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HTC Vive international prices leaked (899 / £689)
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Chû Totoro;196997762 said:
That's just being silly.
How about this: PSVR owners will be very happy to have experiences that are close to what PCVR offers, at a fraction of the entry price.
If someone has a PS4 and not a gaming PC, they've already made the choice that they are happy with a Toyota rather than a Lamborghini. Adding VR onto that is a pointless comparison really - I doubt many people are suddenly going to throw their PS4 in the trash and soend $1500+ on a PC+OR.
PodcastFips
Member
Yes, they vary extraordinarily little compared to sports cars.
Also, range of motion and the admitted hardware you mentioned do not even influence the price.
The comparison is just silly.
TrueOutlook
Neo Member
Considering that the Oculus Rift in Australia is supposed to be around $1200 dollars, I think pricing the Vive at $1300 would be optimistic. To be completely honest, I'm expecting it to be around $1500 - $1700 in Australia.
Looks like importing is the way to go.
metareferential
Member
Reactions to these prices are always amusing.
The PC space is filled with incredibly expensive peripherals. Just look at monitors or special controllers.
And I find also funny those "I'll wait for gen2" comments. Wake up, it's not like the second iteration will be introduced at a much cheaper price.
Best we could hope for is a 10% difference. Just look at how other tech devices are sold (iPad, Surface, high-end smartphones, etc.).
If the tech bar is raised iteration after iteration, unless some magical breakthrough revolutionize everything, prices will stay the same.
And yes, I know a lot of people would like to buy this new shiny toy. But it's better to read angry posts than having a sub-par device sold at an acceptable (by whose standards anyway?) price.
Just my two cents. Mass adoption will come with time.
The PC space is filled with incredibly expensive peripherals. Just look at monitors or special controllers.
And I find also funny those "I'll wait for gen2" comments. Wake up, it's not like the second iteration will be introduced at a much cheaper price.
Best we could hope for is a 10% difference. Just look at how other tech devices are sold (iPad, Surface, high-end smartphones, etc.).
If the tech bar is raised iteration after iteration, unless some magical breakthrough revolutionize everything, prices will stay the same.
And yes, I know a lot of people would like to buy this new shiny toy. But it's better to read angry posts than having a sub-par device sold at an acceptable (by whose standards anyway?) price.
Just my two cents. Mass adoption will come with time.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Depends on the state and municipality. Where I live it's 6%. Other places it can be as high as 15% or as low as 0%. Buying digital is always 0% and buying online can typically be 0% depending if the place you buy it from has operations in your state. For example, Amazon opened up distribution centers in Pennsylvania the last few years so now I get charged sales tax on anything shipping from those centers. If anything ships from out of state I don't pay sales tax.
family_guy
Member
Not always. Nintendo eshop charges tax.
SuperBanana
Banned
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Taxes aren't the only differentiator for price. In Europe you get two year full warranty, in the US it's what, 90 days? That cost factor is of course considered when setting a price. And you have to anticipate future currency conversion rates, price isn't decided on by todays conversion rates.
Chû Totoro
Member
Yeah it's not that accurate but saying that a big budget gaming PC with Vive will offer the same possibilities as PS4 + PS VR is just being blind.
Games will make the difference but PC has a good point here, now if you want to counter balance maybe PC bad point will be the fragmented user base with lots of different configurations (both VR platform and PC) making things more complicated for devs than going for a simpler route on PS4.
There's now an official blog post with the international pricing. They've also announced that Tilt Brush will be included with every pre-order.
http://blog.htcvive.com/us/2016/02/international-pricing-for-vive-pre-order/
http://blog.htcvive.com/us/2016/02/international-pricing-for-vive-pre-order/
kenjigreat
Banned
Chû Totoro;196997762 said:
If it had 4k Output and Foveated Rendering, I'd say the Lambo analogy would work. I have the money for a rift and I don't care about roomscale but they cancelled my order because or 'shipping'.
Is this the first time we've seen that they're starting to ship on April 5th, too? I'd only seen April before, and kind of assumed it'd start at the end (because of general pessimism)
loganclaws
Plane Escape Torment
You should be looking into which product has a better software library.
Neat!
Both Tilt Brush and Job Simulator are amazing fun, but Tilt Brush is something really spectacular that I could definitely spend an insane amount of time with since it is so open ended to creativity.
Everything I've seen of Fantastic Contraption also seems like a lot of fun with the freedom to be silly with creations. Walking around even just a bit is so powerful, and building things with that seems ideal.
We don't really have enough information on that right now.
It SEEMS like the Oculus Rift games are actually only tied to the Oculus store, with them saying they're not restricting headsets at all, just the storefront, but that some developers might not code their games to play with OpenVR (so, Vive)
On the other hand, at launch at least, room scale games are only going to work with Vive, but it could be shockingly quick that the Rift is expanded to allow room scale. I'm sort of expecting it to happen when Oculus Touch comes out later this year (which I still think is a fucking stupid decision on Oculus' part)
...essentially, we just don't know. Even if games AREN'T made to be compatible with one or the other headset, unless it's because of a feature like room scale or motion controls being manditory, it shouldn't be that hard for the community to get a hack together for cross compatibility, which people are expecting to happen pretty quickly.
We'll see, basically.
Yep. I've tried comparing the two on various fronts - each has different advantages and I dunno which ones I think I care about more.
It's an impossible task right now, which is why it's a little silly that people are already taking sides.
There's a lot of petulant people talking about what massive dickheads Oculus are for locking things down (it's easy to get caught up in it with so little real info) but they don't really know how much it IS locked down. I sort of suspect Oculus aren't being that bad but are being cagey because they want as many pre-orders as possible
There's also a lot of Rift fans talking shit about Vive and how it's not getting any games, etc etc.
Just keep an open mind & put a pre-order on the one you like the look of better, if you want. I'm literally only going with the Vive because I can get it sooner. I think both products are going to be amazing.
Lemonte
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artsi
Member
Maybe, but if those games are important I would not buy Vive only based on this possibility, as it hasn't been done yet once. Might take some time.
I'm still thinking if I'll pre-order Vive tomorrow, or wait until later this year. I want to get both eventually but there's other things I could use 899 for now.
It hasn't been taken down.
Lemonte
Member
oh.. page wont load for me and gives an error...
Cool, Tiltbrush looks nuts. Can't justify a purchase at that price still, so I hope somebody around here will give demos. The room scale tracking looks just so fantastic.
SpinningBirdKick
Banned
V.R. D.O.A.
There's going to be alot of buyer's remorse at those price points.
I guess we can kiss mass market adoption of VR goodbye again too.
There's going to be alot of buyer's remorse at those price points.
I guess we can kiss mass market adoption of VR goodbye again too.
and $599 was a reasonable price for the PS3/bluray player combo in 2006
It was still a flop. And this will be a much bigger one.
Hey look, its another gaf VR thread with 90% of people not knowing anything about VR!
It's almost as if Oculus and HTC aren't targeting the mass market with these prices, and only to enthusiasts! Wow! Imagine that!
kenjigreat
Banned
You need a Great PC to power it too.
I ordered the Oculus Rift and have a pretty beast PC. Now my order is cancelled thanks to freightfowarding.
Vive doesn't ship to my country and I'm too annoyed to order again if they plan on cancelling my order in a month.
Thanks for annoying part of the already the small target market.
I'm the target market with a PC and 1000$ to blow on tech, but they decided to say nope can't ship.
I'm on the fence about ordering again just to have another cancel.
Well that sucks, but it's just unlucky
kenjigreat
Banned
Honestly though they are already targeting a small market but still wanting to find ways to create doubt or just annoy them.
I was already prepared to spend 100$ on my own shipping after paying for the base 30$USD shipping.
Now I'm like F it.
None of these shipping prices for the two already costly headsets are enticing. It's more of the I have no choice but to put up type deal.
Wrestlemania
Banned
£57.60 shipping in UK. Holy christ.
Yautja_Warrior
Member
Yeah this confirms I will not be getting VR on PC in 2016.
Balls in Sony's court now then, £349 or under and I'm in, any more and I will wait.
Balls in Sony's court now then, £349 or under and I'm in, any more and I will wait.
Tainted
Member
Here in Aus, if it ends up being anything over $500aud ...I'll probably steer clear as well. A device which costs more than the console itself would be a pretty hard sell for many imo
The difference is, they have expectations in check.
They've been repeating this for 2 years now.
Sony was expecting to sell PS3s to everyone and their grannies.
Dark Matter
Neo Member
So, now Lighthouse (the tracking system that allows for a larger tracking volume and less occlusion) costs as much as a camera? The things you learn on NeoGAF....