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How can the world trust anything China says after this fiasco?

matt404au

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The fuck are you talking about? China hasn't stopped a single day to tell every country that they need to take the most drastic measures. It's not their fault that all other countries are incapable of doing just that. China took measures when there were 400 cases in a region with 60 million people and barely any deaths. All other countries have waited several weeks after that point and try to keep people go to work. That's not how it works. Workplace is one of the most critical infection hotspots. China managed to get over Covid-19 because they basically locked everyone in their house and provided them with the food they needed.
 
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Also why are we westerners so angry at China now? Our whole fucking standard of living comes from them. Western corporations have taken advantage of chinese slave labor to provide us all of all the nice little things we posses. Do you think corporations care about ideologies? they don't fucking care if they are dealing with communists, fascists, capitalists, terrorists or colonialists, they care about money and influence, history has shown that. This is the wonderful world created by the invisible (which is also amoral and blind) hand of the holy market which Reagan and Thatcher so eloquently sold us back in the day.

So enjoy it because we all are part of what is happening. no one can play the victim here. We have been repeatedly warned about this for decades and while cash and nice little trinkets were coming nobody gave two shits about any injustice or immoral behavior until it takes the form of a microscopic bug and comes knocking on our door.

This is all true. The Chinese government is still shit, though. On the other hand, it's capitalism that made china big as well as the common people who worship capitalism and money. Forget christianity, Islam and others. Crisis like this really show the true problems of modern humankind.
 
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Also why are we westerners so angry at China now? Our whole fucking standard of living comes from them. Western corporations have taken advantage of chinese slave labor to provide us all of all the nice little things we posses. Do you think corporations care about ideologies? they don't fucking care if they are dealing with communists, fascists, capitalists, terrorists or colonialists, they care about money and influence, history has shown that. This is the wonderful world created by the invisible (which is also amoral and blind) hand of the holy market which Reagan and Thatcher so eloquently sold us back in the day.

So enjoy it because we all are part of what is happening. no one can play the victim here. We have been repeatedly warned about this for decades and while cash and nice little trinkets were coming nobody gave two shits about any injustice or immoral behavior until it takes the form of a microscopic bug and comes knocking on our door.

Us right wing nationalists are the ones who have been warning people that our manufacturing is being sold out to China! People like you call us nazis for it.
 
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longdi

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Hey US gaffers, there is growing views that wuhan virus is actually the Maryland virus!

https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-...ted-us/5706078
  1. Jul 2019 - CDC shut down the US Military’s main bio-lab at Fort Detrick, Maryland, due to an absence of safeguards against pathogen leakages, issuing a complete "cease and desist" order to the military.
    Source https://www.fredericknewspost.com/ne...15db4396d.html
  2. Aug 2019 - US had a flurry of lung pneumonia or similar, which the Americans blamed on "vaping" from e-cigarettes, but which, according to the scientist, the symptoms and conditions could not be explained by e-cigarettes.
  3. Oct 2019 - Foreign athletes or other personnel visiting Wuhan for the World Military Games were hospitalized in Wuhan for an undetermined infection.
  4. Oct 2019 - United States organized Event 201 - A Global Pandemic Exercise with the participation of the Deputy Director of CIA
  5. Nov 2019 - Pneumonia of undetermined origin was found in China
 

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Hey US gaffers, there is growing views that wuhan virus is actually the Maryland virus!

https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-...ted-us/5706078
  1. Jul 2019 - CDC shut down the US Military’s main bio-lab at Fort Detrick, Maryland, due to an absence of safeguards against pathogen leakages, issuing a complete "cease and desist" order to the military.
    Source https://www.fredericknewspost.com/ne...15db4396d.html
  2. Aug 2019 - US had a flurry of lung pneumonia or similar, which the Americans blamed on "vaping" from e-cigarettes, but which, according to the scientist, the symptoms and conditions could not be explained by e-cigarettes.
  3. Oct 2019 - Foreign athletes or other personnel visiting Wuhan for the World Military Games were hospitalized in Wuhan for an undetermined infection.
  4. Oct 2019 - United States organized Event 201 - A Global Pandemic Exercise with the participation of the Deputy Director of CIA
  5. Nov 2019 - Pneumonia of undetermined origin was found in China
Stop reading Chinese ‘research’ bro
 

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Us right wing nationalists are the ones who have been warning people that our manufacturing is being sold out to China! People like you call us nazis for it.
Wut? The left has been warning about globalization since the 80s and right wing economists laughed at them because back then the US was the one taking benefits from cheap work force and resources by exploiting poor nations. Basically, this is what the left knew capitalism would become if unchecked. The right chose free trade over fair trade.
 

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I think Trump was told to make the market crash so that his rich friends can pick up cheap stocks.

Destory China growth
Continue suppressing EU in their shit state
Further enrich the powerful backhands

Seems totally US...
Oh wait, you’re serious
 
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China lies about whatever they want. It doesn’t absolve trump and other governments from allowing covid19 to spread like wildfire.
Also stopping travel from just China wouldn’t have helped. It was in S Korea, the entire UK and other places too.
 

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I think Trump was told to make the market crash so that his rich friends can pick up cheap stocks.

Destory China growth
Continue suppressing EU in their shit state
Further enrich the powerful backhands

Seems totally US...
This is almost as retarded as your idea that this started in Maryland
 

longdi

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This is almost as retarded as your idea that this started in Maryland
Not mine though. Im just gamer in GAF.

Written by someone with far more expertise with the world affairs.
Larry Romanoff
is a retired management consultant and businessman. He has held senior executive positions in international consulting firms, and owned an international import-export business.
 

oagboghi2

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Not mine though. Im just gamer in GAF.

Written by someone with far more expertise with the world affairs.
Literally none of those qualifications you listed are relevant. So he is a buisness consultant, not a Dr or a virus researcher?

And he works in imports/exports?Let me guess, he has contracts with firms in China and wouldn't benefit from people knowing the Wuhan virus came from China.
 
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I believe this chart is dependent on the assumption that these countries are accurately informed of the impending pandemic.
Literal fucking viral genetic code released to the world 1 week into JANUARY, followed by mass lock downs in China and South Korea 2 weeks later. At worst you had 2 months. At best 3 months.

I'm sorry did you need a year to prepare?


 
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matt404au

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Literal fucking viral genetic code released to the world 1 week into JANUARY, followed by mass lock downs in China and South Korea 2 weeks later. At worst you had 2 months. At best 3 months.

I'm sorry did you need a year to prepare?
Covered up since November. Robbed of two critical months. Nice try, comrade, but your dishonesty has no power here.
 
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Maryland virus brought to Wuhan by hundreds of American athletes during world games. The timeline matches everything. Explains why most Australian cases are from US or with US travel links and not from China, given we have 1 million Chinese living here that regularly travel to and from China...explains why Italy, especially Lombardy, host to numerous US airbases which let their infected troops roam Italy's tourist sites during leave, is another epicenter. Explains the seriously inflated number of US 'flu pneumonia' deaths in late 2019.

When the whole truth comes out, you will be surprised pikachu face indeed.

American Virus will receive due recognition in time.
 
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crowbrow

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I believe this chart is dependent on the assumption that these countries are accurately informed of the impending pandemic.
They were. There were Senators in the US mass selling stocks way before any measurements were taken. They knew what was coming. Besides, most of those countries responded better than the first two with the same amount of information.
 

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Well, I don't trust the Chinese nor the American government. I don't trust any government.
Chinese are accusing USA of planting the virus in China as a retaliation for the trade war. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.
it’s not man made. It came from a bat.
 
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V4skunk

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Wut? The left has been warning about globalization since the 80s and right wing economists laughed at them because back then the US was the one taking benefits from cheap work force and resources by exploiting poor nations. Basically, this is what the left knew capitalism would become if unchecked. The right chose free trade over fair trade.
The left are pushing for globalism lol. You really don't understand the ideology.
 

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Maryland virus brought to Wuhan by hundreds of American athletes during world games. The timeline matches everything. Explains why most Australian cases are from US or with US travel links and not from China, given we have 1 million Chinese living here that regularly travel to and from China...explains why Italy, especially Lombardy, host to numerous US airbases which let their infected troops roam Italy's tourist sites during leave, is another epicenter. Explains the seriously inflated number of US 'flu pneumonia' deaths in late 2019.

When the whole truth comes out, you will be surprised pikachu face indeed.

American Virus will receive due recognition in time.
Just a reminder of how you were handwaving and spreading FUD about the pandemic since back in January:

I see the usual suspects are pushing paid actor videos. Those two got kicked out of China for financial/taxation reasons (they couldn't get their visa's renewed because one of them lied about his past work-winston was a mere english teacher but lied that he worked as a trainer for medical professionals-milk got dragged into it by association, since they had a motorcycle business together) and now live in Vietnam, farming anti-china youtube views from a poorer, less hygienic version of China. They now rely on stock footage and anonymous 'friends in china' sources for information. The irony would be delicious, if it weren't so sadly obvious. No doubt they are especially salty because they were forced to leave all their money and assets behind in China or at very least surrender them to their wife's families.

The only input they can bring to this situation is propaganda and fake news.
The US is experiencing a flu crisis at the moment. 6,000+ perished in latest flu season which is a record. Maybe focus on addressing that instead...
Keep your China inspired night-scares wet dreams to yourself. We real talkin' right now. Anecdotes are the desperate man's argument.

I can give you evidence of the same trashy food prep environments in any US or Australian eatery then generalize until the end of time based on that. Or maybe you want examples of French restaurants in Paris poisoning customers with bad meat. But those would just be more anecdotes serving an agenda. Given the amount of food eaten and the number of people eating it, you'd think according to your all encompassing generalization that millions would be suffering from food poisoning on a daily basis (they don't). The food standards are very good overall because the faults were recognized and dealt with. Same reason China's construction industry is the safest in the world, despite over 50% of all global construction taking place there. In the past it wasn't, and the problems were dealt with so now workers don't have to die building high rises.
At a certain point don't you get bored spreading obvious lies?
 
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Just a reminder of how you were handwaving and spreading FUD about the pandemic since back in January:
At a certain point don't you get bored spreading obvious lies?


I was ultimately right. It was no big deal for China, which dealt with it decisively. Those falun gong channels made fools of themselves.
 
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Just a reminder of how you were handwaving and spreading FUD about the pandemic since back in January:







At a certain point don't you get bored spreading obvious lies?
I don't think he's serious. The commitment he has shown to his online persona, although impressive to the point of being almost commendable is ultimately quite silly though.

At some point, it does get long in the tooth. Which defeats the whole point of trolling. You never go full retard, he might have.
 
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Maryland virus brought to Wuhan by hundreds of American athletes during world games. The timeline matches everything. Explains why most Australian cases are from US or with US travel links and not from China, given we have 1 million Chinese living here that regularly travel to and from China...explains why Italy, especially Lombardy, host to numerous US airbases which let their infected troops roam Italy's tourist sites during leave, is another epicenter. Explains the seriously inflated number of US 'flu pneumonia' deaths in late 2019.

When the whole truth comes out, you will be surprised pikachu face indeed.

American Virus will receive due recognition in time.
Its pathetic to see people cling to this Maryland theory.

We know where the virus originated. There is zero proof that the Maryland csses had anything to do with the outbreak in Wuhan.
 

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Maryland virus brought to Wuhan by hundreds of American athletes during world games. The timeline matches everything. Explains why most Australian cases are from US or with US travel links and not from China, given we have 1 million Chinese living here that regularly travel to and from China...explains why Italy, especially Lombardy, host to numerous US airbases which let their infected troops roam Italy's tourist sites during leave, is another epicenter. Explains the seriously inflated number of US 'flu pneumonia' deaths in late 2019.

When the whole truth comes out, you will be surprised pikachu face indeed.

American Virus will receive due recognition in time.
Wow this sound convincing. I did not hear of this theory yet.
Only heard about the chinese scientist escaping with canada virus sample to wuhan and there was a biological leak.
Do you have america 2019 flu deaths stats?
Poor Xi for mopping up Trump problems?
 

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The fuck are you talking about? China hasn't stopped a single day to tell every country that they need to take the most drastic measures. It's not their fault that all other countries are incapable of doing just that. China took measures when there were 400 cases in a region with 60 million people and barely any deaths. All other countries have waited several weeks after that point and try to keep people go to work. That's not how it works. Workplace is one of the most critical infection hotspots. China managed to get over Covid-19 because they basically locked everyone in their house and provided them with the food they needed.
 

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Wow this sound convincing. I did not hear of this theory yet.
Only heard about the chinese scientist escaping with canada virus sample to wuhan and there was a biological leak.
Do you have america 2019 flu deaths stats?
Poor Xi for mopping up Trump problems?
Fake news. You should be embarrassed for getting duped so easily.
 
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I hadn't heard of this Maryland theory. Sounds retarded. If the virus started in the US and is as contagious as it is definitively proven to be, where was the US outbreak before Wuhan?