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How would you rate Phil Spencer as VP of Xbox so far?
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James Sawyer Ford
Member
Terrible
he needed a multi billion dollar bailout to salvage their first party situation
he needed a multi billion dollar bailout to salvage their first party situation
Kokoloko85
Member
Lol how about we dont wait and whats been proven so far?
Theres like 2 exclusives announced for the next year so far..... Great job phil for launching a new console.
Why dont you go play those 360 games and X1 that werent for you because thats all you got for now lol
SegaSnatcher
Member
He’s decent, but people give him way more credit than he deserves. Being better than Mattrick wasn’t a high bar.
SegaSnatcher
Member
100% guaranteed you’ll eventually buy a PS5 in the future. If you were a PS fan for the past gens then you wont be able to ignore the quality exclusives the PS5 will have.
Insane Metal
Member
Awful. Promises and promises all around, spinning and spinning and nothing meaninful, really.
Ok Gamepass... nice I guess?
Ok Gamepass... nice I guess?
DaleinCalgary
Member
Mostly full of promises and lies and failures, but he has headed some very good hardware releases.
Craig of War
Banned
He got Microsoft Xbox Parent Company to fully support the Xbox Brand that why they just spend 7.5 billion on Bethesda to booster Xbox first party studios so i give Phil a 9 actually if not for Phil Xbox might have been cancel by Microsoft already.
Esca
Member
I think he talks to much and with all the crap that comes out of his mouth it gets under a lot of people skin after a bit. The xsx launch is pathetic, he had the time to make sure they'd have games ready for launch, instead put all their eggs in 343i incapable hands.
I do think he has positioned Xbox for a better future even if i don't agree with the direction they are headed.
I do think he has positioned Xbox for a better future even if i don't agree with the direction they are headed.
Digital Gex
Banned
Crackdown 3 was Don Mattricks project with a ton of money and contracts on it which is why Phil couldn't out right Cancel it when he got promoted in 2016. The fact the game ended up being decent and not a broken trainwreck is thanks t Phils management but the while idea and point of the games, which was to push cloud power, along with Forza 5's drivatars, was something that was always half-baked from the Mattrick era, this includes Qunatum Break as well which was part of thedying TV strategy Mattrick and associates were still clinging on to.
DynamiteCop!
Banned
Phil Spencer is a double edged sword, no other way to frame him. He has made EVERY aspect of Xbox better, and I mean every aspect better than PlayStation with the exception of games.
They have the studios, they have the talent, there just needs to be execution. When they are able to do that there is literally no problem.
They have the studios, they have the talent, there just needs to be execution. When they are able to do that there is literally no problem.
Hawking Radiation
Member
Rating:
- Average.
Reasons:
- Poor planning for this upcoming generation with no first party offerings and relying on enhanced current gen games to start off the gen.
- Publicly states he dislikes console wars yet the fat fuck that is Aaron Greenberg will go and make sure Phil loses all credibility of his claims every time he tweets.
- His ability to get rid of the above tub lard that is Aaron Greenberg.
- Also Spencer is linked to FUD campaigners like Colt Eastwood, TimDog and Dealer.
This last part is the big reason for me. I lose more and more respect for Xbox due to the constant console war stoking from their links with these twitter console warriors and its especially amazing that Spencer actually engages with these guys. This is the reason I will never rate him highly.
- Average.
Reasons:
- Poor planning for this upcoming generation with no first party offerings and relying on enhanced current gen games to start off the gen.
- Publicly states he dislikes console wars yet the fat fuck that is Aaron Greenberg will go and make sure Phil loses all credibility of his claims every time he tweets.
- His ability to get rid of the above tub lard that is Aaron Greenberg.
- Also Spencer is linked to FUD campaigners like Colt Eastwood, TimDog and Dealer.
This last part is the big reason for me. I lose more and more respect for Xbox due to the constant console war stoking from their links with these twitter console warriors and its especially amazing that Spencer actually engages with these guys. This is the reason I will never rate him highly.
JimiNutz
Banned
Decent for me.
The good
-Big studio acquisitions
-Gamepass is great and will only get better
-Xbox Series X is a really nice piece of hardware and very affordable
-Backwards compatibility is great
The bad
-Exclusive software is still too infrequent and too often of mediocre quality
-Halo Infinite/343 is/are a disgrace. That game should have been ready at launch and looked incredible
-Still no VR support of any kind
-Xbox Series S is maybe a mistake
The good
-Big studio acquisitions
-Gamepass is great and will only get better
-Xbox Series X is a really nice piece of hardware and very affordable
-Backwards compatibility is great
The bad
-Exclusive software is still too infrequent and too often of mediocre quality
-Halo Infinite/343 is/are a disgrace. That game should have been ready at launch and looked incredible
-Still no VR support of any kind
-Xbox Series S is maybe a mistake
Explosive Zombie
Banned
He's a likeable guy but not sure he's gotten anything done?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I would give him a C- but only because D is probably two harsh for someone who commissioned two powerful consoles.
The problem is that his first party studios never did jack shit with those two powerful consoles. if it wasnt for RDR2, i literally wouldnt have beaten a single game on my x1x. I was dead set on buying an xsx after purchasing the x1 at launch. I am an idiot who buys consoles at launch because i like shiny new shit, but there is zero reason to buy an xsx. zero.
He's miserably failed the entire gen from the beginning of the gen in 2013 when he took over to today after the start of the new generation launching zero goty contenders. zero. in 7 years. these games dont even get nominated let alone win. i think sunset and titanfall are the only ones i would even consider as goty contenders but he had nothing to do with them. that was all don matrick.
and thats the thing, despite don launching a weak console at $499 with a focus on tv and kinect, he still had a somewhat decent lineup. I didnt touch that last gen trash GT6 on PS3 and bought forza 4 despite never even touching a forza game because it was actually next gen unlike gt6. ryse was awful, i hated playing it, but the graphics were stunning and i felt like i got my money's worth for this fancy new console. titanfall came out in the launch window and i loved it. sunset came out within a year, and I genuinely thought the MS got what makes console gaming special. exclusives. not just first party but third party as well.
but that was that. he cancelled fable, the original coalition game, scalebound, and spent the rest of the gen releasing mediocre gears, forza and halo games. and now we are looking at zero games in the next 2-3 years unless bethesda can get starfield out next year. even then, 1 game. 1.
no, he's failed at giving gamers games. consoles are a means to an end. they are the plate on which your food is served. you dont eat the fucking plate. and he simply doesnt get that.
The problem is that his first party studios never did jack shit with those two powerful consoles. if it wasnt for RDR2, i literally wouldnt have beaten a single game on my x1x. I was dead set on buying an xsx after purchasing the x1 at launch. I am an idiot who buys consoles at launch because i like shiny new shit, but there is zero reason to buy an xsx. zero.
He's miserably failed the entire gen from the beginning of the gen in 2013 when he took over to today after the start of the new generation launching zero goty contenders. zero. in 7 years. these games dont even get nominated let alone win. i think sunset and titanfall are the only ones i would even consider as goty contenders but he had nothing to do with them. that was all don matrick.
and thats the thing, despite don launching a weak console at $499 with a focus on tv and kinect, he still had a somewhat decent lineup. I didnt touch that last gen trash GT6 on PS3 and bought forza 4 despite never even touching a forza game because it was actually next gen unlike gt6. ryse was awful, i hated playing it, but the graphics were stunning and i felt like i got my money's worth for this fancy new console. titanfall came out in the launch window and i loved it. sunset came out within a year, and I genuinely thought the MS got what makes console gaming special. exclusives. not just first party but third party as well.
but that was that. he cancelled fable, the original coalition game, scalebound, and spent the rest of the gen releasing mediocre gears, forza and halo games. and now we are looking at zero games in the next 2-3 years unless bethesda can get starfield out next year. even then, 1 game. 1.
no, he's failed at giving gamers games. consoles are a means to an end. they are the plate on which your food is served. you dont eat the fucking plate. and he simply doesnt get that.
Lie again, Forza Horizon 4, Gears4/5 definitely took full advantage of the system's hardware. You may not like those games but they are extremely technically impressive.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
i played both of those games on pc at native 4k 60 fps, and they are not even in the same league as RDR2.
.Pennywise
Banned
I smell strong troll baits in that OP.
I've been warned for much less.
I've been warned for much less.
Wimbledon
Member
He's done a decent job but what will make him great is...
+Save Halo and make it a powerhouse once again.
+Have a stable collection of first-party games outside of the ones we already know
I'm not asking for much I just want great to masterpiece level games! MS can buy as many studios as they want, have as many services across several platforms as they want. But you still need to make quality games at the end of the day. Make this new era of Xbox memorable and hopefully great for gaming.
+Save Halo and make it a powerhouse once again.
+Have a stable collection of first-party games outside of the ones we already know
I'm not asking for much I just want great to masterpiece level games! MS can buy as many studios as they want, have as many services across several platforms as they want. But you still need to make quality games at the end of the day. Make this new era of Xbox memorable and hopefully great for gaming.
j0hnnix
Gold Member
How can you not agree he's not done an excellent job. The man is literally at Sega's door with check in hand. It's happening next week Wednesday.
Sure he did some minor things.
GamePass
Increased the amount of studio's
Created a loving character named Craig
Brought some light to the debacle of Xbox One
Brought in Final Fantasy Se....ries not 7remake.
Made sure Todd Howard has a fully stocked fridge.
Made an Xbox fridge to keep the PS5 cool.
So many more things.
Sure he did some minor things.
GamePass
Increased the amount of studio's
Created a loving character named Craig
Brought some light to the debacle of Xbox One
Brought in Final Fantasy Se....ries not 7remake.
Made sure Todd Howard has a fully stocked fridge.
Made an Xbox fridge to keep the PS5 cool.
So many more things.
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BaneIsPain
Member
Decent to good. Far better than his predecessor
Orthodox Gaming Dad
Member
aliadiere25
Member
It all depends on how much he spends.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Well, he's no Don Mattrick, let me tell you.
Nickolaidas
Member
I think he's done an amazing job, and at the same time a disastrous one.
Before him, X-Box was the constant receiver of butt-end jokes and memes of the 'only Halo/Gears/Forza' console. Now he currently has MS owning twice the studios Sony has.
On the other hand, he - at the same time - made X-Box completely obsolete to anyone who does decent PC Gaming. No true exclusives at all. Everything an X-Box has, a PC has as well, and can do better.
Game Pass offers tremendous value for money, but at the same time has many gamers worried about the future quality of the first-party titles.
He gave X-Box gamers the chance to say 'You will never play a new Elder Scrolls ever again, bitch,' to Sony gamers, yet at the same time he launched a next-gen console without a single next-gen game.
So ... I don't know what to say about his current contribution to MS, other than 'He's being incredibly capable and incredibly incompetent at the same time'.
Before him, X-Box was the constant receiver of butt-end jokes and memes of the 'only Halo/Gears/Forza' console. Now he currently has MS owning twice the studios Sony has.
On the other hand, he - at the same time - made X-Box completely obsolete to anyone who does decent PC Gaming. No true exclusives at all. Everything an X-Box has, a PC has as well, and can do better.
Game Pass offers tremendous value for money, but at the same time has many gamers worried about the future quality of the first-party titles.
He gave X-Box gamers the chance to say 'You will never play a new Elder Scrolls ever again, bitch,' to Sony gamers, yet at the same time he launched a next-gen console without a single next-gen game.
So ... I don't know what to say about his current contribution to MS, other than 'He's being incredibly capable and incredibly incompetent at the same time'.
longdi
Banned
Xbox and PC are all under MS.
It doesnt matter no?
In fact, Phil goal is to reach as wide an audience as possible. This imo is the future for games distribution and enjoyment.
That's why some people may, understandably, have hestitations of Phil in what they see now, but the results and changes will sprout in the next 2 years.
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Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
He needs to keep Xbox games on the Xbox platform and nowhere else. That is just good business sense.
F
Foamy
Unconfirmed Member
Phil's a glorified vacuum salesman.
Does he even play games?
Does he even play games?
Zuzu
Member
I think he's been good in a lot of areas, but I would like to see him develop a bit more of an old fashioned competitive culture with regards to motivating his first parties to develop first party games that can take on the best from Sony and Nintendo. I'd like to see him or or his management team push the first parties to produce games that are at the top of their respective genres with an aim to compete with the best of the best in the industry. Sometimes I feel like the Microsoft culture is a little too friendly.
MastaKiiLA
Member
Some strange metrics in this thread. His performance should be based on success of the business. That's revenue, profits, and marketshare. How has he performed in those areas during his tenure as VP?
Also, since he's VP, does that mean there's someone above him even more accountable for the performance of the business? Shouldn't they get the same or even more scrutiny? I'm not sure how to rate him. I just thought I'd comment on some strange measurements of success.
Also, since he's VP, does that mean there's someone above him even more accountable for the performance of the business? Shouldn't they get the same or even more scrutiny? I'm not sure how to rate him. I just thought I'd comment on some strange measurements of success.
Why would you like it better if people on pc couldn't play xbox games? I dont get that thinking.
Nickolaidas
Member
Yeeeaaah, I ... guess you are right. I mean, he only wants 15 bucks from me per month, he doesn't care whether I game on xbox or pc.Xbox and PC are all under MS.
It doesnt matter no?
In fact, Phil goal is to reach as wide an audience as possible. This imo is the future for games distribution and enjoyment.
That's why some people may, understandably, have hestitations of Phil in what they see now, but the results and changes will sprout in the next 2 years.
I'm just saying that he turned xbox from games console to 'a cheap pc which plays game pass games'. There is literally no real reason to get an xbox if you have a powerful pc, while there is a reason to buy a ps5* despite having the strongest pc in all the land.
*for now, at least
30yearsofhurt
Member
7 craigs out of 5
Kagey K
Banned
If you look at the revenue growth charts since he became head, it has been significant, and that was all before that buyout.
No matter what we think of him, he definitely has investors confidence in a market they barely give a shit about.
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Concern
Member
Not that they weren't. But some focus back on their own hardware would nice. Not every single game needs to be on pc.
Tschumi
Member
.. look, he's had to make a ton of decisions and statements based off compensating for PS dominating the market.
He's been inflammatory, misleading, and used hyperbole only to be shown up ("[I feel good after the Sony reveal]" > Halo Infinite | TFLOPs omg > TFLOPs mean next to nothing | 4k60 gaming > no 4k60 games to date have looked better than last gen 1440p games) and thrown money around in a manner that is almost certainly going to bite him in the ass (after what happened with 343, there's surely a risk of Bethesda , who are already pretty iffy, getting really sidetracked...)
I find it hard to believe gamepass is as utopian as he presents it, i think it's going to be a mess of micro-transactions.
But the net result is he's got a portion of GAF users really intense about his system - and i assume some people outside of GAF - and you have to say that's a success. Xbox undoubtedly got more people to buy in to it on the back of his work than it might have had if they just slipped right into it from one x.
He's been fighting an insurgency, and you've gotta hand it to him - a brash, frat boy 'murican is a pretty good candidate to lead such a cocksure, if flawed, marketing campaign.
He's been inflammatory, misleading, and used hyperbole only to be shown up ("[I feel good after the Sony reveal]" > Halo Infinite | TFLOPs omg > TFLOPs mean next to nothing | 4k60 gaming > no 4k60 games to date have looked better than last gen 1440p games) and thrown money around in a manner that is almost certainly going to bite him in the ass (after what happened with 343, there's surely a risk of Bethesda , who are already pretty iffy, getting really sidetracked...)
I find it hard to believe gamepass is as utopian as he presents it, i think it's going to be a mess of micro-transactions.
But the net result is he's got a portion of GAF users really intense about his system - and i assume some people outside of GAF - and you have to say that's a success. Xbox undoubtedly got more people to buy in to it on the back of his work than it might have had if they just slipped right into it from one x.
He's been fighting an insurgency, and you've gotta hand it to him - a brash, frat boy 'murican is a pretty good candidate to lead such a cocksure, if flawed, marketing campaign.
CrysisFreak
Banned
I think looking at his actions there is no need to be upset.
Vyndktvx
Neo Member
He completely rebuilt Xbox first party, convinced the higher ups to invest fully in Xbox with Game Pass, and prioritized power for next gen. He’s clearly failed when it comes to 343, but this mocking question of “where are the games?” is just stupid. This isn’t 5 years age where all Xbox had was 3-4 studios making Halo, Gears, Forza. There’s a bunch of games coming, Hellblade, Avowed, Fable, all of Bethesda’s games. And a lot of the stuff they’re making is new IP.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
He made me switch from PS4 to XSX, so he's probably doing pretty good.
Vyndktvx
Neo Member
Did you miss the butthurt here and elsewhere on the Internet? Newsflash: Most people don’t have powerful PCs. Most PS owners only have a PS. Most PC players are on toasters or even fucking laptops. That’s why there’s so much coping about Bethesda. It wouldn’t be a problem if everyone on GAF had powerful PCs like they pretend they do.
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Phil Spencer need to resign. Someone need to step up . Slot of things he did prove he is not a leader anymore.
He approved halo showing at event with game not ready for public. If a good leader will not show this.
He approved the first event back then which bomb really hard. If he see the quality he will stop it . Refine it
xbox market share reducing compare to competitor
The new xbox showing keep on show old games after old games. We need show xsx gameplay .
Basically they going forward via game pass services.
He approved halo showing at event with game not ready for public. If a good leader will not show this.
He approved the first event back then which bomb really hard. If he see the quality he will stop it . Refine it
xbox market share reducing compare to competitor
The new xbox showing keep on show old games after old games. We need show xsx gameplay .
Basically they going forward via game pass services.
DaleinCalgary
Member
Doubt it, or he would have known how bad Halo is and done something about it.
SoraNoKuni
Member
Well, he made xbox a gaas platform.
The answer is pretty much obvious.
The answer is pretty much obvious.
cireza
Banned
Good but needs to get more support from Japan.
Green-lighting a console such as the Series S requires balls, I will admit that. And it is a great move.
His dedication to BC is also a fantastic thing.
And he has been improving relations with all publishers, including Japanese ones.
Excellent hardware.
And of course Game Pass.
So there are many good things that came from him, but there is still room for improvement in some topics.
Green-lighting a console such as the Series S requires balls, I will admit that. And it is a great move.
His dedication to BC is also a fantastic thing.
And he has been improving relations with all publishers, including Japanese ones.
Excellent hardware.
And of course Game Pass.
So there are many good things that came from him, but there is still room for improvement in some topics.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
He's done phenomenal except in one spot.
He had years to get the launch of the Series X right, and it's more drought.
He had years to get the launch of the Series X right, and it's more drought.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
and what about what really matters, profit?
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