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Healthy diet discussion

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
Liquid calories are generally a bad idea when you're trying to lose weight. It doesn't trigger satiety in the same way that solid food does, so if your willpower isn't solid steel you can easily end up adding it on top of regular meals when you planned on replacing meals with it.

Willpower is the real commodity you're managing with weight loss. That's why intermittent fasting is good for a lot of people. They get to fully top up once per day and ride that satiety out, timing it so that they go to sleep right around when they would be having the next substantial meal.

Gotta figure out what works for you though.
 

p_xavier

Authorized Fister
I was thinking about trying Slim Fast shakes. The concept is you drink one small shake (milk based) to replace one meal, and eat the rest of your meals the same as before.

I think a shake is total calories of around 500.

I'll give it a go one of these days. You can buy a big can of this shit from Walmart for like $20.
It's all chemicals though. Go with Vega brand which is made from real food. It's half the price on Amazon for a tub. I add water and heavy cream in mine.
 


 
A bag of frozen peas can make for a great daytime snack. Pour some in a small bowl and enjoy!


Green peas are amazing. Throw some extra virgin olive oil in a pan, heat em up, sprinkle some cayanne powder or whatever your favorite seasoning is on em. Drizzle zero calorie Siracha sauce on them. Soooo fucking good
 

EverydayBeast

thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
You have to be in control of your diet that’s a fact, keep sugars out of childrens grasp, diet is about progression, keeping pressure on yourself to make good choices.
 

DavidGzz

Member
You eat more fat so people think you burn more fat but you're not burning more stored fat, just dietary fat. At the end of the day, calories are what matter.

As for eating late, it doesn't matter. I actually sleep better if I eat late at night.
 

GeekyDad

Member
I think I need to chill out on the pistachios. For the past few weeks, I've been getting them when I'm gonna be off the next day, and eating half the bag (8 oz. total bag size) that day and the other half the bag the next day. So, I'm basically eating 4 oz. of pistachios four times a week. I don't know if that's a great thing... :messenger_smirking:
 

Papacheeks

Banned
I think I need to chill out on the pistachios. For the past few weeks, I've been getting them when I'm gonna be off the next day, and eating half the bag (8 oz. total bag size) that day and the other half the bag the next day. So, I'm basically eating 4 oz. of pistachios four times a week. I don't know if that's a great thing... :messenger_smirking:

If your crap starts to looks like peanut butter then panic. Lol
 

Kenpachii

Member
I was thinking about trying Slim Fast shakes. The concept is you drink one small shake (milk based) to replace one meal, and eat the rest of your meals the same as before.

I think a shake is total calories of around 500.

I'll give it a go one of these days. You can buy a big can of this shit from Walmart for like $20.

Just eat a piece of bread with cheese and move on with your day, u get the same if not better results as its less calories. Those slim fast shakes are useless as i am 100% sure they contain some form of sugar which basically is something u want to avoid at all costs, also drink water and get used to drink water only.
 
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Thaedolus

Gold Member
I'm giving intermittent fasting a shot starting today. I'm about 25 pounds from my goal weight. Already dropped about 35 since the last kid was born the beginning of last year...I usually have a decent breakfast with a couple eggs, cheese, some breakfast meat and a low carb wrap. But I think just cutting that out and eliminating any snacks after dinner would give me a decent 6/18 ratio.

I bet my brother in law $100 I could lose 25 before he can, starting today...but I'm starting at 220 and he's at 350, so I'm pretty sure he could take a big shit and win if I don't hit this hard.
 
About a year ago i started working out ...3 days out of the week...going to the gym for about 2 hours, 45 mins or so of lifting, 20-30 minutes of running. Cut all the heavy carbs ive lived off for 40 years ( italian). I wasnt really overweight but i had very very high tryglyceride count. Well after 4-5 months i cut the count in half and i kept going.

then about a month ago it hit me...a week long bout of anemia after coming back from the gym....then it went away i went back...week or so later...anemia again.....or tiredness fatigue. Then i stopped going to the gym and it came back anyway and now just kinda persists. Its terrifying really but my doctor is 86 and is awful and i move to japan in about 8 days so no time to go get tests.

It should be noted that ive been a vegetarian for 30+ years, though i never had problems with iron. It should also be noted that i have g6pd which means i naturally can become anemic if i eat the wrong things ( i had no triggers though before this started) . I Had full blood work during the summer and i checked out a ok in everything, except tryglycerides. However i did learn last year that i technically was not supposed to eat any types of legumes, not soy not beans not lentils....and even though i ate them my entire life with no hitch...i stopped early last year.

I was also eating really lightly , lighter then i realized the last few months....i mean i usually have a sandwhich and a side dish for dinner or something similar. I may have burned through my Iron reserves, i heard iron can be stored for up to two years. The last two days i tried to eat a bit heavier but im used to eating lighter now. I honestly dont even know if it is anemia, im not pale or jaundice or anything...everyone says i look really healthy.

Anyway im just guessing here, being a hyperchondriac and feeling this way is no fun....its why im always afraid to go to urgent care....basically the worst things are on my mind right now. Ive had everything in teh world prevent me from moving out of this shithole ( was supposed to leave 3 years ago) and now this is i feel is gonna keep me from leaving.
 

GeekyDad

Member
Okay, so some folks have weighed in about the benefits/possible inaccuracies regarding organic foods. But...

How about grass-fed/non-GMO/artificial-hormone cows, with particular regards to yogurt? Valuable differences, or negligible?
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
Okay, so some folks have weighed in about the benefits/possible inaccuracies regarding organic foods. But...

How about grass-fed/non-GMO/artificial-hormone cows, with particular regards to yogurt? Valuable differences, or negligible?
Grass-fed results in better ratios of omega-3 fatty acids in the animal products. Beneficial.

GMO vs non-GMO doesn't matter for consumption.

Artificially boosted hormone levels in cows results in higher estrogen levels in milk, which may be harmful.
 

jufonuk

not tag worthy
Stavros is unlockable ?

(Very old sketch of a kebab shop owner from U.K. comedian Harry Enfield. I’m sure it’s aged like early 3D games but what ever)
 

manfestival

Member
Okay, so some folks have weighed in about the benefits/possible inaccuracies regarding organic foods. But...

How about grass-fed/non-GMO/artificial-hormone cows, with particular regards to yogurt? Valuable differences, or negligible?
Another thing to consider is that grass fed vs other in almost all cases will have more nutrients that your body can use over time. When it comes to yogurts you just have to avoid certain terms that may conflict. Like if they pasteurize the food. They may be effectively cooking out the benefit of the food you are eating. I don't eat yogurts(not my thing) but I recall watching videos on foods and one of the things I believe they talk about more with those is the gut biome benefits of certain yogurts over others.
 

GeekyDad

Member
Another thing to consider is that grass fed vs other in almost all cases will have more nutrients that your body can use over time. When it comes to yogurts you just have to avoid certain terms that may conflict. Like if they pasteurize the food. They may be effectively cooking out the benefit of the food you are eating. I don't eat yogurts(not my thing) but I recall watching videos on foods and one of the things I believe they talk about more with those is the gut biome benefits of certain yogurts over others.
I'm wondering, though...

Though most yogurts may use pasteurized milk, most yogurts aren't re-pasteurized after the bacteria that creates the yogurts are introduced to the milk. So, in that regard, I can't really see much loss as it pertains to the digestive benefits of yogurt.
 

GeekyDad

Member
I know a lot of folks weighed in on the idea that "organic" simply has no true benefit. So, I couldn't remember and looked it up, products cannot be labeled organic if they are GMO. Setting aside meat, which I don't eat much of, that's a pretty significant benefit in my mind, as it's fairly obvious fruits (especially) and veggies have been tinkered with in order to make them sweeter, more palatable, easier to grow in mass quantity, etc.
 
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HoodWinked

Member
the main issue with GMOs is that they've been programmed to be resistant to glyphosate.

the benefit of organic is that only certain types of pesticides are allowed. but some foods don't really need it. Things like onions, avocados, sweet corn, cabbages, mushrooms, melons don't matter.

but most thin skin fruits like strawberries, apples, grapes have high levels of pesticides. also more delicate greens like spinach and kale.
 

GeekyDad

Member
the main issue with GMOs is that they've been programmed to be resistant to glyphosate.

the benefit of organic is that only certain types of pesticides are allowed. but some foods don't really need it. Things like onions, avocados, sweet corn, cabbages, mushrooms, melons don't matter.

but most thin skin fruits like strawberries, apples, grapes have high levels of pesticides. also more delicate greens like spinach and kale.
Huh...?

Wouldn't that be a good thing?

But the point being, is that I think tinkering with nature in that way (GMO), it seems like it's a shock to the system of nature, and in turn, a shock to our bodies. And it's got to have something to do with why we're seeing many so-called experts suggesting that fruit is somehow bad for you. If growers are manipulating it so that it has a much higher sugar content with smaller seeds, etc., I could see why they'd feel that way.
 

Bitmap Frogs

Mr. Community
Green peas are amazing. Throw some extra virgin olive oil in a pan, heat em up, sprinkle some cayanne powder or whatever your favorite seasoning is on em. Drizzle zero calorie Siracha sauce on them. Soooo fucking good

What you do with peas is saute them in a pan with olive oil and small bits of spanish ham, then lower the heat and add in some cooking aromating wine. After the wine reduces the peas will carry all those incredible flavors.

Not very healthy dietous anyways.

I'm currently in the process of losing weight, 7kg so far.
 
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