DoctaThompson
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Some day you'll meet the man of your dreams, ok and? What does this have to do with HZD coming to pc? Salty over Sony's decision to support the best open platform and hardware?
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Horizon: Zero Dawn confirmed for PC
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You just can't, it's a fairytale world you're living in.
Endless Fluff
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Please point to where I’m saying or even implying that he’s talking about all games?
DoctaThompson
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Let me hurt your feelings just a tad bit more, Ray Tracing, everything maxed out with DLSS. Look at this sweet locked FPS
Let me hurt your feelings just a tad bit more, Ray Tracing, everything maxed out with DLSS. Look at this sweet locked FPS
You are hilarious. I guess you are just 12y/o otherwise it's pretty bad.
DoctaThompson
Banned
So now you are butt hurt...You are hilarious. I guess you are just 12y/o otherwise it's pretty bad.
Debunked your claims, every time, so now you and the other butthurt clown
devilNprada
start throwing insults. What a sad way to live.
kingbean
Member
You are hilarious. I guess you are just 12y/o otherwise it's pretty bad.
I've never just plain out insulted anyone on this forum, but jesus christ you're an insufferable cunt.
Everything you've said in this thread is stupid.
I hope you're a troll and not really as dense as you seem.
You don't know how fps is measured. You have no clue what frametimes are and how to properly define frame rates. Yet you come into every grownup discussion and think you "debunked" anything.
Next thing: you're using SLI cards to "outperform" consoles in still frames.
I hope it's not SLI though. Would be too stupid.
DoctaThompson
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You asked to see my frames, then you want benchmarks and now you want frame times. What do I have to prove to a console warrior? You already know what gpu I have. Go look up benchmarks to calm your constant whining if you want to know so bad.You don't know how fps is measured. You have no clue what frametimes are and how to properly define frame rates. Yet you come into every grownup discussion and think you "debunked" anything.
Next thing: you're using SLI cards to "outperform" consoles in still frames.
I hope it's not SLI though. Would be too stupid.
My first message regarding that fairytale unicorn situation was explicitly about frametime graph. Not how much average fps is shown in the gui.
Why so serious?
I just don't get why mustard boys want to show off so hard. Knowing that I'm a fellow mustard boy myself. Just not succumbed to the reality distortion field that much.
kingbean
Member
You seem to be purposefully ignoring readily available information about PC performance.
Then antagonizing someone because you refuse to believe that high powered PCs can deliver better and more stable performance than a console.
I just don't get it.
DoctaThompson
Banned
If you want to know my frametimes, why not just do the simple math. Each screen shot has my current FPS, not average. You can divide by that number and easily figure out the frame times.... Or do you not know how to do that either....?
No body is showing off. You and a couple of others are doubting everything and making baseless claims, so proof was provided. Don't get into an argument or debate with someone, if you know you are going to loose, or if you have no clue on what you are talking about.
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Red Dead Redemption 2 PC performance analysis: easily hit 60fps with your graphics card
Saddle up your best horse because it's going to be a bumpy ride
www.pcgamesn.com
That's the real world benchmark.
Again: in real world no single die GPU can get to even rock solid 4k@60 on Ultra in this game.
It can deliver better performance, sometimes even 60 fps.
All the over 60 fantasies are fairytales.
kingbean
Member
Here we can see that 2080Ti in 4K in high/med settings barely gets to over 60 fps in the 99 percentile.Red Dead Redemption 2 PC performance analysis: easily hit 60fps with your graphics card
Saddle up your best horse because it's going to be a bumpy ride
That's the real world benchmark.
Again: in real world no single die GPU can get to even rock solid 4k@60 on Ultra in this game.
It can deliver better performance, sometimes even 60 fps.
All the over 60 fantasies are fairytales.
Yeah, games never run over 60fps on pc.
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Jad-Just_A_Dale
Neo Member
This has made me very happy. I won't even wait for a sale, I'm jumping on the release Day 1.
Gamerguy84
Member
I cant wait to see what kind of numbers it does on PC.
Its a fantastic game. Ive played it to death and cant wait to hear PC reactions.
But I really cant wait for HZD2. Obviously GG has been working hard on it for a while.
Its a fantastic game. Ive played it to death and cant wait to hear PC reactions.
But I really cant wait for HZD2. Obviously GG has been working hard on it for a while.
kingbean
Member
So the only game you believe that doesn't benefit from being on PC is RDR2?
I've seen you in this thread saying that greater than 60fps isn't noticeable. That's what I find to be so mind bogging stupid.
You said it yourself that over 60fps is a fairytale even though there are videos of games running console games at over 60fps.
I posted a video of Doom 2016 running over 100fps at 4k and the ps4pro only runs at 1440p. I'm pretty damn sure an RTX2080Ti will be pegging 200fps at 1440p.
Control on my GTX1080ti runs at 60fps at 1440p max settings no RTX. If I put it down to PS4 settings at 1080p I can get 90fps with a few settings on medium.
I've never said that.
Fairytale is RDR2 running on 100fps in 4K.
That' was the claim and I still got no proof that's it's not.
Yep. Because I think that most of the people who claim they see the difference cannot even see a difference between 100fps on fps counter and actual 60-65fps they are getting.
I also claim that people in general are more tolerant to longer frametimes if they are not fluctuating.
I.e. "90% 30fps 99% 29fps" feels much "smoother" than "90% 60fps 99% 45fps". Although in absolute frametime numbers the second one is much better.
Fairytale is getting 100fps in RDR2, that's what started all of this.
Unless I see 99% percentile video proves nothing.
That was my problem with Witcher 3: I see a locked 60 fps in UI, but I do feel that it's not. After measuring I've got 95% 51fps, which explained why it was so stuttery.
On my Titan Xp it feels pretty stuttery at 1440p. Can probably measure it later.
kingbean
Member
Okay. I don't care anymore because you've clearly got a chip on your shoulder.
Also what self respecting pc gamer with high end hardware wouldn't use VRR tech. So your problem with frame times hardly matter.
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I don't. I'm not even in the "you cannot prove me wrong" mode.
A lot of times people actually showed me things that I had misconceptions about. And even mustard boys are not stupid, at least some of them.
But so far in this thread it was kind of meh. No good arguments.
DoctaThompson
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Who ever mentioned rdr2 in 4k? Lol he's lost
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wintersouls
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PS4 Exclusives
Discover the jaw-dropping range of games featuring iconic characters, stunning worlds and unforgettable action – exclusive to PS4.web.archive.org
Only on playstation has been put on other times when the exclusivity is temporary. To later remove it. See this
Repeat.
Quote me a single official statement from Sony or a CEO stating that the game will be exclusive to PS4 and will never be released on another platform.
Jad-Just_A_Dale
Neo Member
1440p Doom on RTX2080ti is probably shooting well over 200fps. I got a Vega 56 with a Ryzen 1600, I'm hitting up to 142 fps at times with the vulkan renderer at 2560x1440 on Ultra.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Stolen from Reee. Dev confirms PC ultra wide monitor support.
Anne [developer] 11 Mar @ 1:44am
We will support ultra-wide! As others in this thread already pointed out, the first screenshot on the Store Page is taken from the PC port.
steamcommunity.com
Anne [developer] 11 Mar @ 1:44am
We will support ultra-wide! As others in this thread already pointed out, the first screenshot on the Store Page is taken from the PC port.
Ultrawide Support .. :: Horizon Zero Dawn™ Complete Edition General Discussions
Now that they confirmed this game for steam. Do you think that it will support Ultrawide monitors like Death Stranding since they're running the same engine? I really hope so.
StreetsofBeige
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VFXVeteran
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wintersouls
Member
Maybe you should read me again when I tell you that if the studio is not a first party, many times we have put the only Playstation logo and then they launch it on the PC because the exclusivity is temporary. And I took the opportunity to put the only Playstation logo for those months of exclusivity where you can really only play them on PlayStation.
It was never officially said that Death Strading would never come out on PC. As I said, it was not established at the table when Kojima negotiated the deals for the game with Sony.
It has happened more times as I quote above with Nioh. It is very easy to understand. As a saying that we have in my country says, there is no more blind than the one who does not want to see.
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majestix1988
Member
For easy understanding, Some genius or gamers that is more open for this issue pc is not a video gaming console but a different gaming device thus technically the game that announced to have pc version we talking about is still exclusive for playstation(for better term: console exclusive this word is used alot by Sony on some games that have pc release but still exclusive on their side) if you release this game on Xbox console or switch then the game itself will become multiplatform)
its just we on age of information, meme,elitism or fanboyism with simple minded creatures that judge easily those decisions of game developers that leads for them for um idiotic responses or any dumb reason + adding so called "gaming journalist"(making believe it's starting sony's downfall, no exclusives on Sony or such other things)
me, ROFL reading this thread like comics regards
its just we on age of information, meme,elitism or fanboyism with simple minded creatures that judge easily those decisions of game developers that leads for them for um idiotic responses or any dumb reason + adding so called "gaming journalist"(making believe it's starting sony's downfall, no exclusives on Sony or such other things)
me, ROFL reading this thread like comics regards
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Senua
Member
Cool bro.
Armorian
Banned
Stolen from Reee. Dev confirms PC ultra wide monitor support.
Anne [developer] 11 Mar @ 1:44am
We will support ultra-wide! As others in this thread already pointed out, the first screenshot on the Store Page is taken from the PC port.
Ultrawide Support .. :: Horizon Zero Dawn™ Complete Edition General Discussions
Now that they confirmed this game for steam. Do you think that it will support Ultrawide monitors like Death Stranding since they're running the same engine? I really hope so.
Great, I wonder how it will run.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
jackets with pockets
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Senua
Member
I really regret not going 21:9 sometimes
I really regret not going 21:9 sometimes
I think hdr is a much better investment. At least for this game...
Armorian
Banned
I hope they allow for higher draw distance for shadows, it was the weakest aspect of HZD graphics.
UW gives you bigger FOV (=improves gameplay), HDR just wider diiference between brightest and darkest parts of the picture and no one is saying you can't have both
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You can't do it. It will bring any hw to the knees. Better idea is to implement aabb shadow occluders for landscape. Was used in Crysis 1 and other open games. It kind of bakes remote shadows into landscape itself.
Psykodad
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HDR always is a better investment.
Blond
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Here we can see that 2080Ti in 4K in high/med settings barely gets to over 60 fps in the 99 percentile.Red Dead Redemption 2 PC performance analysis: easily hit 60fps with your graphics card
Saddle up your best horse because it's going to be a bumpy ride
That's the real world benchmark.
Again: in real world no single die GPU can get to even rock solid 4k@60 on Ultra in this game.
It can deliver better performance, sometimes even 60 fps.
All the over 60 fantasies are fairytales.
Even at all medium they could increase FPS and still look better than the X1X so what point are you trying to make here? lol
When Sony doubled down on exclusives when the PS3 tarnished the Playstation brand their fanboys picked up the slack for them and became free marketing tools. Shit, I wish Sony paid me to have console wars on the internet it would be the easiest job of all time.
>deny everything
>argue that all exclusives, regardless of quality, are better than any other console even if appears to not have "taste" to match the audience of PC, Xbox and Switch.
>when people say something like Death Stranding isn't their kind of game, say that they're mad they can't play it even though they more than likely didn't play it themselves even though it flopped so bad sony is afraid to release numbers even when Days Gones numbers are well known
>GOD OF WAR GOT 10'S EVERYWHERE
>Shit controller with even worse battery life? doesn't matter, I can use that touchpad in WITCHA TREE!
Shit I love my PS4 pro, for 6 months I loved the improvements so much I didn't play my PC but I ended up going back because I liked certain options that were available and games like Two Point hospital are a joke to play on console and stuff like Pathfinder and Divinity, even if it does get ported over, plays like dogshit with a controller.
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My point is that PCs are not that better.
You can get 2x in either details or fps or resolution. But not all at once like a lot of poor mustard boys say.
PC advantage is pretty marginal at this point. And will become even less pronounced in next gen.
HE1NZ
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I'm surprised they're releasing this on Steam and not the Sony Store of some kind. I assumed they'll bring Playstation as a service to PC, not just sell games on a competing platform (Steam is a competing platform, even if you count PC as not). Maybe they're just dipping their toes for now though.
Armorian
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They should at least add option for that, even if current gpus can't handle it future ones will. Draw distance for shadows was absymal in this game on PS4 and I think making it decent enough won't be that taxing.
Other than that HZD is IMO the best looking console game right now (GOW is up there but has more weaker apects like shit cubic reflections) so GG have a winner engine in their hands, I'm really curious how well (or not) it performs on PC and if it's optimized to Nv hardware or just straight GCN port.
Blond
Banned
Anecdotal
You can get higher FPS, Details and resolution, you just need the hardware to do it. If that weren't the case would the PS4P and X1X wouldn't be worth their asking price would they?
You can get a decent rig to play at X1 settings and get double the framerate, not to mention that game is an unoptimized POS that barely looks better than GTA 5 maxed out but needs more horsepower to run. Not to mention some graphical features DF mentioned are so low they can't even make the PC version look that bad near the end of the video LOL.
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You cannot optimize for NV. Their compiler is closed, their arch is closed and nda, their drivers are a giant blob of hacks for every game in existence.
The only party that ever optimizes for NV is NV itself.
I.e. of something runs bad on NV it's only NVs own fault.
Senua
Member
I think this ticks all boxes, though I am happy with my Predator XB271HU for now!
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B075JGKX59/
I'm not going to sit through another garbage video by DF.
What's your point?
Obviously you can get hw to play rdr2 with better fps and resolution.
But on current top hw the difference is not that big.
Blond
Banned
So only consoles are the ones to push graphics forward? Lel.
crysis?