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Horizon Zero Dawn, PS4 Pro Patch is out 1.02

Koutsoubas

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Just downloaded the patch. It adds 2 modes:

- 4K Rendering with Checkerboard for 4K TVs, and downsample at 1080p for the 1080p TVs

- Performance Mode, which enhances Visuals and introduces smooth framerates(I dont know what that does, because tha game was already very smooth 30fps locked)
 

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4 more days fam

 

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Maybe the performance mode increases it to 45 FPS or something?

Cause I can't see the point if it makes it just more stable 30 FPS cause it's already extremely good at sticking to 30 FPS.

Like I can't imagine them going: "Oh shit, the game drops to 29 FPS sometimes. Damn we need a new graphics mode to make sure it never happens."
 

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I'm checking the performance mode now and it's an odd addition as it still runs at 30fps. I assume it gets rid of the very slight slowdown that was present but...it's quite rare and difficult to find so I'm not even sure yet.

At this point, I see no reason not to just stick with the 2160cp mode which looks much sharper and already runs very very smoothly.
 

Koutsoubas

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No I checked, its not 45fps. Its 30fps locked, and I think it will require some effort to find hte differences. The game had flawless performance wise before the patch
 

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this is out already? i take it americans got it early? doesn't come out until 1st march here.
 

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I'm checking the performance mode now and it's an odd addition as it still runs at 30fps. I assume it gets rid of the very slight slowdown that was present but...it's quite rare and difficult to find so I'm not even sure yet.

At this point, I see no reason not to just stick with the 2160cp mode which looks much sharper and already runs very very smoothly.

Oh... So what's the point?

o_O?

No I checked, its not 45fps. Its 30fps locked, and I think it will require some effort to find hte differences. The games was flawless performance wise before the patch

Man that just sucks. :( Got my hopes up for nothing. 30 FPS is fine but a 45 FPS mode would have been interesting!
 

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I'm checking the performance mode now and it's an odd addition as it still runs at 30fps. I assume it gets rid of the very slight slowdown that was present but...it's quite rare and difficult to find so I'm not even sure yet.

At this point, I see no reason not to just stick with the 2160cp mode which looks much sharper and already runs very very smoothly.

Thank you, have you noticed any enhancements to the visuals ?
 

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I'm checking the performance mode now and it's an odd addition as it still runs at 30fps. I assume it gets rid of the very slight slowdown that was present but...it's quite rare and difficult to find so I'm not even sure yet.

At this point, I see no reason not to just stick with the 2160cp mode which looks much sharper and already runs very very smoothly.

Cool! Did you notice added effects/graphical improvements?
 

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I don't think the "Performance Mode" would improve visuals, right? Wouldn't it need to degrade them to improve performance? (Though, if it's still locked to 30, given how stable the base game was, I don't understand why anyone would choose to run it in that mode.)

this is out already? i take it americans got it early? doesn't come out until 1st march here.

Not out here yet either. Presumably they're just getting it in the pipeline for day 1.
 

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For clarity, 4K checkerboard at 30fps locked was already in the game. Sony has communicated that Performance mode locks to 1080p for a higher framerate while keeping the visual enhancements of Pro in general, like anisotropic filtering, higher texture detail, etc.

EDIT: Wow, lots of replies beat me. Yeah, nothing in particular to add here. It's very weird that they have this mode not going above 30 when it was already basically locked there to begin with.
 

Koutsoubas

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For clarity, 4K checkerboard at 30fps locked was already in the game. Sony has communicated that Performance mode locks to 1080p for a higher framerate while keeping the visual enhancements of Pro in general, like anisotropic filtering, higher texture detail, etc.

I confirm that there is no higher framerate. Still 30fps locked
 

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For clarity, 4K checkerboard at 30fps locked was already in the game. Sony has communicated that Performance mode locks to 1080p for a higher framerate while keeping the visual enhancements of Pro in general, like anisotropic filtering, higher texture detail, etc.
But no downsampling I'd guess. Completely pointless, as it's already locked.
 

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I confirm that there is no higher framerate. Still 30fps locked

It almost makes me think that someone thought the game was going to have performance issues but then it didn't but they kept the plan to add in a performance mode anyway?
 

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I'm checking the performance mode now and it's an odd addition as it still runs at 30fps. I assume it gets rid of the very slight slowdown that was present but...it's quite rare and difficult to find so I'm not even sure yet.

At this point, I see no reason not to just stick with the 2160cp mode which looks much sharper and already runs very very smoothly.
Maybe it's there to counter any TLOU like criticisms that arose after your videos showing framerate issues in the 4k mode. Not exactly blaming digital foundry here, but nowadays outrage culture clings on to any bad press and they want to avoid that for their big new IP.
 

Koutsoubas

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It almost makes me think that someone thought the game was going to have performance issues but then it didn't but they kept the plan to add in a performance mode anyway?

No idea, but I would like a 60fps framerate mode!

Hehe
 

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Maybe it's there to counter any TLOU like criticisms that arose after your videos showing framerate issues in the 4k mode. Not exactly blaming digital foundry here, but nowadays outrage culture clings on to any bad press and they want to avoid that for their big new IP.
Well, we knew this patch was coming before our content even went live (before the embargo was up) so they've obviously had it in the works for a while. Just not sure why yet.
 

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I'm checking the performance mode now and it's an odd addition as it still runs at 30fps. I assume it gets rid of the very slight slowdown that was present but...it's quite rare and difficult to find so I'm not even sure yet.

At this point, I see no reason not to just stick with the 2160cp mode which looks much sharper and already runs very very smoothly.

Well more options are good and Square would do good to pay attention *cough* no unlocked framerates *cough*
 

Kalentan

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Well, we knew this patch was coming before our content even went live (before the embargo was up) so they've obviously had it in the works for a while. Just not sure why yet.

Maybe the entire patch is because of that one house you guys mentioned in the framerate test. The dev's were just super annoyed about it and so they developed the performance mode to counter the house.
 

Tyaren

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this is out already? i take it americans got it early? doesn't come out until 1st march here.

Some just get it earlier, because they have review copies or through connections or luck. I'm in the EU too and the store called me up to tell me I can pick the game up tomorrow.
 

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this is out already? i take it americans got it early? doesn't come out until 1st march here.
I've had the opportunity to buy the game for almost two weeks now. I just didn't feel like dropping twice the amount for it.
 

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Hmm for a pure graphics standpoint on a 1080 TV set, is the downsample better than the performance mode?
 

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I'm gonna stick with checkboard mode. I only had slight hitches during some areas with heavy geometry. It looks a little worse in performance mode.
 

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I'm checking the performance mode now and it's an odd addition as it still runs at 30fps. I assume it gets rid of the very slight slowdown that was present but...it's quite rare and difficult to find so I'm not even sure yet.

At this point, I see no reason not to just stick with the 2160cp mode which looks much sharper and already runs very very smoothly.

Did you notice it adding things like water or foliage interaction ?

I think I'm gonna stick to the 2160p mode with this, can't imagine not having the highest IQ possible for this game.
 

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I don't get it. What does "enhanced graphical effects" mean? It makes no sense. It would still look worse than 1080p downsampled from 4K right?
Depends on what "enhanced graphical effects" means. Supersampling does help clarity and shimmer, but has no effect on LOD transitions, shadow resolution, foliage density, etc. that could all fall into the former category. Whether you prefer one or the other approach is subjective. It's good to offer choices (though in this particular case, the choice seems less equivocal).

But no downsampling I'd guess. Completely pointless, as it's already locked.
It's not locked, so it's not pointless. Frankly, Digital Foundry has been less forgiving about framerate issues in other contexts. Horizon is very consistent, but it does have occasional mild drops in traversal and combat, as well as at least one location with consistent sub-30fps performance. For people who are very sensitive to such things, having an option which (presumably) holds 30fps absolutely all the time will be great.
 

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Mmmh, I'm very confused.
I thought that the enhanced effects were already in the disc for 1080p and 4k users.
 

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Mmmh, i'm very confused.
I thought that the enhanced effects were already in the disc for 1080p and 4k users.

We dont know what they mean by enhanced effects yet.. maybe water looks better? LOD pushed out further? and framerate wasnt absolutely perfect before so its not like there was no room for improvement.
 

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Man, I just checked foliage draw distance, shadow quality etc - zero difference. Water? Identical. It looks the same!

That said, the village early on in the game that drops to ~29fps at 2160cp now runs at a perfect 30fps in 1080p mode. Soooo...I mean, if you're bothered by those very tiny drops, the performance mode clears it right up.
 

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Im confused aswell. Cant understand this "Performance" Mode at all. Hope DF can help us out here.