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"He will not divide us", but Shia will. LeBeouf's drunken rant.

Stinkles

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Dumbass, but I don't know how the hell this is comparable to Gibson.


Yeah he's not even Kramer tier

He's sorta McCulkinesque or like Ethan Hawke-y.


Also racial and naive and weird and privilege-y but also not Kramer or Gibson level.
 

Polari

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Oh yeah, there's no shortage of pedo defenders in Hollywood.
 

Angry Grimace

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Is that racist? We're talking about the "arrest your own kind part" right? I guess the implication is he wouldn't be surprised if a cop arrested someone not his own kind, but I don't see how even that makes it racist.

Was there some other part i missed?

He also got racial, telling the black officer ... the President "doesn't give a fuck about you, and you wanna do what? Arrest white people?"

I mean, neither of them make any sense, the dude was just out of his mind.

Seems like he mistook white privilege with "never gets arrested"

I mean, I somewhat doubt that given that he has like 6 different arrests, all of which are alcohol related. That's not even covering the times he didn't get arrested, which is probably most of the time he was fucked up doing insane shit.
 

Toxi

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Is that racist? We're talking about the "arrest your own kind part" right? I guess the implication is he wouldn't be surprised if a cop arrested someone not his own kind, but I don't see how even that makes it racist.

Was there some other part i missed?
"You got a President who don't give a shit about you, and you're stuck in a police force that don't give a fuck about you, so you want to arrest what? White people who give a fuck, who ask for cigarettes. I came up to you trying to be nice you stupid bitch."

He expects a fucking medal.
 

Mechanized

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What was racist there, exactly? When I think "racist rant" there are a few choice words being slung around. I guess the OP has an agenda, as if that wasn't clear enough in his post.

Hope the dude gets some help.
 

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He also got racial, telling the black officer ... the President "doesn't give a fuck about you, and you wanna do what? Arrest white people?"

I mean, neither of them make any sense, the dude was just out of his mind.
I saw that quote as well. Doesn't put him in the best light, but being belligerent drunk never does. Still not seeing how that's particularly racist in itself.
 
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People saying this is Gibson level are off their domes

What was racist there, exactly? When I think "racist rant" there are a few choice words being slung around. I guess the OP has an agenda, as if that wasn't clear enough in his post.

Hope the dude gets some help.

OP's definitely one of those lol
 

Angry Grimace

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I saw that quote as well. Doesn't put him in the best light, but being belligerent drunk never does. Still not seeing how that's particularly racist in itself.

I mean, I agree, I don't consider it super racist, he mostly just said some stupid drunk belligerent shit. Dude needs to get help because he's obviously a full-on addict.

I feel more sorry for him than I think most people do. He's going out there and getting wasted because he's mentally and physically addicted to it.
 

Jagernaut

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TMZ doctored some of the quotes in the article, and pulled them out of context.

In one instance they accused him of being racist by saying - "He also got racial, telling the black officer ... the President "doesn't give a f**k about you, and you wanna do what? Arrest white people?""

From the body cam footage - full context:

"You got a President who don't give a shit about you, and you're stuck in a police force that don't give a fuck about you, so you want to arrest what? white people who give a fuck, who ask for cigarettes. I came up to you trying to be nice you stupid bitch."

So... I wouldn't call the rant racist. More like dumb drunken inchoate rage.

Gonna look at the other footage and see what I drag out.

Edit: In the second clip he's stating to the black cop:

"You put your own kind in the fucking pen for nothing."
"You put a white man in the pen for what, you fucking bitch? For asking a black man for a cigarette."

Ok... I see where those two lines are problematic. Certainly racist, but there are degrees to racism. It's still a far cry from Mel Gibson.

I'm not surprised that TMZ would hype this up. They are a Trump supporting outlet, and this is a good opportunity to get one for their man.

It's not like the police look good here in one of the videos, toying with the dude while he's obviously in pain.


I wouldn't trust TMZ about any Trump related story. Looks like they overhyped this.
 

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I don't like Shia, not even after his anti-trump demonstration. But calling this a racist rant and even comparing it to Mel Gibson's is a little bit of a stretch in my opinion.
 

Waddle Dee

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I wouldn't trust TMZ about any Trump related story. Looks like they overhyped this.

I wouldn't trust TMZ about much in general.

I don't know if I'd call Shia racist. Dumb, ignorant, and confused as fuck, but not racist. When he's not stumbling around like a buffoon, he seems to be genuinely trying to make a positive difference. Shame he's a few screws loose.
 

K.Jack

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How was this racist? It's not like he said, "Don't you have some niggers to go arrest bro?!"
 

Phased

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I mean it shows that Shia is kind of an idiot, and gets really stupid when he's drunk, but that wasn't really news. Not sure I buy the racist angle though.

The only way I could maybe see racist is if he was implying "shouldn't you be out there arresting black people instead of white people" with what he said, but I didn't really get that from his rant
 

akira28

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People saying this is Gibson level are off their domes



OP's definitely one of those lol

joms pops up on my gafdar for some reason. If i checked the database, I'm sure it'd pop right up.

edit: thinks bae is an acronym. trash opinions related to MGSV.
 

g11

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I dunno if I'd call that racist but it was sure as shit assholish. The fucking ego on this kid is unreal. Never understood the heat behind him either. Didn't seem like much of an actor to me.

The cops obviously weren't scared nor intimidated by Shia's "millionaire lawyers"...

Damn, that cop is pretty inked up. I dunno why, but I would have thought that was a no-no for cops.
 
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I dunno if I'd call that racist but it was sure as shit assholish. The fucking ego on this kid is unreal. Never understood the heat behind him either. Didn't seem like much of an actor to me.



Damn, that cop is pretty inked up. I dunno why, but I would have thought that was a no-no for cops.

There are working cops with tattoos confirmed to be white supremacist symbols. Shouldn't be a surprise all things considered.
 

K.Jack

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Damn, that cop is pretty inked up. I dunno why, but I would have thought that was a no-no for cops.

There are departments where visible tats aren't allowed at all. I had a close childhood friend get rejected once, because of his lower arm tats. He had to move to a state with much more lax rules.
 

Derwind

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You don't have to be racist 24/7 to say some racist ass shit, whether or not he needs to seek some help for his alcoholism is it's own discussion.

It may not be Mel Gibson shades of fucked up but racism doesn't have to be 150% blatant and/or obvious.

All that aside, I hope Shia can get the help he needs, dude is a mess.
 

Mahonay

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You don't have to be racist 24/7 to say some racist ass shit, whether or not he needs to seek some help for his alcoholism is it's own discussion.

It may not be Mel Gibson shades of fucked up but racism doesn't have to be 150% blatant and/or obvious.

All that aside, I hope Shia can get the help he needs, dude is a mess.
My thoughts exactly.

He pisses me off on a regular basis, but yeah, guy needs help.
 

Angry Grimace

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You don't have to be racist 24/7 to say some racist ass shit, whether or not he needs to seek some help for his alcoholism is it's own discussion.

It may not be Mel Gibson shades of fucked up but racism doesn't have to be 150% blatant and/or obvious.

All that aside, I hope Shia can get the help he needs, dude is a mess.

It doesn't seem like much of a discussion. He's got 5 alcohol-related arrests and already did a stint in rehab. He needs to go back for sure.
 

MaulerX

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Exactly.

I'm sure he's anti-trump but that sounded like something a Trump die hard would say.




Hating Trump doesn't exonerate a racist from being a racist. I honestly believe that they're a lot of closet racists that jump on the "I hate Trump!" bandwagon to sort of camouflage themselves.
 

mortal

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That white privilege at work. Meanwhile, people with darker skin complexion than him get blown away for breathing.

I wouldn't necessarily call his drunken tirade racist though.
 

joms5

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What was racist there, exactly? When I think "racist rant" there are a few choice words being slung around. I guess the OP has an agenda, as if that wasn't clear enough in his post.

Hope the dude gets some help.

And what agenda would that be? Seems that your knight in shining armour isn't all he was cracked up to be?

Anyone else see the similarity?



 

Velikost

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Kinda nuts how quickly people jump to label others nowadays. Shia's definitely troubled and this was some stupid shit to say, but he also has 2Pac, Lil' Kim Missy Elliot, and Biggie tattoo'd on him. Dunno about him being a racist...