AlternativeUlster
Absolutely pathetic part deux
GhostSeed said:
I want them all! Was Die Hard: the Arcade Game a lightgun game? And was it made by Sega?
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House of the Dead 2 & 3 heading to Wii
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I want them all! Was Die Hard: the Arcade Game a lightgun game? And was it made by Sega?
Sega's Star Wars Trilogy Arcade would work well IMO (but it'll never happen).
It's joystick controlled but could use the Wiimote pointer for shooting..and it shows how motion controlled saber battles could work on Wii
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFvC8uRQ6Us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIreJ4K8gUQ
It's joystick controlled but could use the Wiimote pointer for shooting..and it shows how motion controlled saber battles could work on Wii
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFvC8uRQ6Us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIreJ4K8gUQ
AlternativeUlster
Absolutely pathetic part deux
M3wThr33 said:
I never played it or have never seen it. I want Die Hard Arcade for the Wii too then. I had the Die Hard Trilogy for the Playstation. It was all sorts of awesome.
Taker666 said:
I got so good with that game. It's just so awesome. I single-credit it every time and still love it.
AlternativeUlster said:
DHT2 was ok. Different developer, but it worked ok.
I don't know the likelihood of seeing it re-released as they don't have the license anymore. Dynamite Cop Deka, the sequel to it, though is easily found for the Dreamcast.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
no thanks.
there's no way this can have the accuracy it needs.
not to mention, I had 1 on my Saturn and 2 on my Dreamcast. 3 is garbage, and 4 isn't much better.
I\ll wait for Samba
there's no way this can have the accuracy it needs.
not to mention, I had 1 on my Saturn and 2 on my Dreamcast. 3 is garbage, and 4 isn't much better.
I\ll wait for Samba
Dont see the point of just recycling out a 3 year old xbox port, would of been better if they had included HOTD1 least it would of add something new to the package. Maybe when the PS3 & 360 get their versions of Time Crisis 4 we may see some arcade lightgun games released as downloadables
HyperZone<3
Member
oh and by the way, The Typing of the Dead is on Gametap.
Sega's making too many good decisions with the Wii. No-brainers like this, Ghost Squad, and Samba de Amigo are worrying to me. And they are bringing over Yakuza 2 subtitled fer crying out loud. What if this keeps up, what if Sega actually starts doing things right in general? How will I live in a world where Sega doesn't treat me like a a customer at Wendy's being served by a dead-eyed teen whose misery at performing such a trite and unimportant job is apparent even to the blind? Up is down, black is white, I just don't know how to react to anything anymore.
Sega's making too many good decisions with the Wii. No-brainers like this, Ghost Squad, and Samba de Amigo are worrying to me. And they are bringing over Yakuza 2 subtitled fer crying out loud. What if this keeps up, what if Sega actually starts doing things right in general? How will I live in a world where Sega doesn't treat me like a a customer at Wendy's being served by a dead-eyed teen whose misery at performing such a trite and unimportant job is apparent even to the blind? Up is down, black is white, I just don't know how to react to anything anymore.
PowerSmell
Member
Haunted One said:It's a brave new world.
Except on GAF, where SEGA is still shit upon for the most part.
I hear ya. Even now, when SEGA have already released quite a few great games this year, people still troll the fuck out them in any SEGA-related thread.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
As long as they get around to Daytona USA 3, it's all good.HyperZone<3 said:
Hey, guys. To the ones moaning about "wiimote doesn't work like a lightgun" and "PS3 is getting a real lightgun, it should go there", here goes a shocking piece of information:
1) Old-style lightguns don't work with non-CRT displays. They depended on the scanline drawing, which isn't used by LCDs, Plasmas and variants. So they're dead and will never come back.
2) LCD/Plasma compatible lightguns use exactly the same tech as the wiimote: Infrared leds on the TV and infrared camera on the gun tip. The PS3 Guncon3 works the same (it even comes with it's own "sensor bar"). Even the Super Scope was simply a bazooka-shaped, waggle-less, wiimote more than a decade ago.
So there is no magic preventing 1:1 aiming on the Wii: the game only needs to feature a proper internal recalibration option. Ghost Squad supposedly already does this, allowing the crosshair to be disabled entirely.
(Those bitching about the need for a true gun-shaped shell: ignore the post above, you are correct.)
Oh, and Sega seems very, very traumatized by their past lightgun endeavors and just like Ghost Squad, this straight port of HotD 3 from the Xbox looks like another low-risk test to confirm if it's safe to spend money on more lightgun Wii games.
1) Old-style lightguns don't work with non-CRT displays. They depended on the scanline drawing, which isn't used by LCDs, Plasmas and variants. So they're dead and will never come back.
2) LCD/Plasma compatible lightguns use exactly the same tech as the wiimote: Infrared leds on the TV and infrared camera on the gun tip. The PS3 Guncon3 works the same (it even comes with it's own "sensor bar"). Even the Super Scope was simply a bazooka-shaped, waggle-less, wiimote more than a decade ago.
So there is no magic preventing 1:1 aiming on the Wii: the game only needs to feature a proper internal recalibration option. Ghost Squad supposedly already does this, allowing the crosshair to be disabled entirely.
(Those bitching about the need for a true gun-shaped shell: ignore the post above, you are correct.)
Oh, and Sega seems very, very traumatized by their past lightgun endeavors and just like Ghost Squad, this straight port of HotD 3 from the Xbox looks like another low-risk test to confirm if it's safe to spend money on more lightgun Wii games.
Which bothers me that NO ONE has given details on how well this feature works.M3d10n said:
I have it and it feels great. Just need a game with a calibration screen to truly test it out. Will probably get the piranha if it comes out here. The zapper wouldn't be bad if games let us configure the damn buttons how we wanted.
Ok, now we got them:
(HotD3)
(HotD2)
Eight more for Wii, from SEGA.
Does anyone have similar original pics for comparison? (doesn't have to be the exact same pic as happened with ghost squad :lol )
EDIT: link fixed
(HotD3)
(HotD2)
Eight more for Wii, from SEGA.
Does anyone have similar original pics for comparison? (doesn't have to be the exact same pic as happened with ghost squad :lol )
EDIT: link fixed
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Hell even the freaking target shooting game on Wiiplay works perfectly.
I'm not at all worried about the accuracy of the wiimote.
Looked through the screenshots and HOTD3 looks about arcade/Xbox perfect. HOTD3 btw ran on the same hardware as Ghost Squad and Virtua Cop 3(hey Sega how about VC1-3 on the Wii next?) so it should be an easy enough port.
Oh and the Xbox version of HOTD3(which included HOTD2) also had a featurette/trailer for the House of the Dead movie. I don't think that'll be in the Wii version(Thank God).
I'm not at all worried about the accuracy of the wiimote.
Looked through the screenshots and HOTD3 looks about arcade/Xbox perfect. HOTD3 btw ran on the same hardware as Ghost Squad and Virtua Cop 3(hey Sega how about VC1-3 on the Wii next?) so it should be an easy enough port.
Oh and the Xbox version of HOTD3(which included HOTD2) also had a featurette/trailer for the House of the Dead movie. I don't think that'll be in the Wii version(Thank God).
M3d10n said:
While I love the Wii Remote light gun games, I have a question here... I thought the faux light guns for plasma/lcd screens used more than just single sensor bar. I had the impression some of them (at least) used an "L" shaped bar (or two individual bars) -- one set of sensors for the top of the set, one set for the side.
Am I wrong about that?
First wii images
http://wii.ign.com/articles/835/835875p1.html
Game looks the same as before. I hope Sega does add some new things and tightens up the graphics on level 3.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/835/835875p1.html
Game looks the same as before. I hope Sega does add some new things and tightens up the graphics on level 3.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
4:3.
Get fucked Sega.
Get fucked Sega.
I'm not saying the tech in the GC3 is any different. Hell, I've said that the tech in it, based off of the TC4 cab, PREDATES the Wii, as many people made devices for HDTV already that use IR in lieu of the TV itself.
I'm saying that the Wii is not nice to 3rd-parties. Watch Ghost Squad bomb in the States, maybe even get on the news about upset parents, but that's it.
Plus a cheap shell will never compare to the DUAL ANALOG on the GunCon3 for taking gun games further.
I'm saying that the Wii is not nice to 3rd-parties. Watch Ghost Squad bomb in the States, maybe even get on the news about upset parents, but that's it.
Plus a cheap shell will never compare to the DUAL ANALOG on the GunCon3 for taking gun games further.
brain_stew
Member
Taker666 said:
I loved that game. It was only about 20p a play at the holiday camp I was at one year, and I went on a laod of times.
Joe Molotov
Member
M3wThr33 said:
Lightgun games have never been huge sellers on any console, and Ghost Squad is one that most people in the US haven't even heard of, unlike a House of the Dead or Time Crisis. I'm sure expectations are not that high.
I hope people realize that House of the Dead 2 and 3 were both on the Xbox 1 set (HOTD 2 was unlockable). You can buy that for $14:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00005YELX/?tag=neogaf0e-20
And yes of course lightguns were supported. Watch, Sega will try and charge full price for this old Xbox port.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00005YELX/?tag=neogaf0e-20
And yes of course lightguns were supported. Watch, Sega will try and charge full price for this old Xbox port.
I'm all for light gun games on the Wii but just release a decent gun peripheral surpassing the Guncon 3.
Yeah I think its great that the Wii has these games but I want an extraordinary gun peripheral. Its ridiculous that the Wii will most likely never have something to rival the GC3. When in reality it can't be hard to make one work really really well.
I don't want a piece of plastic with ass backwards trigger hands. I want something that plugs into the Wiimote, requires calibration for 1:1 aiming and finally some force feedback. Not just weak rumble. I want it to be powered by some lithium rechargeables or hell even plugged into my wall. I don't care how its powered but I want the gun to kick when I fire it to get a true arcade experience.
It wouldn't be too hard. All you have to do is make the gun have a kick when the wiimote would normally rumble. Thats easy to program don't you think. I'd pay a good 80 bucks for that thing and a crappy game if it was supported by just 3 decent arcade shooter ports.
I mean then I would have absolutely no reason to go to an arcade. Hell give me the flexibility to make it into a shoulder fire weapon as well for games like Ghost Squad. That would make the Wii the ultimate on rail shooter console.
M3wThr33 said:
Yeah I think its great that the Wii has these games but I want an extraordinary gun peripheral. Its ridiculous that the Wii will most likely never have something to rival the GC3. When in reality it can't be hard to make one work really really well.
I don't want a piece of plastic with ass backwards trigger hands. I want something that plugs into the Wiimote, requires calibration for 1:1 aiming and finally some force feedback. Not just weak rumble. I want it to be powered by some lithium rechargeables or hell even plugged into my wall. I don't care how its powered but I want the gun to kick when I fire it to get a true arcade experience.
It wouldn't be too hard. All you have to do is make the gun have a kick when the wiimote would normally rumble. Thats easy to program don't you think. I'd pay a good 80 bucks for that thing and a crappy game if it was supported by just 3 decent arcade shooter ports.
I mean then I would have absolutely no reason to go to an arcade. Hell give me the flexibility to make it into a shoulder fire weapon as well for games like Ghost Squad. That would make the Wii the ultimate on rail shooter console.
Phife Dawg
Member
Cool, when I first read this I thought it was just speculation. Great that it did turn out true. Next stop Virtua Cop collection.
Also you're debating dual analogue taking gun games further in a thread about HotD ports?
M3wThr33 said:
So which one is it?M3wThr33 said:
Also you're debating dual analogue taking gun games further in a thread about HotD ports?
Kasumi1970
my name is Ted
twinturbo2 said:
What is Wiiware?
The size limitation has been proven false. Nintendo is requesting games be made as small as can be afforded, but there's no actual limitation.Lobster said:
Like that's saying much.M3wThr33 said:
I think the reasoning for Sega's interest in lightgun ports might have something to do with the system's demographic. Considering that the arcade versions of these games are still very popular (every theatre I've been to in the past 5 or 10 years has had either a HotD or Time Crisis or Virtua Cop game present) and are usually situated in places outside of the traditional arcade environment such as theaters and convenience stores and pool halls, one can only assume that games like that are very popular among a more casual crowd in the same way DDR is. With Wii catering to a more casual-oriented audience, maybe they're trying to capitalize on that under the assumption that Wii might be the first console a lot of these casual arcade players have played in a while. Just a thought, anyways, but given the heavy prominence of Sega's porting efforts, it wouldn't surprise me if that was the case.
edwardslane
Member
yea i hope they update the graphics and ad 480p and such.
This will be a good weekend rental for sure.
This will be a good weekend rental for sure.
brain_stew
Member
M3wThr33 said:
If the game is going to "bomb" on Wii with a budget price then what's it going to do on PS3 when it'll have to cost more than $60? Oh, and that's forgetting the fact that there'd be higher dev costs. The only financially viable console to put lightgun games in is the Wii, like it or lump it.
