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How A Team Of Two People Is Bringing Us 2014's Largest JRPG(Trails in the Sky:SC)
- Thread starter CrazyDude
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I think so, yes.
It doesn't sound like they plan on stopping soon.Ghostlight said:
Basileus777
Member
Agarest did well in the Steam charts after it was released. It's tough to draw any firm conclusions from that, but I'd wager it did well for them.
Add this masterpiece to the list too:
XSEED please. Oh, and don't forget Dinosaur Resurrection.
oneils
Member
Thanks. Saw some announcements for it that date back to September.
someguyinahat
Member
I don't know about others, but Trails in the Sky series is known for its intricate world building, very detailed script, a lot of well-done foreshadowing and likable characters, great music and good gameplay.
This reads almost like a warning. Hopefully gamers are aware that this is a dialogue-heavy game, because otherwise all the community reviews will read "this game sucks, so much dialogue to skip through before you get to the action!"
Berserker976
Member
This thread just made me buy the first game on my Vita, and I'm really excited to play it.
I've been wanting to get into a big, traditional jrpg, and since the sequel should be coming soon I figure this series will help the wait for Persona 5 feel less excruciating.
I've been wanting to get into a big, traditional jrpg, and since the sequel should be coming soon I figure this series will help the wait for Persona 5 feel less excruciating.
I'd think that the games have still less dialogue than in PS:T.
someguyinahat
Member
I hereby decree dialogue-heavy RPGs to be given the genre "Tormentlikes."
Basileus777
Member
Nah. Trails has more, so much that at times it feels like a poorly edited draft with all its superfluous dialogue and empty chatter. Great story, but economy of words is not its strength.
Waldo Lydecker
Member
Still not sure if I will buy this.
I've played the first Tits on PSP and while it wasn't bad I think I expected too much. Some parts were incredibly slow, the graphics were bland and the music wasn't something to write home about. I somehow struggled to finish it but I did, thanks to the interesting world, characters and stories behind them.
Are the 2nd and 3rd game regarded as better games?
I've played the first Tits on PSP and while it wasn't bad I think I expected too much. Some parts were incredibly slow, the graphics were bland and the music wasn't something to write home about. I somehow struggled to finish it but I did, thanks to the interesting world, characters and stories behind them.
Are the 2nd and 3rd game regarded as better games?
Dragon1893
Member
These guys are friggin' heroes. Never has anyone in this industry been so deserving of my money, I had honestly given up, still can't believe it's happening.
Ys*
Thank you.
Interfectum
Member
Steam is the gift that keeps on giving.
Has the PSP version of the first chapter been on sale yet? I might pick up it to prepare.
Nice to hear them speak up about the success of Ys on Steam.
Should only help to get other devs/publishers to jump on board.
January would make a nice combo of Japanese releases with Revengeance and (possibly) Ikaruga.
Should only help to get other devs/publishers to jump on board.
January would make a nice combo of Japanese releases with Revengeance and (possibly) Ikaruga.
i picked it up yesterday, i figure it will go on sale close to SC's release date but at 30+ hours i want to start it now so i beat it before SC drops
I am confused, I just finished playing the game on the vita using the analogue stick. Do you mean some thing else?
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
he probably played on a PSP
SpaceDrake
Member
What it clearly tries to do is two things:
1) Give everyone something to say. I really get the impression that the writing team was influenced by a lot of titles from the late 90s and early noughts where a lot of characters just kind of... disappeared after joining the party. Trails goes out of its way to give all your party members SOMETHING to say about what's going on, to try and make them present and like people rather than roaming stat blocks. This is doubly true in SC where you actually end up having a lot of options about who is in your party, when.
I think the effectiveness of it might lie in the eye of the beholder, ultimately, but having played some older RPGs while working alongside SC, I can't help but feel there was a specific kind of problem and disconnect the writing team was trying to address.
2) Make the conversations sound natural. There is a lot of "unnecessary" dialogue, strictly speaking, in the text - but a good deal of it is the sort of give-and-take you find in conversations between friends and whatnot. This is especially true for the original Japanese, in a way that is once again rather difficult to sum up in a single forum post, and we're preserving that tone in the English version. It does end up being a little "too verbose", I suppose, by what most literature publishers would use as standards - but it's also clear that it was done with purpose, and I do think there are a number of places it works well.
Also, I didn't expect this to hit GAF so long after being posted. Hi dudes.
More of the same. SC continues after the ending of the the first. If you struggled to get through to get through the first then the series might not be for you. Nothing wrong with that.
Tye The Czar
Member
This is JRPGs in general.
that game is definitely my top 5 games every made in that generation. sadly i do not think it did well, so it's dead
What it clearly tries to do is two things:
1) Give everyone something to say. I really get the impression that the writing team was influenced by a lot of titles from the late 90s and early noughts where a lot of characters just kind of... disappeared after joining the party. Trails goes out of its way to give all your party members SOMETHING to say about what's going on, to try and make them present and like people rather than roaming stat blocks. This is doubly true in SC where you actually end up having a lot of options about who is in your party, when.
I think the effectiveness of it might lie in the eye of the beholder, ultimately, but having played some older RPGs while working alongside SC, I can't help but feel there was a specific kind of problem and disconnect the writing team was trying to address.
2) Make the conversations sound natural. There is a lot of "unnecessary" dialogue, strictly speaking, in the text - but a good deal of it is the sort of give-and-take you find in conversations between friends and whatnot. This is especially true for the original Japanese, in a way that is once again rather difficult to sum up in a single forum post, and we're preserving that tone in the English version. It does end up being a little "too verbose", I suppose, by what most literature publishers would use as standards - but it's also clear that it was done with purpose, and I do think there are a number of places it works well.
Also, I didn't expect this to hit GAF so long after being posted. Hi dudes.Always helps to see some hype get going for this. I hope people end up liking the final product!
Is the way people speak going to be consistent with the way it was in the first one?
Interfectum
Member
Now if someone could port the Suikoden series to Steam complete with Steam Cloud and Achievements I'd be one of the happiest gamers on the planet.
thesaucetastic
Unconfirmed Member
I've heard a lot of good things about TitS, so I'm happy that the first chapter is coming to PC, since I don't own a PSP or Vita. Didn't know the second chapter was coming too, though! More jrpgs on Steam can't be a bad thing at all.
SpaceDrake
Member
Yep, it'll be consistent. A few characters may seem a little "different" simply because they have a hell of a lot more to say and do (Scherazard is probably the biggest example of this), but we're doing our level best to keep things consistent.
To be fair, a lot of text in TiTS could easily have been trimmed down, it felt like those unedited books.
Dragon1893
Member
Played the first one on the PSP and want to play it again before SC arrives but I'm torn between Vita and PC. I'll have to stick with the system I choose for the whole franchise and I'm not sure what to do, it's definitely the kind of game I'd rather play on a handheld but I'm assuming the PC version will look better.
I'm worried that the third game might end up being steam only since the vita is on life support.
I'm worried that the third game might end up being steam only since the vita is on life support.
I owned the PSP UMD for this but never finished it due to selling my PSP and saving for a Vita. The game is quality and the text heavy nature of it never bothered me. No, the only thing I would change about the game (if I could pick one thing) is the speed of the combat.
I like JRPG's with snappy combat and TiTS was a little bit slow for me on the PSP.
Nevertheless, I'm planning on double dipping once the Steam release hits as long as the price is reasonable.
SC's release is some of the best gaming news that RPG fans in America have had in a very long time. One of the reasons I never bothered to go back and finish TiTS is because I didn't think we would be getting the rest of the series. So, thank you, Carpe Fulgur and XSEED. Sometimes good things do happen!
I like JRPG's with snappy combat and TiTS was a little bit slow for me on the PSP.
Nevertheless, I'm planning on double dipping once the Steam release hits as long as the price is reasonable.
SC's release is some of the best gaming news that RPG fans in America have had in a very long time. One of the reasons I never bothered to go back and finish TiTS is because I didn't think we would be getting the rest of the series. So, thank you, Carpe Fulgur and XSEED. Sometimes good things do happen!
AuthenticM
Member
What's the full name of the game ? It's nowhere in the article. :/
The first paragraph says The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC. The second paragraph says that SC means second chapter.
I'm not sure if they're calling it SC or Second Chapter officially.
Dreamgazer
Member
It's so weird reading people getting hyped about this game when I have already played it 6-7 years ago...
Anyway, assuming there hasn't been any changes for the PC version, I just want to make 2 comments:
1) The PC version doesn't look that good anyway, so don't make that a deciding protable/PC choice factor.
2) Mouse controls won't feel as natural since there is no right click context/action menu:
I guess I'm sort of spoiled by TGL and their Farland series, which had the action commands available through a right click menu. In SnK FC/SC you have to perform this extra step of moving your cursor to the command icon to perform a move. In that sense, it's better that people stick to keyboard/gamepad only.
Anyway, assuming there hasn't been any changes for the PC version, I just want to make 2 comments:
1) The PC version doesn't look that good anyway, so don't make that a deciding protable/PC choice factor.
2) Mouse controls won't feel as natural since there is no right click context/action menu:
I guess I'm sort of spoiled by TGL and their Farland series, which had the action commands available through a right click menu. In SnK FC/SC you have to perform this extra step of moving your cursor to the command icon to perform a move. In that sense, it's better that people stick to keyboard/gamepad only.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Ouch, dat spine...
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Carpe Fulgur: Big Goddamn Heroes
They did.
Also, Capcpom, SE, Sega put up new ones irregularly of their own volition.
And?
Congratulations! These two series go very well together, they're the bash brothers of outstanding light RPG plots.
I distinctly remember pointing this very problem out to my brothers and a friend who played RPGs back when as I played FFIX and Grandia 2 (but also giving FFT a pass due the sky-high bodycount in that making it dicey and understandable). Later games like Trails were similar, characters flitted in and out of "existance" as it were, being units only the rest of the time. Persona 2: EP and to a much less dialogue-heavy extent Suikoden cultivated personality. Much of the dialogue was of personalities interacting naturally rather than words in the service of stating something to the player. The characters did not cease to be when not in use, like tools. It's as if the various heads of characters, story, and cutscenes didn't work as one team or something...
Someone mentioned Golden Sun: Dark Dawn as the negative antithesis of Trails and that's that EXACT mistake writ large. Empty, meaningless WORDS instead of conversation.
They did.
Also, Capcpom, SE, Sega put up new ones irregularly of their own volition.
And?
Congratulations! These two series go very well together, they're the bash brothers of outstanding light RPG plots.
What it clearly tries to do is two things:
1) Give everyone something to say. I really get the impression that the writing team was influenced by a lot of titles from the late 90s and early noughts where a lot of characters just kind of... disappeared after joining the party. Trails goes out of its way to give all your party members SOMETHING to say about what's going on, to try and make them present and like people rather than roaming stat blocks. This is doubly true in SC where you actually end up having a lot of options about who is in your party, when.
I think the effectiveness of it might lie in the eye of the beholder, ultimately, but having played some older RPGs while working alongside SC, I can't help but feel there was a specific kind of problem and disconnect the writing team was trying to address.
2) Make the conversations sound natural. There is a lot of "unnecessary" dialogue, strictly speaking, in the text - but a good deal of it is the sort of give-and-take you find in conversations between friends and whatnot. This is especially true for the original Japanese, in a way that is once again rather difficult to sum up in a single forum post, and we're preserving that tone in the English version. It does end up being a little "too verbose", I suppose, by what most literature publishers would use as standards - but it's also clear that it was done with purpose, and I do think there are a number of places it works well.
Also, I didn't expect this to hit GAF so long after being posted. Hi dudes.Always helps to see some hype get going for this. I hope people end up liking the final product!
I distinctly remember pointing this very problem out to my brothers and a friend who played RPGs back when as I played FFIX and Grandia 2 (but also giving FFT a pass due the sky-high bodycount in that making it dicey and understandable). Later games like Trails were similar, characters flitted in and out of "existance" as it were, being units only the rest of the time. Persona 2: EP and to a much less dialogue-heavy extent Suikoden cultivated personality. Much of the dialogue was of personalities interacting naturally rather than words in the service of stating something to the player. The characters did not cease to be when not in use, like tools. It's as if the various heads of characters, story, and cutscenes didn't work as one team or something...
Someone mentioned Golden Sun: Dark Dawn as the negative antithesis of Trails and that's that EXACT mistake writ large. Empty, meaningless WORDS instead of conversation.
Hours Left
Member
I've got hype running on full blast.Also, I didn't expect this to hit GAF so long after being posted. Hi dudes.Always helps to see some hype get going for this. I hope people end up liking the final product!
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Same here. It has ONLY just BEGUN. /ricflair