary weapon, but if it plays well, looks great, I'd rather just use it in place of the new one.
Mate, everybody wants sprint in the game.It's possible, just not a fan of the 11% sprint poll results, the poll itself was skewed in such a way were it wasn't fully asked and took a few questions to finally get your answer across. Add in the selective chance to the poll. The whole irony is this is coming after
Links:
http://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/2qpdbm/surprising_poll_results_sprint_halo_does_the/
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-selection_bias
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I get it, it's just ironic now looking back at it.
But Team BRs in past Halos was the root of the problem to begin with. Esports Halo had to force the BR start because the other weapons in the sandbox didn't provide a competitively sound game.
In H5, I'm impressed with all of the weapons so far, I think they were all situational, which is what HCE is like.
Also, the motion tracker is another great example...we disable it in esports Halo...yet no one seems to understand that the motion tracker is a HUGE crutch for casual players, without it, they're clueless.
So if HCS doesn't have sprint and default Halo 5 does...I think that's the least of the worries.
H5 Steitzer Power Rankings:
1. Purrrfect
2. Combat Evolved
3. Snipeltaneous
4. BXR
5. Hat Trick
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901. Hard Target
902. Reversal
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9001. Big Game Hunter
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900001. "Deeyubble Kill"
Overall, I liked most of his H5 announcements. A few just sound off
Poodlestrike
Banned
I'd swap in Top Gun for Hat Trick.
Obviously the big talking point of the day is the Beta blog post, but I can't get over how much interesting dialogue was actually removed from Halo 3. Now there's always reasons for things to meet the cutting room floor, but honestly I thought several lines in the second vid would have greatly added to experience--namely several Cortana and Gravemind lines.
I mean there's the nod that Cortana makes that if Chief didn't destroy Halo 04 then it wouldn't be at the Ark now being rebuilt with Gravemind and the majority of the Flood forces trying to fight over control of the Ark--as if Cortana planned it perfectly like that all along. There's also tons more oblique nods to Gravemind's/The Flood's past and how he's been plotting and planning for eons to again rise to power, but is then unabashedly enraged that it's all been undone by a single A.I.'s trickery. Good stuff, really fascinating to hear it (even extra lines of "Crazy Cortana" banter).
Johnson (singing)
"Some enchanted evening... you will meet a cyborg..."
And as great as all that is, I just simply cannot ignore that user's video of Halo DK mode.
Seriously, what a day...
How about a motion tracker that gives precise position of all players, including motionless ones, but that data is only updated on the tracker with every 2-3 second "ping"? I some ways that would make it similar to Destiny's I suppose.
TheOhrenberger.
Banned
I'm curious to see how this game will be played at it's highest level with the ability to disable sprint and other spartan abilities. While options are always nice, I hope this doesn't become a case of competitive Halo playing vastly different from the way the game plays out of the box.
Also I like my dudebro spartans. I want more high fives, not less!
Also I like my dudebro spartans. I want more high fives, not less!
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Halo needs more fun stuff like this. It's how you can keep the game feeling fun and appeal to all crowds without artificially changing the tone of the game.
Speaking of which, where's Halo Kart or Mini Spartans for Custom Games?
I don't like "including motionless ones." I just think they need to either remove it completely or make it sound/health-based, and the ping idea might be alright under these circumstances.
I would absolutely love it if they were to add some more "silly" skulls in 5. For example big head or mini character models.
Also skulls in custom games.
I'm criticising the fact that MCC is still a broken clusterfuck and the communication of late has been virtually non-existent yet all of a sudden we've got 343 employees popping up shouting "look over here, look over here!" for a blog post about the next product we're supposed to spend money on.
Two teams. I don't get pissed at the UC4 team for not showing me tLoU2 stuff. We already have a targeted release for the biggest patch ever. That was just announced a week ago. Not to mention planned fixes (hit reg. etc)
edit: way to ignore the rest of my post
If every 2014 Ford Taurus sold spontaneously combusted in December do you think Ford's other team would be out there shouting that "you're really going to love the new Mustang tho!"
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying they shouldn't be working on Guardians but it's incredibly tone deaf and insulting to paying customers that they're pushing it so hard when there's radio silence on MCC a lot of the time.
I think it is time for me to change it back.
The one I was using was a shittly photoshopped version of the "Vietnam war memorial Halo edition" picture that went around awhile ago. It just turned out to be a big bag of ass.
Here's the full res along with the image I based it off.
Welfare
Member
I thought it was tear in the visor, not that.
I thought it was a pipe, like a smoking pipe. I'll admit I didn't look very hard.
Welfare
Member
Not tear as in crying tear, but of a rip in the visor. Knew I should've picked a different word for that.
If the full-autos are getting nerfed, what else needs tweaking to them?
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
Not new, just adaptable.
GringoSuave89
Banned
Has the sole Killpocalypse been posted here yet?
http://xboxclips.com/Omnipression/7f083239-afea-48c4-b3eb-9be3a9ffa832
http://xboxclips.com/Omnipression/7f083239-afea-48c4-b3eb-9be3a9ffa832
I don't think anyone who read those notes is ok with the MCC situation. It's still fair for people to be happy that some of their feedback was listened to for Halo 5.
I encourage anyone who has the digital MCC to get a refund ASAP, and if you got physical, RIP.
Thanks, hadn't seen it. Never noticed Steitzer takes a break during Spartan Chatter but it's immediately obvious after the overkill.
Maybe Halo Waypoint should just be modified with a large red banner that says,
"HALO MCC AND HALO 5 ARE SEPARATE TEAMS WITHIN 343."
or throw that up for the message of the day till it's fixed.
Seriously.
That's really cool.
Something else I found interesting in the little stats infographic...
Apparently Blue won 52.55% of matches and Red won 47.45%. With a total of 20'000'000 matches.
That means that Blue won: 20'000'000*0.5255 = 10'510'000. Whereas Red won 9'490'000.
That's a difference of 1'020'000 matches.
Now, I thought it would be interesting to try and figure out what the probability of this difference happening would be, assuming that the probability of either team winning was 50%. It's negligible, and by negligible I mean literally negligible. There would be a higher chance of you being struck by lightning every year for rest of your life. It essentially broke Wolfram Alpha trying to find out.
Basically, Blue is 100% statistically proven to be the better team.
Apparently Blue won 52.55% of matches and Red won 47.45%. With a total of 20'000'000 matches.
That means that Blue won: 20'000'000*0.5255 = 10'510'000. Whereas Red won 9'490'000.
That's a difference of 1'020'000 matches.
Now, I thought it would be interesting to try and figure out what the probability of this difference happening would be, assuming that the probability of either team winning was 50%. It's negligible, and by negligible I mean literally negligible. There would be a higher chance of you being struck by lightning every year for rest of your life. It essentially broke Wolfram Alpha trying to find out.
Basically, Blue is 100% statistically proven to be the better team.
Welfare
Member
Ha! Suck it Reds!
Computer
Member
They need to get the Steitzer call outs to have some kind of order of significance. That was just wired to listen to. The multi kills should be said before all others or drop the ones that are not as important during a multi kill.
Good maths.
Even though that's only a variance of 5%, over such a large sample size that clearly proves that Blue team has a distinct advantage and cannot be written off due to sheer random odds. Now what that advantage is be it visibility, spawn and/or something else is up for debate.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Regarding the beta blog I'm just happy to see datacentre selection as opt in, GREAT MOVE 343. Now 343 please take this advice and extend that DC choice to coop and custom games too.
Regarding CSR I understand team ranking is paramount, accepted. However being the beta only had arena I presume other playlists will be individual based? Hopefully the other default playlists are individual e.g. objective or team slayer.
Funny thing about this is there has been many studies in recent times (like the last 20 years) for IRL competitive sports and there is a measurable psychological advantage to team colours such as red. To have this data show Halo online as blue team winning flies in the face of IRL studies. I can't say I ever bought into the data for red being dominate so I'm happy to see blue get in front. SUCK IT RED.
Regarding CSR I understand team ranking is paramount, accepted. However being the beta only had arena I presume other playlists will be individual based? Hopefully the other default playlists are individual e.g. objective or team slayer.
Funny thing about this is there has been many studies in recent times (like the last 20 years) for IRL competitive sports and there is a measurable psychological advantage to team colours such as red. To have this data show Halo online as blue team winning flies in the face of IRL studies. I can't say I ever bought into the data for red being dominate so I'm happy to see blue get in front. SUCK IT RED.
I saw that edit
To make it slightly more maths-y... The chance of being hit by lightning once a year for 80 years is around 1.2*10^-453 %. It would even less likely for Blue to have won that many more if the teams were even.
But yeah, they certainly have an advantage. I'd imagine it's most likely visibility as the majority of the maps were symmetrical.
Oh ok, so tashi and stinkles are in the Halo 5 team right? Because they've said bupkiss about MCC lately.
What about one which reacts to gunfire only?
GringoSuave89
Banned
Agreed. Multikills/rare medals should take precedent.
Awesome! Looking forward to a time when the complaining can stop.
Also, there wasn't a mention of it in the blog post (or at least I didn't notice it) however are you guys addressing the fact the Blur visibility issue?
I'm hoping the complaining about the MCC can subside, at least a little bit.
Poodlestrike
Banned
How about they put the dev kits down and try and fix my FEELINGS
It's possible, just not a fan of the 11% sprint poll results, the poll itself was skewed in such a way were it wasn't fully asked and took a few questions to finally get your answer across. Add in the selective chance to the poll. The whole irony is this is coming after
Links:
http://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/2qpdbm/surprising_poll_results_sprint_halo_does_the/
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-selection_bias
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I get it, it's just ironic now looking back at it.
You may not like it but the poll was the poll. We weren't trying to confirm some bias. There's nothing skewed or controlled about the stats, numbers or feedback. That's the feedback.
Do you guys think it would be a good idea to have the pros vote on HCS settings? Would you guys even allow for no sprint to be the gold standard for HCS and have a MM playlist at launch with that? Keeps all parties happy, IMO.