Around 9:45 in the Giant Bomb video. Not sure if it only works against vehicles or what.
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Halo |OT 24| In Before the Locke
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Drillbreak
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I mean, I guess it makes sense.
Vehicles would melt under 12 people, and with power weapons given like candy no less.
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
Fuck that shit.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Skins changing gameplay?
Wow
Wow
And with new mobility like thrust and clamber, it's probably easier to dodge.
I can understand that more open, sandbox gameplay is something that can mess up, especially for a product still in development. Having said that, the demo showed stuff that I didn't want to see. Upon watching it again, the Artemis activating seemed to be a scripted event. The floor dropping beneath the player's feet was most definitely scripted. Locke grabbing the ledge to keep from falling seemed like something scripted. These scripts seem like they will be in the final game, taking control away from the player. This is different from stuff that looks scripted for the sake of showing features. This would be the "Tanaka and Vale go Left, Buck and I will go right" styled commands. Or the 343i E3 trailer special where the protagonist gets knocked down by some Promethean character.
I can understand the latter series of scripts, but the former are part of why I'm not a fan of Halo 4's campaign or the Halo 3 Cortana moments.
Forerunner
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As long as it stays in Warzone, I don't care. If you don't like perk advantages and things of that nature, just don't play Warzone.
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
Fuck that shit jem. Even for you this is gross and annoying. Think for once.
Welfare
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Enter The 36 Chambers
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And?
Tying gameplay modifying weapon skins of all things to retailer pre order bonuses or whatever is lame.
Jesus, all I'm doing is telling you the facts. I'm sorry that's getting in the way of your flood of salt.
Again, I'm literally just telling you how it works. So much overraction has occurred in this community due to misinformation and the lack of complete details.
SMH. I find it hilarious that you think it's "gross" to inform people of the full story, I really do. Would you rather I said nothing so you could go on a massive rant about how 343 is ruining Halo? I didn't offer a single opinion in that post, I literally just told you the facts. If you think that makes me part of the "pr machine" then you're even more jaded and cynical than I thought. Seriously, grow the fuck up. This tirade of bullshit is beyond tiring.
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
You're a great part of the 343 pr machine bruh.
If it's not for you, it's not for you man, you don't have to worry about the skins or Warzone.
Its completely optional.
ftfy
Not salty at all.
More HUD customization would be welcome though. The Witcher 3 was pretty good for that.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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Fair enough, but again, you don't even have to know it exists. Just enjoy arena or campaign.
I remember Frank saying anything you obtain from pre-orders can be obtained yourself fairly easily (he was talking armor at the time).
I'll reserve judgement before further explanation.
RowdyReverb
Member
Rude. What jem said isn't inaccurate and it was a reasonable response.
343i basically forked H4's multiplayer into two separate games to cater to their split fanbase. Warzone is obviously made for people who like Halo or FPS in general who don't give a damn about equal starts, perfect balance, or traditional Halo gameplay. Arena is the very opposite, built with forum dwellers and competitive veteran Halo players in mind.
If Warzone's approach bothers you, you should just tune out all future news regarding it. Treat it as a game you're not interested in.
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
Warzone sounds fun, but this stuff literally kills all interest for it. And the fact that it sounds like preorder stuff will be exclusive.
That's sheisty.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Man, you are standing there calling Jem a slrpr for being accurate.
Time to dial it back a little
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Rag is like bizarro-world Jem
both are terrible tho
both are terrible tho
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
I deny nothing.
If it's a card, that means it expendable, not unlimited. At least, I think. Hopefully some more details soon.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Who is Warzone for?
I'd rather have a fleshed out Firefight.
I'd rather have a fleshed out BTB experience not based around random elements.
I like the decades worth of fighting over spawns to control items and vehicles and fighting for control of the game.
Warzone sounds like the worst elements of the nasty random mess of Halo 4's attempt at Halo multiplayer. I couldn't stomach Halo 4's pretend BTB for more than a few weeks.
I'd rather have a fleshed out Firefight.
I'd rather have a fleshed out BTB experience not based around random elements.
I like the decades worth of fighting over spawns to control items and vehicles and fighting for control of the game.
Warzone sounds like the worst elements of the nasty random mess of Halo 4's attempt at Halo multiplayer. I couldn't stomach Halo 4's pretend BTB for more than a few weeks.
Drillbreak
Banned
Honestly, as long as the *gulp* gameplay affecting weapons are unlockable through normal manes, I'm somewhat okay with it.
Warzone is a totally different experience from the basic MP in the game.
I will miss Firefight though. It was a great way to warm up.
Poodlestrike
Banned
I will say tho, I do hope that it's not retailer/preorder exclusive. Like, preordering at Gamestop gets you Locke's armor, but you can still unlock it in game. If it's like that, I'd be much happier.
I like the sound of it. Gonna be a glorious clusterfuck.
I like the sound of it. Gonna be a glorious clusterfuck.
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
Yes. This.
<3
Casual players who like Halo 4's style of gameplay, I mean they do exist. BTB was the most popular H4 playlist.
I think it looks like a lot of fun as long as you don't take it too seriously.
Well obviously, they still have that casual fan base though. Lots of people have been saying they like the look of Warzone, it clearly appeals to the casual player pretty hard. Big battles, lots of action.
Spawning with plasma pistols and plasma grenades was the worst aspect IMO. I still enjoyed H4 BTB but it had some issues.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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I think that's because everyone but the casuals dropped Halo 4 almost instantly. Kinda skews the data a little I feel.
Where's the population graph..
hm... I was sort of wondering if there was a Warzone variant that was just 1 human team vs AI.
What was wrong with H4 BTB? Ordinance?
Ah, I see. That's not changing for H5?
Drillbreak
Banned
Yeah.
Power weapons were absolutely everywhere, DMRs and flinch stifled the map, vehicles were paper, and you could spawn with plasma grenades and plasma pistols.
I'm hoping they just eat each other. Then we all win
CreateNowSleepLater
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New pictures of the real Limited Collectors Edition statue:
That isn't a very nice statue. Titanfall was like 2 feet tall. The Reach statue is nicer than that. If this was both full teams then yeah. $150 for that? The animated thing will be on YT in a day and Netflix shortly after. Plus, its going to be that Halo Channel nonsense, not a Bluray or anything.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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So now that Maps technically have no monetary value, what are the chances Forge will be an actual mapmaker?
Fallout is supporting mods on Xbox One.
Why not develop a pc program that allows us to make maps and transfer them over from Windows 10?
Nows the time.
Fallout is supporting mods on Xbox One.
Why not develop a pc program that allows us to make maps and transfer them over from Windows 10?
Nows the time.
SalientOne
Internet Batman
It's made by TriForce and SO much higher quality than either of those statues (I have held all three), but to each their own.
Hey Josh, can you confirm if we're getting cosmetic weapon attachments in Arena? There's some confusion about it all...
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Don't need a PC program if the map maker is good enough, see the new Doom.
Frankie has said Forge has been "significantly improved and it's not just an iteration. So take what he says is true and wait and see.
link1201
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I would love this for forge creators. It would be a great addition.
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
Ok, then the pictures don't do it justice. That's what happens when you announce the most expensive CE in franchise history without any picture. The Reach statue has all of Noble Team and the Titanfall one lights up and is gigantic. I own both.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Would prefer a PC program, honestly. There's a reason you don't see many graphic designers working with controllers
GringoSuave89
Banned
Would prefer a PC program, honestly. There's a reason you don't see many graphic designers working with controllers
Yeah, a PC program would be far more manageable than trying to fidget with my controller.
Fata1moose
Banned
I wouldn't get your hopes up, even if Forge has been substantially improved we still know that we'll be using gray blocks to build everything. We saw forge maps in the beta.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
lol Embrace our inner eggheads we all must! Maybe enough time has passed that people will see the humor in Halo again. I'm glad you guys aren't pumping it as this super serious, super sophisticated story anymore and seem to be embracing the funnier parts of Halo, like Grunts squealing in English.
For people who want to mess around in Halo's sandbox without thinking about "Who is this gametype for?"
Firefight was cool and still a lot of potential left to be explored. Firefight Versus, for example, could be fleshed out into an exciting mode of its own.
That can still be a thing, and playing on these large maps, 12v12, could be very interesting without AI depending on weapon, vehicle, Power-up, spawn points, etc. placements.
Eh, seems like the Doom editor is gonna be fairly basic in term of geometry. Reminds me a lot of the Timesplitters editor. Also, if Forge has been significantly improved then the beta Forge maps aren't showing that at all.
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