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HD Zelda
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DarwinMayflower
Neo Member
The way I see it we're not going to get the "hd" that we want for the series. Looking at TP which was decent, I saw the character design and it was basically the same thing from OoT but with more polygons. Many of them just didn't sit well with me, mainly because it might have looked great in a more stylish interpretation like Wind Waker, but with such a realistic looking atmosphere, most of them looked like Goonies' Chunk.
However...with that said, I an ah-ha moment for me concerning more recent Zeldas and why we'll never get a GoW or the last guardian is that it seems that Zelda for the most part is a Japanese look at how to westernize Japanese mythos. While both types of fantasy do have similarities it seems there's more of an emphasis on translating it rather than making an authentically like a western based fantasy genre.
However...with that said, I an ah-ha moment for me concerning more recent Zeldas and why we'll never get a GoW or the last guardian is that it seems that Zelda for the most part is a Japanese look at how to westernize Japanese mythos. While both types of fantasy do have similarities it seems there's more of an emphasis on translating it rather than making an authentically like a western based fantasy genre.
DarwinMayflower said:
I think maybe you are a little too pessimistic because you are not taking into account the power of the hardware. Wind Waker and even parts of Twilight Princess had a lot of "wow" factor if you compare them to PS2 and Xbox level fantasy games. I feel that an HD Wii on the level of PS3 or higher opens up a lot more possiblities for the Zelda art team. A western style can be done in a much more believeable way with more power. Twilight Princess was mostly good except the Link character model which looked strange at certain times.
I find this comment from the Wii 2 thread to be interesting. I wonder what kind of expectations people have:
Neiteio said:If this thing can come within spitting distance of God of War III, then that's more than enough for me. I want the next gigantic boss I fight in Zelda to have all the animation intricacies of Hephaestus:
Seriously, that's plenty good enough. All improvements after that are splitting hairs, imo. And if this thing's more powerful than 360, then it's probably at least equivalent to a PS3, which means it could swing God of War.
The important thing here is the system will finally be in HD. Shame DKCR is doomed to languish in sub-standard fuzziness. Never again, Nintendo! HD, here we come!
DarwinMayflower
Neo Member
True there are some wow moments, but not to the capacity where it overwhelms you and is entirely breathtaking. Like I said it's not so much the hardware capabilities I'm worried about, but just the idea of Zelda Design that's the problem. Sure it opens up a lot of possibilities, but you have to have the ability to be progressive in order to use those capabilities to it's most effectiveness. It seems to me that it's more about "How can we make the previous game but just better looking" rather than progressing forward with a design that reflects the hallmarks of the current generation. It's the design that's stuck in the 16 bit era mentality with current gen hardware that's sort of inhibiting the potential progress that Zelda can really produce to wow us.apana said:
In some ways it's like Dragon Quest, a series steeped in tradition that people like and would hardly want to have change, however Zelda seems a little less successful because it has the not only the problem of keeping a similar gameplay mechanic, but also keeping the same mythos and characters in every installment.
Like I said there really isn't a huge problem with sticking to more of the same which Zelda is, and will always be done well enough to never be a shitty game. BUT for a series resting on it's laurels because every installment just tickles the nostalgia bone just right, I'm progressively moving on because of other games' qualities are overshadowing it and my nostalgia bone is getting far less easier to exploit. Other people might feel the same way, but for such an esteemed series, this is something that should never happen.
How About No
Member
ChuckNoLuck said:
So wait. When Nintendo develops a console capable of HD, you want them to keep Zelda at 480p at most? Oookay...
From The Dust
Banned
apana said:
My Little Pony is the shit, yo!
tea_and_crumpets
Member
If they go for the realistic style then I expect something like God of War 3, which is still this generations best looking game imo. If the HD Zelda could copy it's scale and graphics I would be very impressed.
A more stylised Zelda - I imagine it would look like Tales of Symphonia or Valkyria Chronicles.
A more stylised Zelda - I imagine it would look like Tales of Symphonia or Valkyria Chronicles.
Ahoi-Brause
Banned
That would be really horrible.tea_and_crumpets said:
HD Zelda should look like a ghibli movie or dragon's dogma. Depending which style they use.
MasterShotgun
brazen editing lynx
Someone posted this picture in the Zelda Art thread.
I would give my left testicle for the next game to look like that.
I would give my left testicle for the next game to look like that.
Mama Robotnik
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The Flood.
eXistor
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Disregarding the ridiculous notion that Zelda should have voice overs (just...no). Why are people listing well knows actors to do the voices? I'd want actual voice actors to voice these characters, not some actor using their normal voice.
While I have the feeling the next Zelda is gonna be more realistic looking, I just feel the more vibrant, cartoony look fits Zelda best. If they somehow manage to translate LttP's art style into 3d, that would be the best thing ever.
While I have the feeling the next Zelda is gonna be more realistic looking, I just feel the more vibrant, cartoony look fits Zelda best. If they somehow manage to translate LttP's art style into 3d, that would be the best thing ever.
Ahoi-Brause
Banned
Considering that TP looked worse than Shadow of the Colossus I wouldn't expect much from the next zelda anyways.
The zelda team just never moved with the times. They will just keep on cranking out OoT remakes without advancing the series beyond the N64 level of gameplay.
Nintendo should make a reboot like New Super Mario bros. New legend of zelda, that would be the best thing.
They could go back and relearn some mechanics they dropped since lttp.
The zelda team just never moved with the times. They will just keep on cranking out OoT remakes without advancing the series beyond the N64 level of gameplay.
Nintendo should make a reboot like New Super Mario bros. New legend of zelda, that would be the best thing.
They could go back and relearn some mechanics they dropped since lttp.
Ahoi-Brause said:
Or maybe if the online is as improved as rumored, they can have bigger, better downloadable titles. It would be great if they took away friend codes, took away the limit of space that a downloadable game can take, and released a 2.5D Four Swords Adventures sequel with online play for 1500 points.
disappeared
Banned
Mickey Rourke is the only choice if they decide to voice Link.
Joking aside, I just hope that we'll finally get a Zelda that might resemble all that old artwork from years ago. With Link looking onward to a castle atop a mountain far, far away. New tech could offer a sizable world, coupled with some incredible draw distances.
Joking aside, I just hope that we'll finally get a Zelda that might resemble all that old artwork from years ago. With Link looking onward to a castle atop a mountain far, far away. New tech could offer a sizable world, coupled with some incredible draw distances.
From The Dust
Banned
apana said:
no it's releasing after April
Black-Wind
Member
Well, officially after next April.From The Dust said:
But one of the rumors say June 2012. And given that he now have a 100% on this thing coming out its makes you wonder. (Plus, I believe that IGN said June and that it would be announced this month. )
And I feel it ... they're gonna ride the Zelda release wave once more. Just hope Retro isn't just making DKCR2 or w/e and are actually working on something unexpected.
DarwinMayflower
Neo Member
Despite my previous post saying that Nintendo ain't hitting my nostalgia button as much as it does regarding the Zelda series, seeing it in that style would basically make sweet love to it. Grew up in the 80's and the above pics have such the similar aesthetic that just transports me back to those days.apana said:
One of the most iconic pictures for me was this:
http://gallery.zeldalegends.net/displayimage.php?album=38&pos=76
From The Dust said:
Well a line in the sand needs to be drawn. After April of 2012 is way too late. If Nintendo does release it in April then they just shot themselves in the foot. I don't know how much you know about the Zelda fanbase (I'm an expert)....
Seriously tho April of 2012 or later release for Skyward Sword is a joke. November at the latest.
POWERSPHERE
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I just want games to look like art direction for games in the 80s. Like the painted promos for games, Atari box art, all that shit, lets do that.
From The Dust
Banned
apana said:
wut. SS is a 2011 game, dawg.
From The Dust
Banned
apana said:
that speculation is based on nothing other that TP. no rumors or anything. not even from non-credible sources
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Pretend for a moment that the characters in these shots aren't there.
Instead, imagine Link discovering a Fairy pond such as this;
Or wading and battling through a marsh like this;
Or the Princess herself wondering how she'll save her people;
Or Link poling himself across a dangerous stream;
...or discovering a clearing like this after passing the dangers.
I don't know. I think Twilight Princess really killed a lot of hope in many Zelda fans, where Wind Waker awakened our imaginations of what might be. I think Nintendo can and should do everything in its power to create a world like this (hopefully not limited to swamps and marshes, obviously), and I think they should do everything they can to remove their terrible, TERRIBLE character design from the series once and for all. Keep Link, Zelda, and the standard monsters. Please for the love of Ganon go back to the drawing board with the NPCs if you must include them.
Instead, imagine Link discovering a Fairy pond such as this;
Or wading and battling through a marsh like this;
Or the Princess herself wondering how she'll save her people;
Or Link poling himself across a dangerous stream;
...or discovering a clearing like this after passing the dangers.
I don't know. I think Twilight Princess really killed a lot of hope in many Zelda fans, where Wind Waker awakened our imaginations of what might be. I think Nintendo can and should do everything in its power to create a world like this (hopefully not limited to swamps and marshes, obviously), and I think they should do everything they can to remove their terrible, TERRIBLE character design from the series once and for all. Keep Link, Zelda, and the standard monsters. Please for the love of Ganon go back to the drawing board with the NPCs if you must include them.
Anticitizen One
Banned
Princess & The Frog is such an underappricated masterpiece
FunkyMunkey
Banned
Ahoi-Brause said:
No.
Anticitizen One
Banned
Ellis Kim said:
so you want it more like God of War?
Jax said:
Yeah but we may get some concept art or demos sooner than that in order to show off the potential for Wii 2. Didn't something similar happen with the gamecube? I think people will be surprised by just how impressive HD Zelda will look. Nintendo usually tries to push their hardware.
green sticker
Neo Member
An HD Zelda really gets me excited, even though I am someone always on the fence over the series. I would love to really see a Zelda game reach though because I think it would benefit greatly from a fresh take.
From The Dust
Banned
in anything, I'd like to see some variation in overworlds. a completely different asthetic than Hyrule. maybe have different countries or something