Why do you think it contradicts it? Infinity is commissioned, has ulterior motive, seeks out Requiem and (live action) gets 'sucked in'.
Seems to be accurate?
Edit: By sucked in I mean controlled by Didact and then crash lands on Requiem
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Why do you think it contradicts it? Infinity is commissioned, has ulterior motive, seeks out Requiem and (live action) gets 'sucked in'.
Seems to be accurate?
Edit: By sucked in I mean controlled by Didact and then crash lands on Requiem
Der Flatulator
Member
Premium quality!Waiting for Spartan Ops information. Mood pictured:
Steelyuhas
Member
I believe in the IRC, she said that she was cautious or concerned about the MP because she really liked bare bones Halo, and 4 is shaping up to be quite the opposite.
lol
Bregmann Roche
Member
Which Spartan Ops info are you waiting for? The stuff we already got?Waiting for Spartan Ops information. Mood pictured:
Referring to (Primordium spoilers)
Guilty Spark taking over the ship he was on at the end of Primordium? We don't know what ship that was, or when it took place. May not have been the Infinity, may not have been during the right time period.
Hitmonchan107
Member
I'll make this brief:
Nylund's writing style --
"The Spartans stood there a moment—undoubtedly communicating with one another through a mixture of externally silent COM channels and minute body language. She noticed the tick of a finger, the slight nod of a head. They then moved together, picked up their equipment, and walked through the threshold of the vault."
He makes keen observations, noting minute details of the scene. But for the most part, he rarely delves into the emotion and thought behind the detail. Why not a nervous tick of a finger or a leading nod of a head? Tell me why these details are important. Plus, his writing is sparse and dry.
Bear's style --
"Twenty kilometers away, the central peak of Djamonkin Crater rose through blue-gray haze, its tip outlined in ruddy gold by the last of the setting sun. A single brilliant moon rose bright and cold behind our boat. The crater’s inland lake rippled around the hull in ways no tide or wind had ever moved water. Under the swells and whorls, sparkling with reflected sunset and moon, pale merse twisted and bobbed like the lilies in my mother’s pond. These lilies, however, weren’t passive flowers, but sleeping krakens growing in the shallows on thick stalks. Ten meters wide, their thickened, muscular edges were rimmed with black teeth the length of my forearm."
His writing is dripping with meaningful detail. Not only does he observe, he says why it matters. The lake doesn't just ripple; it ripples in an unfamiliar fashion. His command of verbs -- twisted, bobbed, rimmed -- is top-notch. Reading his work is an absolute treat.
Bornstellar
Member
Primordium spoiler for those that don't remember:
EDIT:
My assumption was that the ship was the Infinity, but I guess this is not specifically mentioned, so in that case we have a third element.
Also, I do hope that some of the characters from Glasslands are represented in the game.
She showed up in chat. Says she is worried, likes base naked Halo best, but also doesn't care much bout Halo right now. Something along those lines. She also had a naked Timedog next to her, so....
How far'd you get? I like Cryptum after a certain point.
In Cryptum, the lead character has a couple of companions along with him for the duration of the book. One was large, and one was smaller, and that's all I can tell you about them. I know nothing of their character, their history, their motivations, or even what they did for most of the story. They were just sort of along for the ride.
Bear really didn't touch on character much, until the Didact shows up. He's wonderfully grouchy.
OK, I can see that his writing may be superior, but dear lord do his books meander for the first (large) chunk of the book. It would enough to put most people off. Nothing meaningful seems to happen, then suddenly info dump at the end.
Hitmonchan107
Member
I agree that there are elements of writing that other Halo writers do better (like Traviss), but Bear has my favorite style.
Maybe I was too absorbed in the novel to realize that the plot wasn't moving forward rapidly. I'll give the book another read soon.
Bornstellar
Member
Also, am I crazy or is there some kind of vanquish-style boost slide in the game?
Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsASUunyWhw&feature=player_detailpage#t=68s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsASUunyWhw&feature=player_detailpage#t=87s
Awesome if so.
Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsASUunyWhw&feature=player_detailpage#t=68s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsASUunyWhw&feature=player_detailpage#t=87s
Awesome if so.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
No joke, I almost instantly glazed over when reading that Bear excerpt. I tend to shut off when reading his more flowery prose -- it feels unnecessary to me. Rather than painting a picture, it bores me, and next thing I know I've read a paragraph without even paying attention. I'm thinking of my favorite writers, and none of them are especially heavy on longwinded picture painting like Bear is. But I'm not against it as a rule. I don't it's a matter of short attention span on my part. It really is just how Bear describes things. I wish I could articulate myself better on this.
I like Nylund's short/choppy, action-focused writing. He's no master wordsmith, but he keeps me interested.
3/4s through the first time, and about 50 pages through the second.
User 73706
Banned
Maybe the ship in question is the Spirit of Fire. It'd give the crew
a reasonable chance to survive given Spark II's knowledge of slipspace travel
I'm guessing that's the Jump Pack that gives you some horizontal movement. If it also works in the air, it's going to have some awesome mindgame abilities and I'll probably stick to it. Also makes sense that it's almost entirely horizontal movement but keeps you still (as in, there's no dodging/ducking/etc animation) to sort of balance out Evade's old problems, while still giving Jetpack a place to co-exist (since it's almost entirely vertical movement).
Thrust pack.
I talking about basic nuts and bolts stuff, like defining characters and making them seem real, or at least interesting. There are major characters in Cryptum that have no character, which for me is a problem. Without anyone to anchor to, it's just these nondescript objects moving through a fuzzy narrative with strong prose.
I definitely agree with this in a lot of ways. I like the universe that Bear builds, but the events of importance get lost so easily in how he crafts his descriptions. At this point, I barely remember what happened in Primordium, but I could rattle off the plots of most of the other books without issue. Part of that is probably just how alien the worlds are that he's describing, but I think it's also the style.
Steelyuhas
Member
Maybe that's the "Thruster Pack"? When used on the ground, it gives you a quick boost in the direction you're moving, while air-borne allows for a little lift and directional thrust?
I couldn't really notice it in those clips, but the thruster pack the barn guy described sounds like what you're talking about.
Steelyuhas
Member
Our initial leaker said that the Thruster Pack and Jet Pack are seperate AA's, and that both are in the game. Thruster Pack being a directional boost and Jet Pack being, well, a Jet Pack.
RebornYeti
Member
Someone needs to make a gif of the tackle at 2:18 - 2:22 :lol
User 73706
Banned
I'm in love with the idea of the Thruster Pack. Just imagine tackling a guy head-on using it to bump them off the edge of a map, or on the opposite end, using it for some insane recoveries. You know all those times you tried assassinating someone, catching up to a vehicle, or skyjacking a Banshee either sprinting or jetpacking but didn't have the means to catch up horizontally? Problem solved. I think the only real question about it I have now if it's a full 360 degrees of range like Evade, or if it can only propel you forward wherever you're looking.
It definitely seems to be true as well. Looks like a jet packer coming back down from the sky in the Spartan Ops video. Blurg! I sure hope its not just like the Reach one. Was really hoping Thruster Pack was Jet Pack and that it gave you small boosts to gain some altitude but not a spaceship to the moon.
Steelyuhas
Member
Yeah I was hoping it was as well.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, I think that's part of it for me, too.
Everything I saw today was awesome! Graphics look amazing, weapons look fun to use, Forerunner weapons and enemies are cool, and the sound effects were top notch. Great job 343!
Now to top it off I'd love to see some competitive multi-player Halo 4 action that's going to keep me sucked in for a couple years. So far I keep hearing "War-games" is the competitive side of Halo 4. Are there numbered ranks? Is it going to be like Reach competitive MP? Reach Arena? What?
Because if it's anything like Reach with Spartan points race to the highest rank dress up my Spartan it's pointless and Living Dead will continue to be the most populated playlist in Halo "competitive".
Make Halo fun to play again competitively. I hope to see people raging because they can't get a 35 because they where "cheated", super-nerds selling 50's, MLG teams actually playing the MLG playlist and not going -75 and still winning. You know, real Halo.
Now to top it off I'd love to see some competitive multi-player Halo 4 action that's going to keep me sucked in for a couple years. So far I keep hearing "War-games" is the competitive side of Halo 4. Are there numbered ranks? Is it going to be like Reach competitive MP? Reach Arena? What?
Because if it's anything like Reach with Spartan points race to the highest rank dress up my Spartan it's pointless and Living Dead will continue to be the most populated playlist in Halo "competitive".
Make Halo fun to play again competitively. I hope to see people raging because they can't get a 35 because they where "cheated", super-nerds selling 50's, MLG teams actually playing the MLG playlist and not going -75 and still winning. You know, real Halo.
HiredN00bs
Member
I'm confused as to what this meant.
User 73706
Banned
It'd be interesting to see some games based on the Greg Bear trilogy that took a departure from the standard FPS that we're used to. Give it the "he oversees the pridelands, finds food for his family, and watches the gods build their machines" vibe that the one Halo 3 comic had. Have Bornstellar go through his ventures, make it a journey based on vistas and atmosphere rather than combat, and leave most of the real war aspect for cutscenes and backstory, while still making the aspects of war as brain-meltingly dangerous as they were in the novels, and have them impact the story likewise.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Thruster looks cool. Sparks r purdee. Guess it's their way of balancing evade?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Yeah, looks like it. Use the previous game's engine, bit more open-ended with the campaign gameplay, new multiplayer gametype, probably uses the previous game's playlists/matchmkaing.
Suits me just fine. Whatever Gears of War 4/Zero is, it's probably gonna be a big showcase for Unreal Engine 4, and that won't come out until...well, whenever the 720 is out.
Der Flatulator
Member
What do you think this is?
(Intentionally slow gif)
Also:
Also:
:rofl
Garrett 2U
Member
What do you think this is?
(Intentionally slow gif)
Ordinance drop indicator. In every video where it was shown, it filled up when the player got a kill. In the clip where the player grenades a warthog, it fills up and a waypoint pops up pointing to a sniper rifle.
RebornYeti
Member
I miss being able to render films to share them.
The other day I was jumping down from a platform on Corvette and in mid air no-scoped a plasma grenade with my sniper rifle, right out of the hand of a Brute winding up to throw it.
I survived a crazy intense wave of Heretic Heavies on Corvette all on my lonesome, with the final shootout climaxing in my rocket scooting the last Elite right past me, so I turn and assassinate him as the next wave starts. It was badass.
Tonight my co-op buddy was playing on Courtyard and took shelter from a wave of Heretic Snipers way back on the dead end overlooking the right side courtyard. Which worked well until the Elite Ultras landed and rushed him along with four Heretics. I did what I could from afar, but hot damn that was a desperate, inevitable, violent and hilarious end.
Wish I could show you.
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Halo 4 looks good, 343. I'll preorder the LE on Wednesday. Great job so far at the show, can't wait to see more.
And I think that's the ordnance icon from Reach.
The other day I was jumping down from a platform on Corvette and in mid air no-scoped a plasma grenade with my sniper rifle, right out of the hand of a Brute winding up to throw it.
I survived a crazy intense wave of Heretic Heavies on Corvette all on my lonesome, with the final shootout climaxing in my rocket scooting the last Elite right past me, so I turn and assassinate him as the next wave starts. It was badass.
Tonight my co-op buddy was playing on Courtyard and took shelter from a wave of Heretic Snipers way back on the dead end overlooking the right side courtyard. Which worked well until the Elite Ultras landed and rushed him along with four Heretics. I did what I could from afar, but hot damn that was a desperate, inevitable, violent and hilarious end.
Wish I could show you.
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Halo 4 looks good, 343. I'll preorder the LE on Wednesday. Great job so far at the show, can't wait to see more.
And I think that's the ordnance icon from Reach.
I hope someone answers the following tomorrow (or have they been answered by recent Beta leaks?)
- Are vehicles like Reach, where the are not tied to your health and can blow up at any time, or like Halo ODST/Halo 3/Halo 2 where they are tied to the driver's health?
- How does melee work against someone with any shields left?
- Is Jetpack as retarded as it was in Reach, or has it been toned down?
- Is BR 4 shot kill? Is DMR 5 shot kill?
- How do ranks work?
I have a million other questions that won't get answered, but that's enough for now.
- Are vehicles like Reach, where the are not tied to your health and can blow up at any time, or like Halo ODST/Halo 3/Halo 2 where they are tied to the driver's health?
- How does melee work against someone with any shields left?
- Is Jetpack as retarded as it was in Reach, or has it been toned down?
- Is BR 4 shot kill? Is DMR 5 shot kill?
- How do ranks work?
I have a million other questions that won't get answered, but that's enough for now.
Steelyuhas
Member
We should see plenty of "War Games" (competitive multi) tomorrow and the rest of E3. As for ranking systems, they haven't officially announced anything on that front, nor will they at E3 I assume. Frankie did address it a bit in this thread a few weeks ago and said they are looking at some ranked systems, but that you definitely wouldn't see a straight 1-50 from Halo 3.
None of those things are known. Being that the BR has 12 bursts per magazine and the DMR has 15 bullets per magazine though, I would assume that they are 4 and 5 shot kills, respectively.
In addition:
Covenant drop plasma grenades. When we kill Forerunner enemies, what kind of grenades do they drop? We've see builds where the HUD has three grenade slots.
I think the question about the vehicle health is the single most important one for me to get comfortable with BTB in Halo 4. If they fixed that, I will have confidence. If not, hope will wither.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
The vehicle health
Frankie pls
Frankie pls
Me too actually, which is why it tops the list.
User 73706
Banned
I have a feeling forerunner grenades are going to be the Firebombs of Halo 4, where they don't show up until mid/late in game but are way more powerful. At the least I hope they bypass the "grenade deflector" effect Watchers do so we can finally wreck their shit using grenades.
RebornYeti
Member
After seeing the Scattershot in action in the MP B-roll footage, I got an idea of what kind of grenades I would like the Forerunners to have. I would like them to be a type of shrapnel grenade that blow up and release many pieces of shrapnel that can bounce and ricochet off of walls, ceilings and floors.
Steelyuhas
Member
That's true.
This is totally jumping the gun, but one of my main concerns with BTB and being able to enjoy it is how it's set up in matchmaking. 343 has changed what Jeremiah did with the BTB playlist and has gone with pretty much all Slayer, which completely ruins the playlist for me.