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High End Graphics for Nintendo's hardware is inevitable...Eventually.
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Mister Wolf
Member
Yeah. Only now they most likely won't use Nvidia's best and newest Tegra Atlan. All signs point to them using Tegra Orin.
Woopah
Member
I do believe that is mostly like is the product in the Nvidia leaks is coming in the next 18 months. Atlan isn't used in any available products yet right?
Tams
Member
Speculation, but I'm pretty sure Nintendo's partnership with Nvidia is something like this:
Nintendo: We need a relatively powerful, but energy efficient SoC that's cheap.
Nvidia: What do we do with Tegra?! No one wants it and we had to recall our tablet.
Nintendo: Oh, that's a nice SoC you have there? But... no one seems to want it... Tell you what, we'll buy millions of them, but your usually prices are... not great
(Desperate) Nvidia SoC team: Well, I guess we could and the sales numbers would make Jensen happy...
Nintendo: Good! Can you make some alterations?
Nvidia: You're not paying much for these, but we could do a few changes to the clock speeds.
Nintendo: Sounds good.
So no. I don't expect anything particularly custom from Nvidia for Nintendo. If anything, now that Nintendo have gone all in on Arm, that they will shop around for a SoC provider, just as they used to for their handhelds.
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Tams
Member
The Gamecube didn't sell well. It was as damaging as the Wii U, but it didn't do Nintendo much good.
In Europe at least, after a couple of years they were bargain basketing them.
Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
The less high end the graphics were, the higher the sales, almost always. There's a reason for that. I understand it, but even if I say it out loud here, people will never get it. So it's a waste of energy. You're welcome to keep at it, must be fun for you. It isn't for me.
StateofMajora
Banned
A 3050 tier switch 2 would be incredible, I don't know what you're on about mate.
Nobody should be bitching about graphics on anything these days except for the current switch and series s.
Nintendo is going to make INCREDIBLE looking games on their next hardware but a bunch of idiots are still going to balk.
lughnasadh123
Member
Anyone hoping for parity with other systems might as well wait till streaming really takes off for everyone.
daveonezero
Banned
you will never reach a point where steaming is better than a local machine.
Just like WiFi will never be as fast as a Physical cable.
StateofMajora
Banned
People constantly complaining about graphics these days is like someone winning millions on a game show but all they do is bitch about the taxes.
I get it, switch is underpowered for sure, but some games are still really good looking like Luigi 3 or Mario Odyssey. If its successor can produce better graphics than last
gen consoles + dlss, then there is NOTHING to complain about. Image quality is my main gripe on current switch.
I get it, switch is underpowered for sure, but some games are still really good looking like Luigi 3 or Mario Odyssey. If its successor can produce better graphics than last
gen consoles + dlss, then there is NOTHING to complain about. Image quality is my main gripe on current switch.
MacReady13
Member
My point is, it wasn't the fact it was powerful that it failed but Nintendo seem to believe that is the case hence not competing with Sony/Microsoft anymore in terms of power. Which is a shame.
lughnasadh123
Member
I'm just saying getting any kind of graphical parity is going to be from Nintendo streaming.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Yeah but we will reach a point where everyday objects contain more than enough performance to play anything. Maybe even everything around you working together.
That’s more or less the point the op is getting at.. I think.
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ManaByte
Gold Member
They don’t have to. They own the Japanese gaming industry at this point.
SeraphJan
Member
Before Wii Nintendo was always the power house when it comes to hardware spec, GC > PS2, N64 > PS1, SFC > MD etc.
It was after Wii they started their gimmick ways as well as start building their new fanbase, and these new fanbase plus their huge fanbase from the handheld market inevitably lead to the success of Switch. But in order to continue to compete, they would have to keep up with their hardware, expect newer iteration utilizing DLSS to be the key point, they might not be as powerful as PS5 or XSX, but they will still be able to compete with enhanced perceivable graphic and more affordable price point.
It was after Wii they started their gimmick ways as well as start building their new fanbase, and these new fanbase plus their huge fanbase from the handheld market inevitably lead to the success of Switch. But in order to continue to compete, they would have to keep up with their hardware, expect newer iteration utilizing DLSS to be the key point, they might not be as powerful as PS5 or XSX, but they will still be able to compete with enhanced perceivable graphic and more affordable price point.
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daveonezero
Banned
The critique lives in a reality where no other consoles exist yet they know Nintendo isn’t the most powerful.
ByWatterson
Member
Sure?
But I've lost interest. During the GameCube days they were apace. During the Wii/U days they were a gen behind. Now they're two. Just don't care anymore.
But I've lost interest. During the GameCube days they were apace. During the Wii/U days they were a gen behind. Now they're two. Just don't care anymore.
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Gifmaker
Member
Had you people bought more gamecubes, we wouldn't be in this situation today.
Seriously. Some need to realize that the only thing, literally only thing that Nintendo can gain by throwing their hat in the ring of graphics power again, is to re-enter the direct competition with Sony and Microsoft for the most powerful console - and that is historically a battle they will lose. Their entire development and design philosophy is so much not focused on graphics power that they simply cannot beat MS and Sony on their turf. So why should they risk doing so when people will only end up buying Playstations and PCs and Xboxes over their consoles anyway?
No, they are standing their ground, and doing so very successfully. They have little reason to change anything. Also, when the Switch came out, it was far from unimpressive. Keep in mind we are talking about a little tablet here, not a big ugly box with 10 times the power consumption.
Seriously. Some need to realize that the only thing, literally only thing that Nintendo can gain by throwing their hat in the ring of graphics power again, is to re-enter the direct competition with Sony and Microsoft for the most powerful console - and that is historically a battle they will lose. Their entire development and design philosophy is so much not focused on graphics power that they simply cannot beat MS and Sony on their turf. So why should they risk doing so when people will only end up buying Playstations and PCs and Xboxes over their consoles anyway?
No, they are standing their ground, and doing so very successfully. They have little reason to change anything. Also, when the Switch came out, it was far from unimpressive. Keep in mind we are talking about a little tablet here, not a big ugly box with 10 times the power consumption.
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Rocco Schiavone
Member
I stopped buying Nintendo consoles after the Gamecube. You must be a complete dreamer to think that Nintendo will ever release high end console again.
They will alwaye be a gen behind because they have a different business philosophy.(Earn profits with outdated hardware
)
They will alwaye be a gen behind because they have a different business philosophy.(Earn profits with outdated hardware
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jufonuk
not tag worthy
Nintendo's budget wouldn't allow for an M1. They put together their machines with paper mache and their cpu+gpu's from the Palaeolithic period.
Swift_Star
Banned
Lazy and cheap is a stretch.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Nintendo cares deeply about gameplay developments.
Victor Omega
Member
you might be right
Physiognomonics
Member
For them using some years old Nvidia hardware for their tablet is already high-end. Do not expect more than this.
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CityHunter1981
Member
The thread title is complete nonsense.
A handheld will never have high end graphics (at least not at a reasonable price range). I mean look at the steam deck, much more powerful, but nowhere even close where you could call it high end.
Sure the switch will get a version with better graphics, but not high end.
And if you think Nintendo would go back and make a classic home console, you are dreaming. The mobile market is just so big, that they never want to go back.
A handheld will never have high end graphics (at least not at a reasonable price range). I mean look at the steam deck, much more powerful, but nowhere even close where you could call it high end.
Sure the switch will get a version with better graphics, but not high end.
And if you think Nintendo would go back and make a classic home console, you are dreaming. The mobile market is just so big, that they never want to go back.
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Mephisto40
Member
Considering "High End" changes on a month by month basis, where newer games push the limits of current hardware, Nintendo consoles are never going to be able to keep up, they will always be a generation behind in terms of graphical power as long as they carry on with this handheld obsession