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Headphone companies: no headphone jack, no problem
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NullPointer
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If the Audeze Cipher is any indication. the answer is yes.
Pretty much.
I dunno bruv, I think this will go over the bog standard troglodytes head as well.
Preach though!
Beer Monkey
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This is great for landfill operators, though.
yanipheonu
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The adapter or the use of the more universal bluetooth headphone is fine, if dumb. I still want the jack.
But the Lightning Headphones gross me out so much.
Apple Exclusive headphones that you won't be able to use outside of an Apple product. So disgusting.
Genuinely wonder if they'll get away with it. If anyone can it's apple of course, but I'm not even sure they can get away with replacing headphones entirely without an standard adapter.
But the Lightning Headphones gross me out so much.
Apple Exclusive headphones that you won't be able to use outside of an Apple product. So disgusting.
Genuinely wonder if they'll get away with it. If anyone can it's apple of course, but I'm not even sure they can get away with replacing headphones entirely without an standard adapter.
seriously? it's not like there won't be 5$ amazon essentials adapters in no time.
for those everyday earbuds, i'm quite sure that the battery within wireless earbuds is going to live longer than the cable of cheap wired headphones.
NullPointer
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This too. Make it cheap or make it last - modern tech trends seems to want to make it expensive and short lived.
ThatStupidLion
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i mean headhone companies aren't going to care...peole will just have to buy more of their products
the lightning headphones are a "convenience" for people who don't want to fuck with an adapter (at likely some sort of cost)
people keep saying "headphones headphones headphones headphones" but everything you look at points to this being about the jack, not headphones. the fact that
a) apple is literally giving away the adapter, and selling it new (if you lose it) for hardly a goldmine..
b) 1/8" phono headphones will CLEARLY outsell lightning headphones... forever... we know this. apple knows this. apple doesn't care.
it's clear they just wanted to remove the jack. that the headphone companies are potentially making money on this likely doesn't fit into any sort of plan for apple one way or another. I'm guessing it barely even makes a budge in their licensing income.
it was about getting rid of a legacy single use jack whose single use was duplicated mostly or in full in multiple different areas on the phone.
Doesn't matter at all unless you have fantastic equipment, good ears and really quiet conditions. And if you are in that 0.0001% of users you still can store your own music.
Do you mean lossless digital audio or something? Both Android and Apple's devices have supported audio over USB for a good while now.
See eg. http://blog.jdslabs.com/?p=838
Yeah. I'm mostly ambivalent to this, except that I already live in a house where I have to have USB-C, Lightning, and micro-USB cables sticking out of my PC to charge a bunch of random devices I have around. I'm sick of juggling twelve different cable types. I now know that at some point in the future I'll have my wife asking me to find that one pair of Apple headphones in that drawer of cords that will only work on her device. Either that or I'll be trying desperately to find her a pair of bluetooth headphones that are charged.
It'll be annoying. Its shitty. There's lots of good, well engineered, "it just works" futures here, but this probably isn't one of them.
Pyramid head
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And with much greater frequency because as fragile as earphone cords tend to be, it's nothing compared to how quickly cords connected to a phone with a rectangular fucking prong are going to break.
Yes. I can't fucking keep track as it is.
CreepingFear
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The problem is that there doesn't seem to be people in the middle. I can say that I really wanted to buy an iPhone this time around for the plus's camera and battery life, and that I recently bought the iPad pro, but if I mentioned that I will not buy the new iPhone because the removal of the headphone jack is a deal breaker, I am suddenly a luddite non-forwarding thinking Apple hater. Fanboyism at it's worst.
More revenue opportunities by selling AppleCare plans and charging for repairs/replacements.
For people claiming that headphone companies are happy because you have to buy new headphones, do you know that Apple is packing in a $9 adapter that lets you use your old headphones?
If you're a hardcore audiophile, you either have a separate music player or have external hardware that hooks to your phone through the lightning port anyway. If you're using wireless, you don't really care. If you want to use your old headphones, Apple packs in a $9 adapter that lets you do so.
The inconvenience factor is there but there's nothing stopping you from using your existing wired headphones if you want to. I mean, the manufacturers in the OP aren't really disputing this. Complaining about the manufacturer answers in the OP is like complaining that Hillary Clinton's recent interview with HONY was cold, calculated and dishonest. Outside of Jaybird, each of these manufacturers gave the answer I completely expected from them*. Because the removal of the headphone jack, but the inclusion of the 3.5mm adapter, doesn't obsolete everyone's existing headphones like everyone in this thread is going on about. As borghe noted, its all about the jack and not the headphone.
*Grado doesn't give a shit because they don't spend a single cent on R&D. Audio Technica straight up says you can use your choice of wired headphone. Sennheiser is clearly interested in integrating DSP into their headphones for sound quality reasons. AudioQuest is interested in a future where their Dragonfly portable DAC/amp is integrated inside the digital cable itself which is already where lower cost external amp/DAC solutions are going. The iPhone 7 is more or less the continuation of the status quo except for companies who seriously believe in the merits of DSP.
If you're a hardcore audiophile, you either have a separate music player or have external hardware that hooks to your phone through the lightning port anyway. If you're using wireless, you don't really care. If you want to use your old headphones, Apple packs in a $9 adapter that lets you do so.
The inconvenience factor is there but there's nothing stopping you from using your existing wired headphones if you want to. I mean, the manufacturers in the OP aren't really disputing this. Complaining about the manufacturer answers in the OP is like complaining that Hillary Clinton's recent interview with HONY was cold, calculated and dishonest. Outside of Jaybird, each of these manufacturers gave the answer I completely expected from them*. Because the removal of the headphone jack, but the inclusion of the 3.5mm adapter, doesn't obsolete everyone's existing headphones like everyone in this thread is going on about. As borghe noted, its all about the jack and not the headphone.
*Grado doesn't give a shit because they don't spend a single cent on R&D. Audio Technica straight up says you can use your choice of wired headphone. Sennheiser is clearly interested in integrating DSP into their headphones for sound quality reasons. AudioQuest is interested in a future where their Dragonfly portable DAC/amp is integrated inside the digital cable itself which is already where lower cost external amp/DAC solutions are going. The iPhone 7 is more or less the continuation of the status quo except for companies who seriously believe in the merits of DSP.
The Faceless Master
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there are.
Yeah, as someone who uses Bluetooth speakers to connect to my personal phone, work phone, PC, tablet, etc... for different uses connecting to new devices is a pain in the ass. Most of the time I just bypass this by connecting the Bluetooth speaker by 3.5mm jack. Wireless tech has a long way to go until it becomes intuitive and works with a variety of different devices easily and seamlessly.
SmackCrackleNPop
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The good news is there's extra motivation now to get wireless audio tech to become easier to connect with higher quality audio. May be rough to start but now we're on the path to get there. Probably not until Bluetooth 5?
WordAssassin
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Yeah like the original iPhone
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