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How would you have written the ending for The Last of Us?

I would have written the guns out of the final fight and instead had Joel reveal that after all the shit went down with Sarah he actually spent five years in professional luchador wrestling instead of facing his grief, having left the career for good after being beaten and demasked in the title bout. He tears his clothing off revealing his luchador suit, leaves his bag and guns behind and instead wrestles his way all to Ellie, suplexing and body slamming the guards and tearing their masks off to leave them in shame.

After getting to Marlene with Ellie in his muscular wrestling hands, Marlene offers Joel to let him go with Ellie in case she gives him an autograph, saying that she remembers him. He promptly accepts and drives off. The remaining concious Fireflies eventually catch up with Marlene and proceed to ask her as to why she let Ellie and thus humanity's last hope go.

Marlene just turns her back to them, puts on her luchador mask, and replies: "They'll be back when he remembers.", and walks away with her luchador champion belt clearly visible for anyone to see.

This version would have made my GOTY list, Naughty Dog. You had your chance.
 

Qassim

Member
I think it went out like it should have done. The ending was a punch in the stomach for me, the realisation and Ellie's reaction (she wants to appear accepting to Joel) was a bit hard to swallow. You wanted things to be okay, but it wasn't okay. There were completely valid and understandable reasons as to why it wasn't okay, and what made it harder was that you could sympathise with Joel's actions.
 

NEO0MJ

Member
This version would have made my GOTY list, Naughty Dog. You had your chance.

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Tigress

Member
It bugs me when people say it's SUPPOSED to be disappointing and unsatisfying. OK fine, that doesn't make it immune to criticism because it was the intention. It was still a boring ending and too abrupt. It's like they wanted an ending where no one died, so they had to made the weak-ass resolution. Druck I know you're reading this, don't turn U4 in tlou.


I'm sorry, no, the ending was abrupt for a reason (You would probably hate the ending to Grapes of Wrath too which also was abrupt and purposely so, and not cause of laziness like you accuse).

That was part of its point. It's not a happy ending, it's not a hopeful ending, it leaves you standing there with nothing really resolved. But that's where these people are, there is no resolution, they're kinda of just stuck there surviving. The abrupt ending helps convey that better than trying to tie up loose ends. There's no real way to tie up loose ends, this world isn't that neat and it is certainly not that nice. The abrupt ending helps you feel the same way the people in this story do. It's not lazyness, it's perfect art and an ending that perfectly conveys the story they are trying to tell.
 
Woulda had a secondary "Let her be chopped up for science" ending. Joel despondent, slumping down against a wall, and starting to weep. Cut to credits.

Post credits scene, 2 years later. Joel's living with his brother. place looks pretty much the same.

knock on the door, Joel answers. It's Marlene. "We need to talk." Cut to black.
 

Kimosabae

Banned
Actually, it makes it better cause it adds in more greyness. Would killing her even have done anything?

No, it doesn't? Joel's behavior is easily justifiable if they've killed previous candidates with the viral immunity and came up empty-handed. How is it even a discussion at that point?
 

Tigress

Member
No, it doesn't? Joel's behavior is easily justifiable if they've killed previous candidates with the viral immunity and came up empty-handed. How is it even a discussion at that point?

Because we don't know if this would have worked or not. Maybe this time they did have a cure (I got the impression they thought Ellie was different than their previous subjects from the notes found. And I'm pretty sure I got them all cause I made a point. I am a stickler for finding story related notes even if I don't worry about other type collectables in games).

It creates this unknown that maybe it would have worked. But they weren't even close to certain. They just knew she was different than their previous experiments. But... their previous experiments hadn't shown helpful so on the other hand this might have been a waste too.
 

pager99

Member
Can anyone link me to the digital download in Amazon for TLOU as anytime I checkout it charges me for shipping. And changes to physical thanks
 

Jingo

Member
I would have a over the top twist: when they reach the hospital instead of grabbing ellie, they would grab joel cause he was the real cure, ellie was just a decoy working for the fireflies all this tine and had is bit on the arm faked, joel is in the bench ready to be operated slowly closing is eyes and the last thing he see is ellie feeling sad but with the determination that this had to be done, then they start to operate him and he says: not the bees, not the bees!!! And dies

The end.
 

BouncyFrag

Member
Joel becomes infected and you are then given the option to control Joel or Ellie in a fight to the death. As this scene goes down in a rundown frontier heritage museum, Ellie is armed with only a single shot muskett so the fight boils down to whether or not she can land the one and only bullet she has. To counter Joel's increased strength and rage, Ellie can summon a pack of fully sentient, mutated giraffes who can speak broken english to protect her. Once one of them falls, Joel wakes up on his couch having fallen asleep during a Walking Dead marathon on AMC in his lucky giraffe long johns.
 

Ermac

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I'm sorry, no, the ending was abrupt for a reason (You would probably hate the ending to Grapes of Wrath too which also was abrupt and purposely so, and not cause of laziness like you accuse).

That was part of its point. It's not a happy ending, it's not a hopeful ending, it leaves you standing there with nothing really resolved. But that's where these people are, there is no resolution, they're kinda of just stuck there surviving. The abrupt ending helps convey that better than trying to tie up loose ends. There's no real way to tie up loose ends, this world isn't that neat and it is certainly not that nice. The abrupt ending helps you feel the same way the people in this story do. It's not lazyness, it's perfect art and an ending that perfectly conveys the story they are trying to tell.

I don't think just because it's an unresolved ending it's "perfect art." Imagine if most game and movie endings were cut 15 minutes short and the devs/directors said "It's supposed to be unresolved bc that's how life is."
 

Tigress

Member
I don't think just because it's an unresolved ending it's "perfect art." Imagine if most game and movie endings were cut 15 minutes short and the devs/directors said "It's supposed to be unresolved bc that's how life is."

You miss the point that the ending fit the whole theme of that particular story. It felt cut short for a reason and not because they just cut off part of it. There was a point to the fact it was cut short.

It's a choice in how to end it and just cause it is unconventional does not make it bad or lazy. They meant to do it that way and I feel it fit the story perfectly along with the atmosphere they were trying to make.

No, it's not a good ending for every story so eyah, of course it wouldn't work if they just did that with any movie or game story (your point is silly). But then no ending fits every story right. But it was a good ending for that story.
 

Ermac

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You miss the point that the ending fit the whole theme of that particular story. It felt cut short for a reason and not because they just cut off part of it. There was a point to the fact it was cut short.

It's a choice in how to end it and just cause it is unconventional does not make it bad or lazy. They meant to do it that way and I feel it fit the story perfectly along with the atmosphere they were trying to make.

No, it's not a good ending for every story so eyah, of course it wouldn't work if they just did that with any movie or game story (your point is silly). But then no ending fits every story right. But it was a good ending for that story.

I still don't think it was a good ending for the story. But, let's agree to disagree.
 

Vlodril

Member
Funnily enough the last of us is the only game i can remember that although gave you no option to pick the choices of the heroes, it found me totally agreeable with almost every choice the characters made (except perhaps joel taking a bit more time to soften to ellie than i thought he would. all his other actions though where spot on from what i expected from the character).
 
I don't know what I would change. I just know I hated Joel's lie to Ellie, only because it was a dumb one and a million better lies could've been told. There is no possible way Ellie doesn't know Joel is lying, without me assuming Ellie is a complete moron.
 

Tigress

Member
I don't know what I would change. I just know I hated Joel's lie to Ellie, only because it was a dumb one and a million better lies could've been told. There is no possible way Ellie doesn't know Joel is lying, without me assuming Ellie is a complete moron.

I'm pretty sure they implied she did know. And she accepted the lie because she cared for Joel and accepted it for his sake and decided not to question it.

(this is one of the reasons I like the ending, there is so many ways you can interpret it. but I really do think Ellie knew he was lieing to her and knew he couldn't handle losing her so accepted his lie).
 

Bedlam

Member
It's perfect and satisfying as it is. I wouldn't have changed a thing.

How would you have ended it? Personally, I would have liked to see Ellie become a sacrifice/sacrifice herself consciously for a cure. Maybe Joel makes it to the operating room and while he initially tries to stop the procedure, he eventually gets to talk to Ellie and finds out that Ellie herself wants to push through with the procedure to make a cure, that she wants to help mankind and not let the sacrifices of everyone that helped them along the way (especially Tess) be in vain.

I'm sorry but that sounds terribly cliché.

I'm thankful that the game hasn't a typical "sacrifice"-ending because that's the first thing you'd expect.
 

OuterLimits

Member
Currently playing it again on PS4 and one the Winter portion I do have a question. When Ellie gets bitten by a Clicker or even Runner I think, black lines appear on her making it seem like she is quickly turning into one of the infected. Is that possible since she is immune? Maybe the answer is obvious and I missed it? Perhaps I am drawing the wrong conclusion completely. My apologies for going a bit off topic.

Overall In like the ending the way it is. Definitely makes you wonder what the future was like for Joel and Ellie.
 
Ellie and Joel are driving away from the hospital. He has saved her, and murdered the fireflies.

In the rearview mirror, Joel sees a car approaching. He lightly hits the gas pedal, trying to put a little distance between him and the car that follows. The car keeps gaining on him, it pulls up beside him.

Joel looks out the window and sees the last person he wants to see right now.

It is Vin Diesel. A relic from Joel's dark drift racing past.

Vin gives Joel a look that only says one thing. This challenge is on baby.
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Joel knows what he must do, Ellie has never seen him like this. The blood of a racer courses through his veins.

"I know you can do this Joel. The blood of a racer courses through your veins."

With Ellie's encouragement, Joel slams on the gas. He races Vin Diesel. Joel is faster than Vin Diesel. In fact, he is better than Vin Diesel in lots of ways.

He wins the race.

Ellie and Joel embrace, victorious. He holds her close, and whispers in her ear.

"You know, Elllie, we really are 2 fast 2 furious."

They cry.
People at work think I'm crying right now. But I'm actually laughing with tears in my eyes.
 

Upinsmoke

Member
I'm far from a fan of TLoU. But the story, ending included, is really good. It fits the world the game is set in.

Absolutely. It was the right ending ultimately. The journey Joel and ellie have been on, before they met and then what they went through together.
 

Fret

Member
They're in the hospital when you're sneaking around.

From what I remember playing about a week ago, the logs say that Ellie will absolutely cure the infection. That's the entire moral dilemma of the ending, right?

Edit: Here's the dialogue from the audio recorder:
"Marlene was right. The girl's infection is like nothing I've ever seen. ... We must find a way to replicate this state under laboratory conditions. We're about to hit a milestone in human history equal to the discovery of penicillin."
 
Ellie and Joel are driving away from the hospital. He has saved her, and murdered the fireflies.

In the rearview mirror, Joel sees a car approaching. He lightly hits the gas pedal, trying to put a little distance between him and the car that follows. The car keeps gaining on him, it pulls up beside him.

Joel looks out the window and sees the last person he wants to see right now.

It is Vin Diesel. A relic from Joel's dark drift racing past.

Vin gives Joel a look that only says one thing. This challenge is on baby.
giphy.gif


Joel knows what he must do, Ellie has never seen him like this. The blood of a racer courses through his veins.

"I know you can do this Joel. The blood of a racer courses through your veins."

With Ellie's encouragement, Joel slams on the gas. He races Vin Diesel. Joel is faster than Vin Diesel. In fact, he is better than Vin Diesel in lots of ways.

He wins the race.

Ellie and Joel embrace, victorious. He holds her close, and whispers in her ear.

"You know, Elllie, we really are 2 fast 2 furious."

They cry.
Congrats on making headlines. :)
 

Mephala

Member
The ending itself is fine but a little earlier I would make the Fireflies a little friendlier rather than being almost outright hostile towards Joel. They could have talked about it a bit better. I'd have liked to see Ellie's perspective but I guess that ruins the whole selfish Joel ending thing.
 

typist

Member
Would've at least had the option of an alternate ending where Joel acts for the greater good. He may have saved Ellie but he potentially sacrificed millions just like her in the same instant
 
didn't like the obvious lie.


if you wanna lie about something, act like you are really lying. joel should've watched heisenberg lie.


didn't like how ellie was like, "alrighty then." she had doubts, but in the end she just said, "fuck it."
 

Laughing Banana

Weeping Pickle
I don't like the ending.

I mean, I do understand what they're after, and how for some it can be perceived as powerful or characterized with terms like "deep" or "meaningful", but still, I don't like it.
 
Out of nowhere a star child appears offering you 3 choices and each one just adds a colour filter to the ending .

Or just as you get knocked out after saving Ellie from drowning have a to be continued message appear.
 
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