Kenneth Haight
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How would you feel if Fromsoft announce their next game is PS5 console exclusive?
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EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Microsoft looked up and they’re the underdogs now.
yazenov
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Elden Ring Sales Off to Incredible Start
Elden Ring, the popular FromSoftware title, is witnessing an explosive start and is breaking multiple records in a short span of time.gamerant.com
Looking at those stats (assuming they could make it console exclusive but still let them release on PC), Surely Kadokawa would still want a chunk (they own 70% of Fromsoftware so I assume they have the final say) of money to make up for those lost Xbox sales.
That split was for the uk i think.
Elden Ring is the biggest new IP since The Division | European Monthly Charts
Elden Ring is Europe's biggest new games IP since The Division in 2016, and the biggest game launch since Call of Duty:…
www.gamesindustry.biz
The FromSoftware game sold best on PC, representing 44% of total sales. Then it's PS5 with 27%, then Xbox (16%) and finally PS4 (13%).
It was comfortably Europe's biggest game of February, and was No.1 in
Xbox split in Europe is only 16%, while PS is 40% and PC 44%. (this splits are the total for Europe including the UK).
And in Japan and Asia, the Xbox splits are negligible.
Like I said, From Software will do just fine skipping the Xbox platform. Now, PC is different story.
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I Master l
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From next game will be current gen consoles only and it's probably 4 years from now, unless you have the magic
ball there is no way to know how much split in games sales between ps5 and series consoles by then
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NightmareFarm
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Based. Still not getting it.
Spaceman292
Banned
horny
MALpractice311
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As a Sony fan, PS5 exclusive works just fine for me. Best case scenario is Sony would provide From with some technical/engine assistance. If it's multiplatform, that's great for everyone. If it's Xbox exclusive, it would depend. If it was Xbox exclusive because Microsoft provided marketing or technical support or paid for the exclusivity, that's fine. If it was Xbox exclusive because Microsoft bought From, I would be pissed. I don't like monopolies and Microsoft's continued acquisitions are becoming more and more troublesome.
levyjl1988
Banned
I bought Elden Ring on Xbox SX and played it.
I have a PS5, but my console of choice is Xbox, I bought Bloodborne and Demon's Souls on PS5, but didn't play it nearly as much. I would prefer to play it on my console of choice.
If a game in the series goes exclusive it is a loss and companies are leaving money on the table. Games need to be pulled off like Minecraft and available for all but cross-save and cross-system multiplayer.
I have a PS5, but my console of choice is Xbox, I bought Bloodborne and Demon's Souls on PS5, but didn't play it nearly as much. I would prefer to play it on my console of choice.
If a game in the series goes exclusive it is a loss and companies are leaving money on the table. Games need to be pulled off like Minecraft and available for all but cross-save and cross-system multiplayer.
Fredrik
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Hmm that’s an interesting thought. I wonder how this thread would sound if it asked:
”How would you feel if Fromsoft announce their next game is Xbox console exclusive?”
Can totally imagine someone screaming ”I’d sell my console and stop gaming!1!”
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Swift_Star
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If it’s funded by Sony, I can’t see the problem.
remember_spinal
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Its weird that some say Fromsoftware would be dooming themesleves leaving money on the table with ps and pc but is that not the same situation for elder scrolls a game that is considerably a way bigger multiplatform franchise?
Versus a totally new IP from Miyazaki ?
Versus a totally new IP from Miyazaki ?
Imru’ al-Qays
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It's clear from From's recent history that they like to alternate money-makers and more experimental passion projects. That fits well with Sony funding exclusives, since niche halo products are ideal as third party exclusives.
Elden Ring 2 will be multiplatform, the next Bloodborne or Sekiro "Souls gaiden" style game may well not be.
Bethesda is absolutely leaving money on the table by not releasing games for PlayStation, but that's a sacrifice Microsoft is willing to make. Sony doesn't own Fromsoft outright, so they can't compel them to do things that don't make business sense. What they can do is offer to fund projects that other publishers wouldn't be willing to fund under favorable terms.
Elden Ring 2 will be multiplatform, the next Bloodborne or Sekiro "Souls gaiden" style game may well not be.
Bethesda is absolutely leaving money on the table by not releasing games for PlayStation, but that's a sacrifice Microsoft is willing to make. Sony doesn't own Fromsoft outright, so they can't compel them to do things that don't make business sense. What they can do is offer to fund projects that other publishers wouldn't be willing to fund under favorable terms.
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remember_spinal
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All that matters is money, its why they can get things like final fantasy and silent hill. The split for japanese games on xbox platform is low enough that funding development, paying for marketing, or providing other technical resources easily makes up for it.
And again, we’re ignoring the fact that sony invested money into the company already, thats the biggest money hat that exist
Elder Legend
Banned
Don't give a shit who buys them as long as they keep making masterpieces.
If they did get bought out by Microsoft or Sony though the meltdowns and fanboy wars would be hilarious to watch, read and listen too. I hope someone buys them, just for that reason lol, it would be fucking hysterical.
If they did get bought out by Microsoft or Sony though the meltdowns and fanboy wars would be hilarious to watch, read and listen too. I hope someone buys them, just for that reason lol, it would be fucking hysterical.
nightmare-slain
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I'd be a bit pissed but no chance am I missing out on it so I'll grab a PS5 just to play it. Once I had played the ever loving shit out of it then I'd sell the PS5.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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PCMR needing the consoles to even survive on its own, as per usual
On topic, if FromSoft do a PS5-exclusive, please just make sure Bluepoint are involved on the technical side at very least. From's engine needs a serious tune-up.
PC, yes. Xbox, not so much. I mean ER sold pretty decently there but the majority of sales were PS & PC with PC having a slight edge.
If I had to take a guess, the split is probably something like 42% PC, 40% PlayStation, 18% Xbox globally.
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TheGodfather07
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Well if there is, its gonna be either a new ip or possibly even bloodborne II. So I'm fine with it. Elden Ring II and bloodborne II. Sounds good doesnt it! That way fromsoft can keep their old formula along with fully open world.
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akaFullmetal
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If Sony pays for the game it would make sense it is exclusive like demon souls or bloodborne. Hopefully their next game is multiplatform.
MALpractice311
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This is very much what I'm hoping for. I know mainstream audiences love their open worlds and I would never stop From from making some money, but I personally prefer smaller, more focused experiences. Hopefully, now that From allegedly has three main teams, they can alternate between their big mainstream, open world games and their smaller, more linear games.
SoraNoKuni
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They have 2 teams working on projects, if one is exclusive it's ok, there is a tradition that from works with Sony for some more experimental games so it's possible there is something.
FingerBang
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I am sure we'll hear about a PS5 exclusive game from FS like DeS and Bloodborne.
I doubt it'll be anytime soon though.
I doubt it'll be anytime soon though.
cireza
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I wouldn't make any sense as they are third party. Look at Elden Ring sales, try reaching such success with only one machine. Good luck.
I would really like to see them coming back at something like Sekiro, with no inventory / no stats. It was their best game, in my opinion.
I would really like to see them coming back at something like Sekiro, with no inventory / no stats. It was their best game, in my opinion.
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Fredrik
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A Bluepoint or The Coalition collaboration for graphics tech only would be nice, but without that I don’t see any upside. I hope they got a big enough taste of the multiplat money to realize it’s better for everyone to release games on all platforms going forward.
Plus, Sony have Bluepoint now anyway, I’d like to see them show what they can do fully unleashed, let them create and direct their own Bloodborne 2 and Demon’s Souls 2, both are Sony’s IPs.
remember_spinal
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Bluepoint can do their own game and Fromsoft can still make a playstation game, its not really one or the other.
Guerrilla lending the decima engine out to devs and providing assistance doesn’t stop them from making horizon.
It wouldn’t really stop bluepoint from lending their engine out. Bluepoint just assisted Santa Monica on God of War while making their new game
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SteelCurtain 59
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I'll never understand people hoping for less people to have access to a game. I want From's next game to be released on Xbox/Playstation/PC because they're good games and the more people who play good games the better
remember_spinal
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Why wouldn’t fans of bloodborne and demon’s souls want them collaborate again though?
There are tangible benefits other than someone not being able to play a game
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Fredrik
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Sure but like I said then I don’t see any upside to it, just means I’ll be stuck playing their badly optimized console version for no reason, and they’ll sell less games so I’m not sure what’s in it for FROM either. A better strategy is to collaborate with Bluepoint for graphics tech, then it could be great.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
I'd just love to see them doing anything different.
Even if it's more medieval dark fantasy. Just change the mechanics enough so I feel like I'm playing something new.
Elder Legend
Banned
How can you really change the mechanics though? It's really hard to reinvent the wheel for combat systems.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Either make it even more action focused like Dragon's Dogma, with it's special attacks and soft lock-on which is great for fighting groups of enemies...
Or make it something more involved, like For Honor or Mount & Blade, which systems are great for 1vs1 combat.
Also, no more rolling like a maniac, which will make positioning yourself and being able to defend/parry attacks something more important.
There's really no need to reinvent the wheel. Their games are great in many aspects, it's just that I'd like something maybe not new, but a bit fresh for it's combat. If Elden Ring 2's combat is basically the same then I'd probably be just a bit disappointed, even if I'm 100% sure I'd still enjoy that game.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Exclusive beggars are gonna get B team sequel to Deracine for PSVR2
Everyone else is gonna get more Elden Ring from Miyazaki
Elder Legend
Banned
Fair enough. I never played Dragon's Dogma so I can't speak for that. With the sequel announced though, I'll prolly do a play through and see what it's all about.
As for no rolling, that would be very weird for a souls game. I find it very hard to imagine a souls game without rolling. It's a signature at this point. It's like playing God of War without pulling enemies in with the Blades of Chaos in my opinion.
I think Bloodborne had a good combat system with its own twist that was fun and engaging and fitting to the lore. Same for Sekiro. Elden Ring is really just Dark Souls IV in disguise. Even Miyazaki confirmed that the combat system in Elden Ring is an evolution of Dark Souls 3 combat.
Elden Ring 2 is technically going to be Dark Souls V. Both franchises are medieval and very similar to each other. One is open world the other is not. As for combat in that game... well I would just assume it's going to be an evolution of the Elder Rings combat.
Biggest difference for me between Elden Ring and Dark Souls combat was the ability to do jump heavy attacks and how the staggering worked. Really made a lot of bosses trivial.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
It may not be for everyone... for me, it's the best 7/10 I'll ever play. Hope you like it! There's a ton of things to love in that game if it manages to click with you.
Yeah agree. I think slight changes on the formula like those Bloodborne introduced would be enough for me.
You think a company can just wipe out 16% of their sales like it's no big deal?
Balducci30
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Makes no difference to me but if it benefits the game definitely they should
Console warriorz <-- they NEED exclusives, it's like ammo in their holster. The less people that have access the better. A 3rd party game as an exclusive is like a WMD for that crowd.
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yurinka
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Kadokawa gave Sony 2% of their stock in exchange of Sony helping bring Kadokawa IPs to a global gaming and anime markets. Sony also made a minor investment on FromSoft to get part of their profits but too small to control them or require them do anything.
So the Sony shares on Kadokawa or FromSoft doesn't imply future exclusives but only to strengten their relationship and Sony getting part of their profits. But it isn't needed:
Since PS1 and basically on every PlayStation platform both Kadokawa and FromSoft published exclusives for a total of several dozens of exclusives. So it's fair to assume they'll continue making exclusives now that they have a bit closer relationship.
I personally would like to see Bloodborne 2 made or at least codeveloped or overviewed by FromSoft.
So the Sony shares on Kadokawa or FromSoft doesn't imply future exclusives but only to strengten their relationship and Sony getting part of their profits. But it isn't needed:
Since PS1 and basically on every PlayStation platform both Kadokawa and FromSoft published exclusives for a total of several dozens of exclusives. So it's fair to assume they'll continue making exclusives now that they have a bit closer relationship.
I personally would like to see Bloodborne 2 made or at least codeveloped or overviewed by FromSoft.
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Elder Legend
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It's also a validation thing. They are so insecure in their decision making that they need to be validated by fake video game pixels that their purchase was worth it and that they are smarter than anyone else on the planet for choosing the product they chose to buy.
TLDR - Small pee pee energy.
yazenov
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No, it won't be wiped out or written off as I'm sure they would be compensated for it and whatever lost potential sales would be offset by a truck full of cash.
However, the deal will be easier to negotiate the more dominant the PS5 will become and you will see more Sony exclusives. It's a similar situation with Final Fantasy 7 remake and Final Fantasy 16.
MasterCornholio
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If it's something like Bloodborne 2 I don't think there's anything anyone can do about that.
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