CoffeeJanitor
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I really want Zelda: Coffee Cafe to have an art style that is a mix between Galaxy, Gears, UC, Tetris and Oblivion (Not ES, OBLIVION).
What in the fuck would that look like
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PhoenixDark
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From The Dust said:
WRPG in terms of scope, huge environments and stuff. Not gameplay/visual style
They're going to stick with what they know. I used to get my hopes up every time over the thought of insane puzzles, huge detailed landscapes, decent storylines etc. Nah
It'll be fun, but it'll always feel like something that could have been way better
Black-Wind
Member
Yeah, I think its just from people not having the means to pin point what they like.Raging Spaniard said:
Personally I would LOVE a LOZ That looked like THIS
Mixed with THIS cartoony feel
I would really just enjoy a cartoony Young Link game where he doesn't look like Celda Link. Maybe on the 3DS :/
shadyspace
Banned
Jea Song said:
6/10
IonicSnake
Banned
Jea Song said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEF9Utdu-L0
Hopefully we'll have those animations at least.
Ni No Kuni is a great looking game and I could see an HD Zelda taking on a look like that. But SS already kinda has that look where its a mix of cel shaded and something more detailed like TP.
Personally while I would love a huge overworld that feels like a real world where you can go anywhere I always keep in the back of my head the idea that Nintendo wants Zelda to be more successful than it already is. I remember either Iwata or Miyamoto saying they felt Zelda was too complicated and that they were looking for ways to simplify it. To me this means being even more directed, linear and casual in its approach. I hope I'm wrong but I think this squashes my desire for a deeper, more open ended game.
Personally while I would love a huge overworld that feels like a real world where you can go anywhere I always keep in the back of my head the idea that Nintendo wants Zelda to be more successful than it already is. I remember either Iwata or Miyamoto saying they felt Zelda was too complicated and that they were looking for ways to simplify it. To me this means being even more directed, linear and casual in its approach. I hope I'm wrong but I think this squashes my desire for a deeper, more open ended game.
DarwinMayflower
Neo Member
Perhaps the best way to satisfy both sides of fans is to continue the tradition set by OoT and Majora and release this: Mainstream Zelda installment and then Batshit insane experimental side quest pseudo sequel in the vein of Majora, Phantom Hour Class and Spirit Tracks. However keep in line more with the former than the latter two, so really...console batshit insane experimental side quest installment.
I know this thread is more about the look of hd zelda but I figure its the best place to discuss hd zelda in general.
I just finished playing 30 minutes or so of Wind Waker, its my first time playing it in years, and I can honestly say now that if hd zelda had the same graphical style or similar but with more detail ala Ki No Kuni I wouldn't be disappointed at all. I imagine some zelda fans would want a more realistic look or something that would show greater graphical muscle but WW is just an amazing visual style. In HD and with more processing power the game would be even more fluid with less blurryness and crisper lines.
Also there is one concern I have about a next gen zelda that stems from TP and hd zelda-like games like the 3 fable games. That is that we will get larger towns and more npcs at the expense of the npcs and towns actually feeling "alive". In WW Windfall Island really feels like it has life. The npcs are all animated very well and have a fun bouncy quality to them. I think the fact that they look like cartoon characters really helps to make each npc feel different from the next. Even though they all only have 1 or 2 lines they repeat they help the world feel alive. Compare that to TP where Hyrule Town is waaay bigger but the npcs feel lifeless. IIRC many of them don't talk and for some reason they felt much more stilted. The fable games have even more large towns and even more npcs. But despite that and better AI with daily routines etc they also fail to create a sense of life, at least for me. I have a strange fear that HD Zelda will follow in this vein.
I just finished playing 30 minutes or so of Wind Waker, its my first time playing it in years, and I can honestly say now that if hd zelda had the same graphical style or similar but with more detail ala Ki No Kuni I wouldn't be disappointed at all. I imagine some zelda fans would want a more realistic look or something that would show greater graphical muscle but WW is just an amazing visual style. In HD and with more processing power the game would be even more fluid with less blurryness and crisper lines.
Also there is one concern I have about a next gen zelda that stems from TP and hd zelda-like games like the 3 fable games. That is that we will get larger towns and more npcs at the expense of the npcs and towns actually feeling "alive". In WW Windfall Island really feels like it has life. The npcs are all animated very well and have a fun bouncy quality to them. I think the fact that they look like cartoon characters really helps to make each npc feel different from the next. Even though they all only have 1 or 2 lines they repeat they help the world feel alive. Compare that to TP where Hyrule Town is waaay bigger but the npcs feel lifeless. IIRC many of them don't talk and for some reason they felt much more stilted. The fable games have even more large towns and even more npcs. But despite that and better AI with daily routines etc they also fail to create a sense of life, at least for me. I have a strange fear that HD Zelda will follow in this vein.
Ahoi-Brause
Banned
The problem with windwaker wasn't the style it was how empty and barren the world was.artwalknoon said:
They really fucked up with that.
Nintendo could've made the game an awesome adventure, with islands full of pirates, voodoo islands and lots of small treasure islands full of monsters and ghost pirates.
Instead the ocean was empty and devoid of life and navigating the boat was beyond masochistic. A windwaker with a monkey island scenario would've been so great.
Cygnus X-1
Member
Amir0x said:
This. Exactly this.
From The Dust
Banned
What about the Philips games?Amir0x said:
LegendofJoe
Member
I want Nintendo to make the next Zelda an awe-inspiring display of artistic talent. Whatever form it takes to achieve that will be fine by me.
From The Dust
Banned
man I still need to watch Tangled
A lot of choices here would be awesome (except that God of War one, way to show your terrible taste), but it's a shame that considering how long it takes to make a Zelda game (or how little they make them), we may never see enough entries within a reasonable amount of time that can satisfy all those art styles.
Do it! Do it! Do it!
From The Dust said:
Do it! Do it! Do it!
Confidence Man
Member
$200 said:
Too bright and colorful.
From The Dust
Banned
they tried that before (well kinda) and it sucked. that's why the enviroments will be smaller in SSPhoenixDark said:
Earl Cazone
Member
well that tangled pic looks like an overblown version of windfall island
JimmyRustler
Member
I'd really like to see a Zelda with Witcher 2 graphics, a lot of blood and a very mature storyline.
That would be something.... but I really need to wake up now.
That would be something.... but I really need to wake up now.
Souldriver
Member
No thanks.TheExorzist said:
JimmyRustler
Member
Ahhh... no imagination....Souldriver said:
AceBandage
Banned
TheExorzist said:
You're horrible...
I'm curious: Why do you want these elements in a Zelda game? Zelda's never really been about "mature" storyline or violent, bloody combat. Do you really want to see a dark revenge plot with a brooding Link chopping off Ganondorf's head with blood gushing out all over the place? Or do you just want a Zelda-like game (meaning dungeons and puzzles and stuff) with such a story and aesthetic, but it doesn't have to be about Link and the Triforce?TheExorzist said:
From The Dust
Banned
TheExorzist said:
Ahhh...bad ideas...
Souldriver
Member
...have to people who made the Witcher 2 art style. Talk about bland.TheExorzist said:
From The Dust
Banned
apana said:
ShockingAlberto
Member
And when Link battles Ganon, Ganon will go "FUCK YOU, KNIFE EARS" and then Linkin Park will start playing and Link will cut himself to become a demon the size of Ganon and goTheExorzist said:
"NO, GANON. FUCK YOU."
It'd be like a dream come true!
JimmyRustler
Member
Well, that's a good question. ;-)Dascu said:
See, first of all: I really like mature storylines. OoT was great (really loved it), WW was not so great and TP.... well, I never saw the credits. I really think the series has to move forward and as it seems this will not happen with SS. Moving in a more realistic and mature direction would be one (of many possible) steps forward - IMO. You could include a love story between Link and Zelda and with that make it more emotional. I would really have some (IMO!) great ideas for a potential Zelda-story. I always thought that there is room to tell a really epic story in Zelda - LotR-epic-style I mean.
Oh, and I would throw out many things. Ganondorf would be one them. Seriously, how often do you want to fight him? Triforce as well. It just feels so aged. I can't believe so many people can enjoy the same thing over and over again. I would leave the dungeons be, make them more varied and not built-on exactly the same though. Ah, I have way to many ideas to explain them here. Hardly anyone would agree with me anyway. ;-)
Just a personal preference here. No one has to feel offended so please calm down.
From The Dust
Banned
Majora's Mask is as dark and "mature"as the series needs to be. lets not go overboard
AceBandage
Banned
TheExorzist said:
I hope you never get to direct a video game/movie/TV show/Youtube video...
JimmyRustler
Member
Funny you're refering to "copping of head". See, as far as I know Zelda trailers have often Conan - The Barbarian - music in the background. You know what happens at the end of Conan? ;-)From The Dust said:
See? It's logical Zelda has to move in this direction. ;-)
bzz... just kidding.
From The Dust
Banned
Link x Zelda? ok, now I'm offended. Link is to good for that bitch. Link x Malon or bust
ShockingAlberto
Member
I can understand the desire for a more mature storyline, but I don't have to sympathize with it.
I don't think the key to improving Zelda is to make it a different game and a lot of the "this game needs blood and a love story and a mature storyline" is born mostly of teenage fantasies of what a mature story means.
I don't think the key to improving Zelda is to make it a different game and a lot of the "this game needs blood and a love story and a mature storyline" is born mostly of teenage fantasies of what a mature story means.