• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Drama Hariseldon’s World | Visits to this thread may adversely affect your faith in humanity

CyberPanda

Banned
Mar 4, 2019
11,955
20,036
1,190
Last edited:
  • Triggered
Reactions: Teslerum

DunDunDunpachi

Patient MembeR
Apr 18, 2018
24,743
55,320
1,375
USA
dunpachi.com

Kazza

Banned
Oct 6, 2018
3,119
6,946
680
Hey I had plenty of Trump Derangement myself. My facebook memories pops up every now and then and makes me want to punch 2016 me right in the face.
Out of interest, how long did the TDS last for, and what finally broke the spell for you? Was is a single event, or did you just gradually get better over time?
 

hariseldon

Gold Member
Aug 22, 2018
6,110
12,390
770
Out of interest, how long did the TDS last for, and what finally broke the spell for you? Was is a single event, or did you just gradually get better over time?
Couldn't say for sure but I was there a good while - I particularly resented the comparison between Brexit (which I voted for) and Trump. I was there making the orange man bad small hands etc jokes, but then I just started to get tired of it, roughly the same time I started finding the SJW overload on RockPaperShotgun too much. I still wasn't fully cured when I arrived here, my early post history will attest to that, but talking to conservatives and finding they weren't demons, sitting back and questioning stuff, it ended up with my politics reshaping and judging on record rather than screeching. It's been a journey.
 

Stilton Disco

Member
Aug 22, 2014
5,838
4,293
655
England
I just come across this picture



I am aware of a few of those but are all of them real?
I'm able to confirm at least half of those are real, and have no reason to doubt the other half.

But eh, if they're the best actor that went for the role, and they're no striving for realism, then fair enough, meritocracy should completely ignore such minor considerations as appearence

What I don't trust however, is that all the people making the casting decisions are doing that.

I don't care what the resean for discrimination baded on race might be, it's still racist and I have nothing but contempt for it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MetalAlien

Scopa

The Tribe Has Spoken
Oct 27, 2017
8,329
13,714
860
your mind
Couldn't say for sure but I was there a good while - I particularly resented the comparison between Brexit (which I voted for) and Trump. I was there making the orange man bad small hands etc jokes, but then I just started to get tired of it, roughly the same time I started finding the SJW overload on RockPaperShotgun too much. I still wasn't fully cured when I arrived here, my early post history will attest to that, but talking to conservatives and finding they weren't demons, sitting back and questioning stuff, it ended up with my politics reshaping and judging on record rather than screeching. It's been a journey.
I remember when you REEE’d out and were gonna leave. Then you found your balls again, came back and now you’re here and I love ya.

There’s hope.
 

Kazza

Banned
Oct 6, 2018
3,119
6,946
680
Couldn't say for sure but I was there a good while - I particularly resented the comparison between Brexit (which I voted for) and Trump. I was there making the orange man bad small hands etc jokes, but then I just started to get tired of it, roughly the same time I started finding the SJW overload on RockPaperShotgun too much. I still wasn't fully cured when I arrived here, my early post history will attest to that, but talking to conservatives and finding they weren't demons, sitting back and questioning stuff, it ended up with my politics reshaping and judging on record rather than screeching. It's been a journey.
While I've never been super into any political party or ideology, I remember really liking The Young Turks at one point. It was only around the time of an incident involving some community watch man shooting a young black boy (Trayvon Martin?) that I started to have misgivings about them. It was a while ago, but I believe them using always using an old photo of the victim made me feel misled. I remember explaining the incident to my girlfriend at the time, saying "how can this big grown man have possibly been threatened enough by this little, cute black boy, so as to need to shoot him dead during a fist fight? It must have been a cold-blooded racist murder, right?". Then some recent CCTV footage of the victim came to light, showing him as this big grown young man and then I thought, ah, the community officer's story makes a little more sense now, him saying he shot them victim because he was losing the fight and having his head smashed into the pavement. However, the Young Turks continued to use the old photo and doubled down on the whole white-supremacy thing (despite the shooter apparently being Latino - not that that is a distinction we would make in the UK).

The other thing that turned me against (modern) left wing politics was, ironically, reading The Guardian. I was living abroad at the time and read The Times every day, but was forced to look for other options when they put up a paywall on their website. Well, the only newspaper that didn't erect a paywall was the Guardian so, being a cheap backpacker/traveller, that is the paper I started to read. Nothing can turn a normal, well-adjusted person against left-wing politics like reading The Guardian on a daily basis!

Edit: BTW, I never did find out what happened in that shooting case. I still thought at the time that that community watch guy shouldn't have went after him with a concealed weapon like that, especially as he didn't observe him committing any crime, but TYT's willingness to bend truth to fit a narrative really put me off them. It's been quite a journey, from genuinely admiring them back then, all the way to enjoying their meltdown on election night 2016!
 
Last edited:

hariseldon

Gold Member
Aug 22, 2018
6,110
12,390
770
While I've never been super into any political party or ideology, I remember really liking The Young Turks at one point. It was only around the time of an incident involving some community watch man shooting a young black boy (Trayvon Martin?) that I started to have misgivings about them. It was a while ago, but I believe them using always using an old photo of the victim made me feel misled. I remember explaining the incident to my girlfriend at the time, saying "how can this big grown man have possibly been threatened enough by this little, cute black boy, so as to need to shoot him dead during a fist fight? It must have been a cold-blooded racist murder, right?". Then some recent CCTV footage of the victim came to light, showing him as this big grown young man and then I thought, ah, the community officer's story makes a little more sense now, him saying he shot them victim because he was losing the fight and having his head smashed into the pavement. However, the Young Turks continued to use the old photo and doubled down on the whole white-supremacy thing (despite the shooter apparently being Latino - not that that is a distinction we would make in the UK).

The other thing that turned me against (modern) left wing politics was, ironically, reading The Guardian. I was living abroad at the time and read The Times every day, but was forced to look for other options when they put up a paywall on their website. Well, the only newspaper that didn't erect a paywall was the Guardian so, being a cheap backpacker/traveller, that is the paper I started to read. Nothing can turn a normal, well-adjusted person against left-wing politics like reading The Guardian on a daily basis!
Ah yes The Guardian. I used to be the kind of person who would read that and New Statesman. I just ran out of patience in the end. I've noped out of a few things for being just too damn left wing. Even my wife who's to the left of me (trust fund kid - enough said) noped out of The Last Leg on channel 4 having just grown tired of the fucking preaching. So much leftism being thrust down your throat inevitably leads to a reaction against it eventually.
 

Kazza

Banned
Oct 6, 2018
3,119
6,946
680
Ah yes The Guardian. I used to be the kind of person who would read that and New Statesman. I just ran out of patience in the end. I've noped out of a few things for being just too damn left wing. Even my wife who's to the left of me (trust fund kid - enough said) noped out of The Last Leg on channel 4 having just grown tired of the fucking preaching. So much leftism being thrust down your throat inevitably leads to a reaction against it eventually.
Do you know of any left wing sites/papers who haven't gone completely insane? That Kyle guy who appeared on Joe Rogan seems ok, and even Jimmy Dore seems ok sometimes (at least he sticks to his principles instead of doing the whole "orange man bad" act). They are a little too American for me though, I would prefer a more UK focused perspective. There's a Labour guy (I believe he is an ex fireman union man) called Paul Embery who seems to be a more traditional left wing type (i.e. without all the identity politics), but I believe he only writes on Twitter, and I don't like to visit that site too much. Spiked is another one, although they seem more contrarian than left or right wing.
 

CyberPanda

Banned
Mar 4, 2019
11,955
20,036
1,190
I'm able to confirm at least half of those are real, and have no reason to doubt the other half.

But eh, if they're the best actor that went for the role, and they're no striving for realism, then fair enough, meritocracy should completely ignore such minor considerations as appearence

What I don't trust however, is that all the people making the casting decisions are doing that.

I don't care what the resean for discrimination baded on race might be, it's still racist and I have nothing but contempt for it.
Imagine a white man playing as a Japanese man. Yaaaaaa
 
Last edited:
  • Thoughtful
Reactions: Ryujin

hariseldon

Gold Member
Aug 22, 2018
6,110
12,390
770
Do you know of any left wing sites/papers who haven't gone completely insane? That Kyle guy who appeared on Joe Rogan seems ok, and even Jimmy Dore seems ok sometimes (at least he sticks to his principles instead of doing the whole "orange man bad" act). They are a little too American for me though, I would prefer a more UK focused perspective. There's a Labour guy (I believe he is an ex fireman union man) called Paul Embery who seems to be a more traditional left wing type (i.e. without all the identity politics), but I believe he only writes on Twitter, and I don't like to visit that site too much. Spiked is another one, although they seem more contrarian than left or right wing.
Honestly at the moment I can't find anything. It's an absolute black hole, an intellectual void. The thing is that for the right to be effective it needs a left that isn't fucked, and of course vice versa. It's unhealthy for our political discourse for either side to be completely fucked.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Kazza

DunDunDunpachi

Patient MembeR
Apr 18, 2018
24,743
55,320
1,375
USA
dunpachi.com
Honestly at the moment I can't find anything. It's an absolute black hole, an intellectual void. The thing is that for the right to be effective it needs a left that isn't fucked, and of course vice versa. It's unhealthy for our political discourse for either side to be completely fucked.
But let's not fall into the trap of assuming that both "sides" are fully represented by one particular org or party.

To use a less-serious example, it's like when fanboys make excuses for Sony or for Microsoft's bad behavior by insisting "but the industry needs competition. Wouldn't it be much worse if there wasn't competition?!?" This presumes that no other brands could step in and perhaps offer something even better.

In much the same way, we shouldn't say "but The Right / The Left will get even more power hungry and will do even worse things if The Left / The Right isn't powerful enough to stop them!"

This can lead to "less of two evils" voting and stagnation instead of allowing bad parties to die and for better ones to take their place. The short-term losses for a particular ideology are nothing compared to the long-term gains if the ideology is strengthened from the ordeal.
 
  • Thoughtful
Reactions: Ornlu

Caffeine

Member
Jan 17, 2013
6,562
2,322
965
how much percentage on the clown world scale its over 9000! Edit headphone users its loud screaming
 
Last edited:

Ornlu

Member
Oct 31, 2018
3,022
4,485
610
Do you know of any left wing sites/papers who haven't gone completely insane? That Kyle guy who appeared on Joe Rogan seems ok, and even Jimmy Dore seems ok sometimes (at least he sticks to his principles instead of doing the whole "orange man bad" act). They are a little too American for me though, I would prefer a more UK focused perspective. There's a Labour guy (I believe he is an ex fireman union man) called Paul Embery who seems to be a more traditional left wing type (i.e. without all the identity politics), but I believe he only writes on Twitter, and I don't like to visit that site too much. Spiked is another one, although they seem more contrarian than left or right wing.
Honestly at the moment I can't find anything. It's an absolute black hole, an intellectual void. The thing is that for the right to be effective it needs a left that isn't fucked, and of course vice versa. It's unhealthy for our political discourse for either side to be completely fucked.
I think at the moment, there isn't really a trustworthy "establishment" voice for the "left". I put those in quotes as those are both subjective. You can find all sorts of leftie sites with valuable and interesting commentary...as long as you know what issues/people/organizations they will flat out never criticize or even discuss. The Intercept has interesting articles, but don't ever expect to see anything remotely critical toward progressives, or toward Russia/Cuba/Iran/Venezuela. The same goes for Jimmy Dore. If you can identify where the intentional blind spots are, you can find worthwhile content. Something akin to The Young Turks has basically zero worthwhile content at this point; YMMV when it comes to picking what to bother with. Don't expect to find any stories critical of Amazon or monopolies in general on The Washington Post, or expect to read any critiques of establishment Democrats on Bloomberg.

The same can apply to the "right" as well. The only difference being that they have 10% of the money and airtime as "left" outlets.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Kazza

MetalAlien

Member
Mar 6, 2005
12,576
8,857
1,880
Couldn't say for sure but I was there a good while - I particularly resented the comparison between Brexit (which I voted for) and Trump. I was there making the orange man bad small hands etc jokes, but then I just started to get tired of it, roughly the same time I started finding the SJW overload on RockPaperShotgun too much. I still wasn't fully cured when I arrived here, my early post history will attest to that, but talking to conservatives and finding they weren't demons, sitting back and questioning stuff, it ended up with my politics reshaping and judging on record rather than screeching. It's been a journey.
It's cool. Normal people change ideas all the time and friends can even disagree and still be friends despite what 2020 has to say about it. Even if you still hated Trump it wouldn't bother me we are all different and that's ok.

 

Aristide

Member
Jan 15, 2020
53
131
215
Transgender programmer/socialist/anarchist Tokyoite with over 100 self administered body mods
I had a character like that in Cyperpunk, but some intolerant DM decided she had to become a NPC as you can't play someone with homocidal cyberpsychosis.
 
Last edited:
  • LOL
Reactions: LMJ

cryptoadam

... and he cannot lie
Feb 21, 2018
16,335
28,287
1,115
If I just grow my hair out and wear a dress I am not a boring WHITE MAN anymore.

See I am special now. I am brave and stunning, not a toxic patriachal racist white man. All I have to say is I am not white and bam, I am a protected minority at the top of the oppression ladder.
 

Barnabot

Member
Oct 16, 2018
3,019
4,485
625
If I just grow my hair out and wear a dress I am not a boring WHITE MAN anymore.

See I am special now. I am brave and stunning, not a toxic patriachal racist white man. All I have to say is I am not white and bam, I am a protected minority at the top of the oppression ladder.
can i be also that by just ticking the "programmer" slot of the below bingo card?

Transgender programmer/socialist/anarchist Tokyoite with over 100 self administered body mods
also i don't know what "Tokyoite " even means?
 
  • Like
Reactions: cryptoadam

SCB3

Member
Nov 24, 2014
892
502
535


If I say gays are dangerously promiscuous, I'm an ignorant homophobic deplorable, but gays themselves apparently laugh at the idea of other people thinking 200 sexual partners is somehow a high ceiling.
Actually that is a point, why was it restricted to 200? I would've thought it would be hard coded to <99 or ends at quadruple digits (999)
 
  • Thoughtful
Reactions: off duty ninja

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Dec 3, 2013
37,293
62,666
1,170
what about the snake? what pronouns to use? is that gender neutral? is that still the devil or something else now? so many important questions...
That's an otherkin, you bigot!

Edit:
On a side note, did anyone else notice they made the transperson the "deceiver"?

When your woke IdPol bigotry projects in one swift circle.
 
Last edited: