killatopak
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Horizon Zero Dawn had loot boxes and nobody cared
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Sure it is.
You are about 99 posts too late
BoxManLocke
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He never planned to come back. He's just observing
Please elaborate on this
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
AC's history of MTs are the reason why people are not giving it the benefit of the doubt. We know Horizon doesn't contain MTs so the comparison is ridiculous.
I think that's exactly what the OP wanted to express
In short i created this thread to see how people will react and most of you did as i thought you will.
First and foremost Assassin's Creed had MT since AC3 and you couldn't buy main in-game currency with money ever. So far as we can see Heka Chest in AC Origins is purchasable only with main-in game currency.
And main issue i had with thread that inspired me to create this one is that majority of users treated info presented there as absolute truth and jumped to conclusion.
Now if on game release we see that you can buy main in-game currency or loot boxes i will be first one to say "f-you Ubisoft". But until then can we please stop jumping to conclusion and debate about non issue things here on GAF?
P.S. Mods i am sorry if i caused any trouble with this thread and if i deserved ban me but i just wanted to point out how misleading info can be.
First and foremost Assassin's Creed had MT since AC3 and you couldn't buy main in-game currency with money ever. So far as we can see Heka Chest in AC Origins is purchasable only with main-in game currency.
And main issue i had with thread that inspired me to create this one is that majority of users treated info presented there as absolute truth and jumped to conclusion.
Now if on game release we see that you can buy main in-game currency or loot boxes i will be first one to say "f-you Ubisoft". But until then can we please stop jumping to conclusion and debate about non issue things here on GAF?
P.S. Mods i am sorry if i caused any trouble with this thread and if i deserved ban me but i just wanted to point out how misleading info can be.
Bitch Pudding
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Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug...
Jawbreaker
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Except there's precedent for microtransactions in Assassin's Creed games, so it's not an unfounded worry. It's a fact that Horizon Zero Dawn doesn't have any.
MatrixMan.EXE
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No they're not. They're proving him wrong...because...Horizon didn't have loot boxes. Did you read the thread?
Markitron
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Yea I'm not buying that for a second. Nice try.
This is a reaction thread to the one about loot boxes in AC: Origins.
In the other thread half the posters are some variation of "Fuck loot boxes, I'm not buying the game".
In this thread half the posts are about how the loot boxes in Horizon aren't real loot boxes.
The point the OP is making is that despite the fact that the loot box systems in both games are basically the same, tons of people are attacking AC whereas tons of people are defending Horizon.
Did you read the very post in the thread? Ie: the OP?
dripdripsplash
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so woke
gustave154
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I wonder who will be so gullible to fall for this lol
With regards to the first bolded:
There doesn't need to be an extra "premium currency" for this to be shady - we do not know yet how the generation of said currency throughout regular gameplay relates to the prices of these boxes.
Like, check the Shadow of War story, the chests needed for the 'true ending' can be bought with ingame currency, but that's supposedly an incredibly tedious grind and an obvious attempt to get peope to just spend a few extra bucks.
With regards to the second:
I think pre-release is pretty much the best time to voice ones disagreement, because Ubisoft could still change the balance / pricing of these boxes / the currency.
There have been events where pre-release critique ("outrage") has changed a game for the better. I don't think the "let's just wait and see" ever has.
Scrooge McDuck
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Assassin's Creed: Origins doesn't currently have loot boxes either, yet we have a thread called "Assassin's Creed Origins has loot boxes" where people get all indignant without reading the thread.
So... that's kinda OP's point.
GribbleGrunger
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Why are you lying?
GraveRobberX
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Wait are we an experiment to you?
You as the OP went hey my game is the same as that other game, please give it the same benefit of doubt
One, 2 different devs/pubs ideologies
One game released, no MTs
One game not released, no MTs yet, but by the pedigree of said publisher, MTs are coming
You could never buy ingame money with microtransactions in AC games. Can we please stop jumping the gun and shout "I will boycott this game now!" til this is clear?
Markitron
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We do not know this and AC has had MTs for years.
Chairmanchuck
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Ubisoft still had stuff like Helix Credits with which you can buy collectible maps and those Helix credits were really hard to come by just by playing it so you either buy the currency or you just check out a collectible map/guide on the internet.
tiebreaker
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FIFA has it and people love it.
texhnolyze
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If you read that other thread, AC Origins' loot box currently is exactly the same as Horizon. They can only be bought with in-game money.
However,the OP and everyone made an assumption that they'll be changed to real money at release.
As many have already said, Horizon didn't have any kind of MTs.
People are concerned about AC because the series had MTs in the past and they could add them some weeks after launch, when the game has been reviewed and launch sales are made.
Also, someone doing something wrong don't validate the following attempt.
People are concerned about AC because the series had MTs in the past and they could add them some weeks after launch, when the game has been reviewed and launch sales are made.
Also, someone doing something wrong don't validate the following attempt.
Based on all the info we have, they're the same.
Which part of one game has history of micro transaction and other does not are you and OP missing here?
You could buy Helix points in Unity which allowed you to buy the exact same things normal ingame money would.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
You are also assuming that they won't charge real money for them, giving the history of AC, it's not a safe assumption.
Based on all the info we have, they are incredibly likely. I'll gladly eat crow if AC:O doesn't have them, but I won't make room in my stomach just yet.
Tbh I'm sick of the whole 'it didn't bother you in this game, so it shouldn't bother you now' argument. It doesn't matter when people started to get bothered by this, we are bothered now and want it to stop.
BoxManLocke
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This won't stop anything and your little "experiment" at the expense of everyone else mostly makes you look like a douche.
You're ignoring context about other games and Ubisoft's history with MTs.
DustyVonEric
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What's up with the "gotcha!" threads / posts lately?
They never work out, and is almost as embarrassing as dude having a meltdown claiming everyone else is "triggered".
They never work out, and is almost as embarrassing as dude having a meltdown claiming everyone else is "triggered".
Handy Fake
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BigEmil
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Lol sure it was it just backfired hard on you now your just making up some shit to protect yourself from the backlash
texhnolyze
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I only think that 'guilty until proven innocent' is not a good way to support the argument.
MatrixMan.EXE
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This only works if the same people in that other thread who raged are the same people in this thread defending Horizon. That's not the case so it's a fundamentaly flawed "test". Nevermind the fact that if AC Origins has actual microtransactions, which Horizon doesn't, then the argument is void anyway.
Doctor_Thomas
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I don't understand.
Assassin's Creed has, in the past, had in-game currency, the new game has loot boxes.
Why is this such a hard stretch to imagine lootboxes costing money? Why wait until it's out? Why not call them on it now to make sure it never happens?
And yes, Horizon had loot boxes, but there was no premium currency and no way to buy them, they were in-game rewards that usually contained resources in the same quantities you could get from killing things.
Assassin's Creed has, in the past, had in-game currency, the new game has loot boxes.
Why is this such a hard stretch to imagine lootboxes costing money? Why wait until it's out? Why not call them on it now to make sure it never happens?
And yes, Horizon had loot boxes, but there was no premium currency and no way to buy them, they were in-game rewards that usually contained resources in the same quantities you could get from killing things.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
This isn't a gotcha thread, it's a backfire thread where the OP is trying to twist the narrative.
Fair enough, but this isn't that. This is 'guilty until proven innocent' where the defendant has multiple previous convictions.
Danjin44
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Look im one of few people here that didn't like Horizon at all so I'm not exactly here to defend Horizon but those mystery boxes doesn't seem like loot box to me. All you find in so called loot boxes is crafting items can find on fields or even bought on shops, you can even buy heart of the machines in different shop.
FallenGrace
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So Op either created a daft thread or is back-pedalling hard and it included a guy making a daft comment that either wasn't funny or is back-pedalling.
This is hilarious how awful this whole thread is.
I never saw the AC thread people are referencing but in regards to Horizon I found the loot boxes utterly pointless to be honest but at least they weren't trying to drain cash out of people. They have tried it before in AC (Edit: MT I mean) and though I never spent a penny I found it invasive. We shall see for Origins I guess.
This is hilarious how awful this whole thread is.
I never saw the AC thread people are referencing but in regards to Horizon I found the loot boxes utterly pointless to be honest but at least they weren't trying to drain cash out of people. They have tried it before in AC (Edit: MT I mean) and though I never spent a penny I found it invasive. We shall see for Origins I guess.
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