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Hundreds Of Newspapers Denounce Trump's Attacks On Media In Coordinated Editorials

Mochilador

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I have completely lost trust in the media (at least in my country, Brazil).
They are supposed to give us real information, be neutral, but that's not what happens.
They have an agenda and they mix the news with their own ideology, trying to push their own narrative.
 

AaronB

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In Turkey, Erdogan has virtually eliminated all media outlets critical of him.

I'll be concerned about Trump when he's actually closing media outlets or forcibly changing their editorial positions.

When maybe 80% of major news outlets are opposing Trump, I think the bigger danger is a bias in one direction so pervasive and severe that it can't be trusted.
 

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To prove we're not a partisan cabal we've decided that we all should, at the same time, release editorials as a group with the exact same message and similar vocabulary.
 

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"Trump claims we're colluding to try to hurt/attack him. The nerve! We can't let him get away with this. How do we address this and assert/prove our innocence? I know! Let's collude to try to hurt/attack him across over 300 outlets in a coordinated stunt."

EDIT: Looks like Corderlain Corderlain already said basically the same thing a few posts above.
 
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I find this idea that free press means they can never be criticized or insulted to be baffling
 
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If one is honest about it a group of media outlets working together to disparage Trump would look exactly the same as a bunch of independent media outlets doing factual reporting about Trump.

He's doing/saying these things regardless of how one outlet or another slants their coverage of it. Most of his lies are in video, audio, and/or tweet form. You don't need to slant any of them, they're simply lies. Nobody expects politicians to tell the truth all the time but you can't expect Trump to tell the truth any of the time. I find it curious that people who know this choose to believe he is telling the truth when he tells them what they want to hear.

That's why late night shows love Trump, he writes the jokes for them. He contradicts practically every position he ever takes, sometimes in the same sentence. Almost everything he ragged on previous presidents for doing he himself now does. Remember how many times he cried about Obama playing golf three times in one year? LOL. His stance on immigration? Hmm, I guess his wives are exempt. His holy roller running mate? Guess Pastor Pence is just fine with adultery as long as it is his running mate.

Trump is an old rich racist sexist white male compulsive lying wannabe dictator. If you think that that is presidential material I feel sorry for you. If you think any of those traits are imagined by an adversarial press I feel sorry for you. If you think he cares about anybody besides himself, I feel sorry for you.

tldr; Trumps actions speak for themselves and directly to his character.
 

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When did Trump attack the media? As far as I can tell, he merely criticized them...
 

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"We don't collude guys, and we don't hate the president, and we are going to prove it by ...publicly colluding to say the same thing, on the same day, at the same time about how much we hate the president." "pie_tears_joy:

Totally not proving Trump's argument.

They've fully embraced their role as propaganda engines.

Edit: Shit I'm late. Props to Cordelain
 
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monegames

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If one is honest about it a group of media outlets working together to disparage Trump would look exactly the same as a bunch of independent media outlets doing factual reporting about Trump.

He's doing/saying these things regardless of how one outlet or another slants their coverage of it. Most of his lies are in video, audio, and/or tweet form. You don't need to slant any of them, they're simply lies. Nobody expects politicians to tell the truth all the time but you can't expect Trump to tell the truth any of the time. I find it curious that people who know this choose to believe he is telling the truth when he tells them what they want to hear.

That's why late night shows love Trump, he writes the jokes for them. He contradicts practically every position he ever takes, sometimes in the same sentence. Almost everything he ragged on previous presidents for doing he himself now does. Remember how many times he cried about Obama playing golf three times in one year? LOL. His stance on immigration? Hmm, I guess his wives are exempt. His holy roller running mate? Guess Pastor Pence is just fine with adultery as long as it is his running mate.

Trump is an old rich racist sexist white male compulsive lying wannabe dictator. If you think that that is presidential material I feel sorry for you. If you think any of those traits are imagined by an adversarial press I feel sorry for you. If you think he cares about anybody besides himself, I feel sorry for you.

tldr; Trumps actions speak for themselves and directly to his character.
All of this is true, and still the Media takes his quotes out of context on many occasions to try and make him look worse than he actually is. They just can't help themselves which makes them look bad when those things come to light. The biggest example of that is the whole Animals quote. They edited the video to make it look like he was talking about all immigrants, when the conversation was specifically about MS13. If they just let him talk its damning enough, but they can't and have shown that they won't. The fake news stuff is a self inflicted wound by the media. All they had to do was let him talk and report on his actual words.
 

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has anyone said it was a crime for the media to do this? Pretty sure people are saying they are proving him right by doing this.
I just find it funny that he and Giuliani went on a little media blitz awhile ago about how Collusion isn't a crime and how its no big deal and then he immediately accuses other people of doing it.
 

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From leftie Jimmy dorre show about exactly this subject. Really amazing commentary

 

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Most local newspapers are owned by some daddy corporation too. So yeah, it makes sense they'd do this. My local newspaper did this so I looked up that lovely alt-right-trash vs. Antifa goof from Unite the Right # 2 and the paper was defending Antifa still. And that's why Trump is correct: fake news and—reminding those who hate corporations—CORPORATE NEWS companies are absolutely an enemy of the average people. If a teacher was telling kids "oxygen isn't real", you'd say that person if an enemy to school children the same way.
 

Dontero

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Here is another beauty from Jimmie, it is not exactly about why people hate media but goes perfectly into it

 

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In Turkey, Erdogan has virtually eliminated all media outlets critical of him.

I'll be concerned about Trump when he's actually closing media outlets or forcibly changing their editorial positions.

When maybe 80% of major news outlets are opposing Trump, I think the bigger danger is a bias in one direction so pervasive and severe that it can't be trusted.
Look at this way, look at how Trump got called out for comments about Ivanka and how it was creepy, rightfully so they were kinda creepy. The "grab her by the pussy" line is also sleazy but at least that was in the context of a private conversation.

But where was the media when they gave Joe Biden a pass for acting inappropriate around children? Where were they when Biden would jokingly ask for a "private photo" with a senator's young daughter? Some of the shit he's been caught doing is unbelievable.

I'm all for the media being critical of public officials but don't show preferences.

Granted some outlets did call him out slightly like Time. http://time.com/3713264/joe-biden-stephanie-carter-shoulder-rub/
 

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Media darling Ocasio Cortez, meanwhile bans them from covering her latest event...... crickets.

The double standards are just so ridiculous atm.
 

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That was exceptional. Thank you for posting. Jimmy Dorre just earned a new subscriber. I'm always on the hunt for good sources of political commentary to help cut through the bullshit.
Ditto. Did not know about this guy before, refreshing to hear from a real liberal.
 
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I hold don't hold Trump to any high regard. I hold the mainstream media even lower. This is some grade a horse shit. It really feels like they are trying to become the "correct" voice at a pivital moment in history when it is more the case that they are just creating mistrust and division.
 
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oagboghi2

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We are calling them hypocrites, not criminals.


I know you guys are juggling a lot of conspiracy theories right now....but try to keep up.
 

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All of this is true, and still the Media takes his quotes out of context on many occasions to try and make him look worse than he actually is. They just can't help themselves which makes them look bad when those things come to light. The biggest example of that is the whole Animals quote. They edited the video to make it look like he was talking about all immigrants, when the conversation was specifically about MS13. If they just let him talk its damning enough, but they can't and have shown that they won't. The fake news stuff is a self inflicted wound by the media. All they had to do was let him talk and report on his actual words.
This. Trump is perfectly capable of looking like a schmuck all on his own. Just browse his twitter feed on any given day. It is wall to wall shitposting and trolling.

But their monumental hate boner rages so hard that they just really can't help themselves. They constantly spin his comments and take him out of context deliberately, in the process destroying their own credibility. The extent to which Trump rails against them relentlessly is definitely somewhat unprofessional, and unbecoming of a president. But he's not wrong.
 

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Not a good look
This doesn't really exonerate them of Trump's fake news canard, the 4th estate seems to flex their muscle out of fear for an erdogite line of policy .
 

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"We don't collude guys, and we don't hate the president, and we are going to prove it by ...publicly colluding to say the same thing, on the same day, at the same time about how much we hate the president." "pie_tears_joy:

Totally not proving Trump's argument.

They've fully embraced their role as propaganda engines.

Edit: Shit I'm late. Props to Cordelain
Collusion would imply secrecy, right?
It's more like... collaboration :)
 

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From leftie Jimmy dorre show about exactly this subject. Really amazing commentary
Always glad to see someone being critical of the media, but he really needs to stop using the word "gaslighting" to mean lying.


Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation that seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or in members of a targeted group, making them question their own memory, perception, and sanity.
That doesn't fit the description of what he was talking about at all.
 

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Collusion would imply secrecy, right?
It's more like... collaboration :)
Lol ok then all the other times in which they didnt make it public it was collusion.
I faintly remember basically all msm craping out stories at the literal same day all with variations of "Trumps dark acceptance speech, Trumps dark vision for america" etc it was really really fucking mental thinking back on it now.
 

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Always glad to see someone being critical of the media, but he really needs to stop using the word "gaslighting" to mean lying.




That doesn't fit the description of what he was talking about at all.
How it doesn't ? They lie because they are trying to gaslight their own people. They are trying to make them fear Russia etc to vote for them. Textbook definition of gaslighting.
 

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Wish these same newspapers would raise concern about the corporate manipulation of our media. Wonder how many of them belong to the same handful of media conglomerates... the irony here is delicious.

But hey, Trump is da bad dude and if we stopz him, WE GUNNA WIN DA NAYSHUN!

Seriously sounds like a bunch of stupid Orcs pretending they know how a Western society should run.
I guess Trump's companies are involved in media advertisement funding as well
 

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"Dehumanizing language."

.....🤔
*Logs onto Twitter account*
*Looks at blue checkmark journalists *
*See's reams and reams of journalist tweets insulting the president, his supporters and anyone who disagrees with their politics."

It's amazing how much bullshit that lady can spin in 4 minutes.
 

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The media: Trump did this, and this, and this, and this. Ate two scoops of ice cream. Everyone else gets one. (all sources post in unison)

Trump: "The media is dishonest, and pushing an agenda"

The left: "OMG. FACISM. I CAN'T EVEN"
 

prag16

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I'm pretty sure the left (the vocal 'alt-left' at least) has no real idea what fascism actually is. Ironically, their mirror would give them a better idea in some ways than the people and the things that they typically rail against.
 
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Since when is valid criticism considered an attack? I wish I too could say whatever I pleased without any repercussions and if someone dared challenge me I could play victim and claim to be attacked.
 

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This thread didn't age well LOL.

Nice to see it bumped back up.

When the press is selling you lies that the President is a Russian spy, or that MAGA hat kids are trying to lynch innocent black preacher while mocking a native man by chanting build that wall, and that Jussi Smollett was attacked in a modern day lynching I think its fair to call the press the enemy of the people.
 

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it is so funny that the media says Trump is responsible for Fake News, while Fake News is what they traffic in. the truth is the desire for Trump content is all-consuming, there is not enough of it, it must be teased out, shit needs to be straight made up. there results this weird psycho-cultural simultaneous fetishization and hatred of him, symbolized in the pee tape, that fictional Holy Sacrament created from pure air as pretend oppo research done by an out of work British intelligence operative.

Trump is sold by the media like any modern product, marketed not towards the people who like him, but the people who hate the people who like him.

he has been in the business for decades, not just as a businessman but in front of the camera, he has a talent for acting, or at least in projecting a sort of confidence that is generally attractive to people. the media knows this, this is why they helped create him, why they talk so much about him. they profit off him and they want to profit off him more. in big business is it not sufficient to simply make a profit continuously, they expect GROWTH, so things have to get more more more.

one often hears from media zealots that the problem is that more people aren't watching the "right" TV shows. more people aren't subscribed to the right Youtube channels, or the right message boards. "more people should be watching John Oliver & Samantha Bee". the TV hosts themselves request that their audience go out and evangelize for their ad buys. the solution is always: more media, which is hilariously as far from "socialism" or "anti-capitalism" as any of these nitwits could hope to imagine.
 
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prag16

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Man, some of these posts in here REALLY didn't age well. Luckily for me, my posts in this thread aged just fine.
 

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A free press isn’t free to mislead the public. Part of being a responsible journalist is fact checking your sources. You don’t just get to have people say shit unchallenged, they have to provide some kind of proof. That the media needs to circle the wagons and wank each other off is fucking pathetic and sad.