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Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 |OT|: By the Power of Inafune!
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Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
I got the LE Yesterday and I put around 6 hours on the game so far. Here are my thoughts:
The Good: The in-game graphics are better, the industry shares system makes sense, quests are better designed, and the battles are better.
The Bad: Not as much "funny" skits that lampoon anime and VG's, it is REALLY easy to accidentally disengage HDD mode, and some aliasing.
The Ugly: The blatant fanservice is REALLY bad in this game, the first 10 minutes you already get an eyeful of it.
The Good: The in-game graphics are better, the industry shares system makes sense, quests are better designed, and the battles are better.
The Bad: Not as much "funny" skits that lampoon anime and VG's, it is REALLY easy to accidentally disengage HDD mode, and some aliasing.
The Ugly: The blatant fanservice is REALLY bad in this game, the first 10 minutes you already get an eyeful of it.
You should change "The Ugly" part to "The Awesome". Those first 10 minutes was awesome as hell imo.
I see IF x Nepgear going places.
"The Bad: Not as much "funny" skits that lampoon anime and VG's"
there will be, some really good bits about the industry in general and stuff that's happened over the last few years
I finished it for the first time last night, only got the normal ending and seem to have locked myself out of getting anything better because of the shares and lack of quests to change them, oh well, on to new game+
there will be, some really good bits about the industry in general and stuff that's happened over the last few years
I finished it for the first time last night, only got the normal ending and seem to have locked myself out of getting anything better because of the shares and lack of quests to change them, oh well, on to new game+
Does that mean you can still lose shares if you die?
no, every quest that raises shares for one side decreases it for another side, so if you end up with 40% planeptune and 60% leanbox in planeptune and dont have any quests in planeptune that increase planeptune while decreasing leanbox you can no longer alter the shares
Master Milk
Member
In the first one you could repeat quests and they'd move shares. Can't do that this time?
you can repeat quests as many times as you want yeah, but there's shares for a bunch of towns, so you need a quest from that town to change the shares in thast specific town and you can only increase the share if there's a corresponding share to lower, doing planeptune + 10 arfoire - 10 quests wont increase planeptune if arfoire is already at 0
Oh...my...god. I hate shares. It was one of the few things I hated in the first one and now you can't even alter shares if you do them all?
there's more quests available on new game+ which cover the possibilities that can lock you out in your first playthrough
I'm not quite as familiar with MK2's shares as I am the first one but they are pretty much reputation points for each of the four landmasses. You gain a certain amount of increase and decrease in shares of landmasses depending on what ranked dungeon quest you do. In order to get other goddesses in your party you need to achieve a certain amount of shares for that goddess landmass. Its a pain imo because you'll have to drastically decrease the shares of other landmasses in order to boost the particular landmass you want the goddess from. Also, certain events are only activated if you achieve a certain amount of shares in a landmass (events that usually consist of Gust or NISA). I pretty much got to see all of the events related to them and every other goddess sans White Heart and the True Ending in my first go so I lucked out compared to others. About 94% Event Completion by the end of the Normal Ending.
There is some other major issues with shares imo in the first one. You could lose shares permanantly if Neptune or any other goddess die at any time or if you leave a ranked dungeon. If you lose enough shares permanently, you won't be able to get any other goddess and have to wait for New Game +. It seriously became my biggest pet peeve in this game, but luckily, defending and abusing the heck out of Neptune Break will get you through the game easy without dying.
Enjoying this a bit, although at first with the framerate and battle system. . . If Nep1 was worse than this lololol. That said, battle system's gotten a little more fun as it's expanded. I'm really debating going to play dub only. . . Compa drives me nuts in japanese lol. So fucking highpitched.
I like the dub for Neptunia personally...then again, I primarily prefer dubs over subs so take that for what you will.
Nepgear English voice actress sounds like Noel Vermillion's voice actress.
I like the dub for Neptunia personally...then again, I primarily prefer dubs over subs so take that for what you will.
Nepgear English voice actress sounds like Noel Vermillion's voice actress.
Noel's VA actually plays Compa, and I think she's one of the best characters in the dub when I cant stand her in japanese
I did a quick wiki search and...damn she voices both Compa and Nepgear. Wow, Cristina Vee is busy. She is quickly being one of my favorite English voice actress aside from Laura Bailey.
I don't understand Japanese so I don't select the option the use it and I generally don't have an opinion on whether its good or bad though but this is one of the few times I've seen someone not care for Japanese voice acting for a character.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
I have played the game for around 20 hours so far, is it me or is the game's difficult balance a lot more....unbalanced compared to the original game.
In the original game I just went through the dungeon and beat the boss, with this game I actually needed to grind a couple of times to beat bosses that were insanely hard.
Character spoiler:
She is also the voice of Mio from K-On, Homura from Madoka Magica and Saki from AT3.
In the original game I just went through the dungeon and beat the boss, with this game I actually needed to grind a couple of times to beat bosses that were insanely hard.
Character spoiler:
5pb and NISA are awesome party members, they are lots of fun in battle
I did a quick wiki search and...damn she voices both Compa and Nepgear. Wow, Cristina Vee is busy. She is quickly being one of my favorite English voice actress aside from Laura Bailey.
I don't understand Japanese so I don't select the option the use it and I generally don't have an opinion on whether its good or bad though but this is one of the few times I've seen someone not care for Japanese voice acting for a character.
She is also the voice of Mio from K-On, Homura from Madoka Magica and Saki from AT3.
dakkumauji
Member
Woo, my LE finally came in. I actually like the box of the LE set, looks a lot nicer than previous sets.
That sucks man.
Got my LE today finally, everything seems ok inside. The soundtrack CD was placed in the case backwards, but that's about it.
Ultimadrago
Member
I've been reading about frame rate drops?
If true, Are they drastic and/or frequent?
If true, Are they drastic and/or frequent?
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
I do have another issue, which is the music. The music in this game is not as good as the previous game. The town tunes pale in comparison to the awesome themes of lowee, planeptune, leanbox, and lastation from the original. The battle music is good, but I did like the tunes in the original game more.
I wonder what caused the drop in music quality?
I wonder what caused the drop in music quality?
Skyfireblaze
Member
I got my standard edition as well! I would have loved the limited edition but everything that isn't in a local store or Amazon is kinda a no for me Though I'll still wait till I finished the first before I jump on this, nice to hear it seems quite improved over the first one from everyone's impressions since I already like the first!
Though I really wonder why the framerate still seems bad, it's not that I mind but from what I heard the Neptunia games run on the same engine as Trinity Universe which ran quite well so I'm surprised. I guess Gust and Nippon Ichi improved something there.
Though I'll still wait till I finished the first before I jump on this, nice to hear it seems quite improved over the first one from everyone's impressions since I already like the first! Though I really wonder why the framerate still seems bad, it's not that I mind but from what I heard the Neptunia games run on the same engine as Trinity Universe which ran quite well so I'm surprised. I guess Gust and Nippon Ichi improved something there.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
So from Esura's impressions in another thread, and impressions in this thread... the gameplay is... ok or at least better than Neptunia 1?
And this game has shares? The share system sucked in the original. Can't believe they brought it back. You needed to transfer shares to view all of the events by redoing quests, and there was a trophy for that iirc (Histoire Enthusiast, or something?).
Yeah, Nep1's battle system consisted of me holding down a button for things to happen faster. So boring. If mk2's battle system is better for sure, I might invest in it. It looks okay from some of the JP footage I've seen, at least.
And this game has shares? The share system sucked in the original. Can't believe they brought it back. You needed to transfer shares to view all of the events by redoing quests, and there was a trophy for that iirc (Histoire Enthusiast, or something?).
So... they made it more complicated?Coxy said:
I couldn't stand the Japanese dub in Neptunia 1. Everyone irritated me. Actually, I don't remember liking the English dub much either, lol.
Yeah, Nep1's battle system consisted of me holding down a button for things to happen faster. So boring. If mk2's battle system is better for sure, I might invest in it. It looks okay from some of the JP footage I've seen, at least.
So from Esura's impressions in another thread, and impressions in this thread... the gameplay is... ok or at least better than Neptunia 1?
And this game has shares? The share system sucked in the original. Can't believe they brought it back. You needed to transfer shares to view all of the events by redoing quests, and there was a trophy for that iirc (Histoire Enthusiast, or something?).
So... they made it more complicated?
I couldn't stand the Japanese dub in Neptunia 1. Everyone irritated me. Actually, I don't remember liking the English dub much either, lol.
Yeah, Nep1's battle system consisted of me holding down a button for things to happen faster. So boring. If mk2's battle system is better for sure, I might invest in it. It looks okay from some of the JP footage I've seen, at least.
Yes, gameplay is much better than the first imo. Won't win any awards for best battle system or anything but its much more...fun.
In this game, they do actually tell you more about shares this time and it doesn't require you to go hunting for NISA to see them, although another member has stated that you could lock yourself out of the True Ending in your first playthrough if you don't watch yourself.
Unlike the previous one, I have no issues whatsoever on recommending this to any RPG enthusiast, content be damned (I love it
).Gameplay is much much better, I'd go as far as to say this actually a good battle system, it's fast and has a reasonable amount of strategy in the area of effects and positioning
So... they made it more complicated?
no, it's much simpler, every quest shows you what shares it will change, where and by how much, it's much easier to see what you need to change and how to change it, the only problem is if you dont have an appropriate quest to lower one and raise another, which is only a problem on the first playthrough until you get the new game+ quests
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Thanks for your answers, both of you.
Oh, phew. I thought shares were going to be a nightmare. I really didn't like the mechanic in the original.
If the battle system is satisfactory and way better than the first game, there's no reason for me to not invest in it. And if positioning matters, that sounds good to me. I like trying everything once.
I'll go out and scour around for the game tomorrow. I'd like to get my hands on it before it gets hard to find. Content aside, I guess I like trying different RPGs in general.
Oh, phew. I thought shares were going to be a nightmare. I really didn't like the mechanic in the original.
If the battle system is satisfactory and way better than the first game, there's no reason for me to not invest in it. And if positioning matters, that sounds good to me. I like trying everything once.
I'll go out and scour around for the game tomorrow. I'd like to get my hands on it before it gets hard to find. Content aside, I guess I like trying different RPGs in general.
drtomoe123
Member
I really can't wait to play this game. My LE should be here tomorrow.
So from Esura's impressions in another thread, and impressions in this thread... the gameplay is... ok or at least better than Neptunia 1?
And this game has shares? The share system sucked in the original. Can't believe they brought it back. You needed to transfer shares to view all of the events by redoing quests, and there was a trophy for that iirc (Histoire Enthusiast, or something?).
So... they made it more complicated?
I couldn't stand the Japanese dub in Neptunia 1. Everyone irritated me. Actually, I don't remember liking the English dub much either, lol.
Yeah, Nep1's battle system consisted of me holding down a button for things to happen faster. So boring. If mk2's battle system is better for sure, I might invest in it. It looks okay from some of the JP footage I've seen, at least.
Haha i've stuck to the jp dub since Hocchan is the lead
That said, Mk2 comes off somewhat solid. Like all the systems work and flow. But it still feels like a solid 6 or 7 game, if not purely mediocre. But one thing I could say though is that someone compared the battle system to Trusty Bell/Eternal Sonata. I can easily say it's leaps and bounds in comparison to that haha. (I absolutely hated Trusty)
The one thing that feels really off or what cements it as mediocre is the writing. Supposedly as godawful the first one was in terms of gameplay, at least the writing very funny and entertaining? Mk2 comes off pretty plain and dry so far. There's some moments that give me a little chuckle, but it's not really keeping me hooked. If anything, the battle system is what keeps me going.
Thanks for your answers, both of you.
Oh, phew. I thought shares were going to be a nightmare. I really didn't like the mechanic in the original.
If the battle system is satisfactory and way better than the first game, there's no reason for me to not invest in it. And if positioning matters, that sounds good to me. I like trying everything once.
I'll go out and scour around for the game tomorrow. I'd like to get my hands on it before it gets hard to find. Content aside, I guess I like trying different RPGs in general.
Yup positioning does matter. You want to keep your healers far away, and never bunch up your characters if you can't help it. But it's also great to abuse on enemies when you have a wide attack
Messing with the positioning like in ARMS or BLITZ to nail as many as you can at once.Maybe that's it. The oracle did say that Gear actually had manners in comparison to her sister. That said though, I do love Nisa-chan and Gust-chan a lot. Gust is straight up opportunist alchemist/merchant. She's the one that gave me the little chuckles, while Nisa-chan is just straight up funny/dumb hero antics.
green_focus
Member
Bought from amazon.com, canceled my amazon.ca order, got my shipping notice yesterday. Might work for you too!
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
I like Nepgear, she is one of my favorite new characters.
Her Japanese voice (Yui Horie) sounds way too similar to her role as Akane from Kampfer.
Don't get me wrong, I like most of the cast. But it just hasn't been very amusing aside from bits and pieces. The thing that fascinated me about the original mk1 was that despite it being such an ass game, the writing and whatnot was a real treat. Anyway, the fact that Hocchan is Nepgear is also mad plus points and why I'm dealing with Compas "waku waku"
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Yeah, the script and the great music in the original one was a treat. Currently the game doesn't have any standout moments that is laugh out loud funny like the original (20 hours on the game so far). I have been genuinely creeped out with the Pedo midboss guy, and frankly the game would be much better without these stupid villains. They feel more like team rocket more than a genuinely evil threat like the OG supervillain.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
I agree that overall it is a better game, but it seems to be missing some of the origninal's charm. With that said, the battle system is far superior, the share system makes logical sense, and I find Nepgear more likable than Compa (I would replace her, but I need a better healer first :/ ).
I like mk2, I just miss Neptune and Noire interacting with the characters.
I threw out Compa for Gust the moment I got her.
Yeah, it seems while the first had the charm and such, but it was severely lacking mechanically. Then this one they went and kinda reversed those, rather than keeping a good script and just improving the gameplay. Granted I've only played 2 hours of this game though.
Yeah that sucks. I'm not really a fan of the font used during cutscenes either, seems pretty big and ugly.
Also not digging the new 3D character portraits. The 2D portraits were so much better looking.
Battle system seems to have potential though, which is nice.
Yeah, it's even more striking when you get a scene that uses 2D portraits. The models during the dialogs look worse than the models during gameplay parts, maybe that's just me.
Okay, so I wasn't crazy lol. I saw one scene in 2D and afterwards I wasn't sure it even happened since everything was back to 3D.
Doesn't help that I changed my PSN avatar to Compa, so everytime I go to the XMB I'm reminded what could have been
Combat is apparently absolutely revamped. The best comparison is that it's similar to Eternal Sonata. And what do you mean by random chance? You get a full heal when you're on the world map. Otherwise, healing is done via items or in combat thru spells.