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I had my sexual awakening thanks to Final Fantasy X

8bitpill

Member
Fucking Kotaku is what happen to Vice after it was sold. Click bait, articles showered in current social climate and how that relates to video games. Catering to people that don't or won't even play said video games to make them feel included.

This woman Ash, who will let you know how she feels about a video game not accepting a demographic or how they got a black person wrong in said video game. She can't go with out writing one article that states something along the lines of this...

"And, ho boy, my attention starved, 14-year-old Black ass going to a predominantly white school would have killed Sin several times over for some tenderness, affection, and love."

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She made a article out of being aroused by a video game, simple barebones of it. Most of her articles are clickbait along with "dear diary" entries but no one tells her, "No, leave this shit to your personal writing"

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Fucking Kotaku is what happen to Vice after it was sold. Click bait, articles showered in current social climate and how that relates to video games. Catering to people that don't or won't even play said video games to make them feel included.

This woman Ash, who will let you know how she feels about a video game not accepting a demographic or how they got a black person wrong in said video game. She can't go with out writing one article that states something along the lines of this...

"And, ho boy, my attention starved, 14-year-old Black ass going to a predominantly white school would have killed Sin several times over for some tenderness, affection, and love."

no.gif


She made a article out of being aroused by a video game, simple barebones of it. Most of her articles are clickbait along with "dear diary" entries but no one tells her, "No, leave this shit to your personal writing"

Renee Zellweger Romance GIF by Bridget Jones
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Vampire diaries.
 

the_master

Member
I wouldn't consider sex being taboo in 2021 America. Some people just appreciate modesty. Porn has been defended by the courts and whatnot. Look at the stuff that is in music videos and on TV award shows. My wife was watching True Blood a few months back, my god, I couldn't believe the stuff that was on there. I'm not a prude by any means, just had no idea how sexualized that show is.
When I read this thread, I think that sex is very much a taboo. But of course, I may be wrong.
 

the_master

Member
I think that maybe bullied is too harsh a term here, but otherwise I don't think he is wrong. Bullying is an extreme form of social pressure. The other extreme is approving of poor behavior rather than giving it the laugh and shame that it deserves. Making fun of someone for odd or embarrassing behavior is what is called good social pressure. It's become negatively perceived today, but it's actually a crucial part of development and maturing. Most if not all of us learned not to do certain things or exhibit certain behaviors when our classmates laughed at us for it.

I feel like a lot of this hyper-sexualized stuff that makes its way into lyrics and writing is fine for an adult audience but not necessarily good for consumption to a general audience. Her article would be right at home in a Playboy. On that website... it all just depends on what kind of attention they're seeking I guess.
Yet I don't see what is embarrassing about the article. I think that many comments making fun like children are actually embarrassing, and that is the behaviour I'd like to see called upon
 
When I read this thread, I think that sex is very much a taboo. But of course, I may be wrong.
Yes many things are taboo, like the casting couch, supposedly public knowledge yet taboo. This is how stuff like incest becomes known in a family and kept as known yet taboo subject of discussion.

Sexuality is still a kind of taboo in today's day and age. That line still hasn't been crossed(the line where sex is no more taboo and is openly discussed.). In ancient days the playboy channel would sometimes accidentally transmit over regular broadcasts, but now sex is the openly known yet taboo subject. Will that one day change?

Series like game of thrones might change such in the future.
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funny how they raped the white hair girl openly and no big fuzz was made, they tortured and cut the male organ of a man and no one gave a rat's ass, but then when they raped the red hair girl everyone went nuts. something in the very fabric of reality hints at the importance of pink or red hair.
 
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SpongebobSquaredance

Unconfirmed Member
I think that maybe bullied is too harsh a term here, but otherwise I don't think he is wrong.
I will throw away any decency and any nuance now, but anyone who really endorses bullying should get hit in the face with a stone. It's an idea that is not justifiable, no matter how picturesque it is portrayed.
 

Hari Seldon

Member
I will throw away any decency and any nuance now, but anyone who really endorses bullying should get hit in the face with a stone. It's an idea that is not justifiable, no matter how picturesque it is portrayed.

I disagree. School yard bullying pre-internet age was infinitely better than today's modern 24/7 social media bullying. School yard bullying is as old as human evolution and it normalizes behavior of a culture. People not learning cultural norms when they are young and not learning how to fit in is why suicide, shootings, and extremism is on the rise.
 

StormCell

Member
I will throw away any decency and any nuance now, but anyone who really endorses bullying should get hit in the face with a stone. It's an idea that is not justifiable, no matter how picturesque it is portrayed.

So that's it, you're taking the gloves off? For starters, I think it's inaccurate to equate schoolmates laughing at someone or even teasing them with bullying. I stand by my belief that certain behaviors are deserving of being laughed at or pushed away by the norm. If a kid wants to defecate in his chair during class, he's going to be made fun of for it because it's an inappropriate and lewd behavior. Bullying this kid would be more systematic ridicule that follows him for many years even long after he has fessed up to having erred and corrected the behavior.

Anyone who mistakes good social normalizing teasing for bullying clearly doesn't have a clue about child developmental psychology or what the human maturing process looks like. When I was a child, even my parents would attempt to correct certain non-harmful but abnormal behaviors through a bit of teasing and shaming in order to get me to stop doing them in the presence of others. You've got to take into consideration that some children lack a sense of awareness that is primarily learned when they realize others notice them doing the odd thing.
 
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SpongebobSquaredance

Unconfirmed Member
So that's it, you're taking the gloves off? I think it's inaccurate to equate schoolmates laughing at someone or even teasing them with bullying.
A little shaming and laughing is fine, but that doesn't automatically correlate to bullying. I am not taking my gloves off, whatever that means, I'm just saying that you guys are fucking absurd to even think about endorsing this shit. If you don't equate schoolmates laughing and teasing in an acceptable manner with bullying, then what's your point to begin with?
suicide, shootings, and extremism
...are many effects of bullying. The recent Blizzard accusations are an example of bullying at toxic workplaces. Would both you correlate that to a little shaming and laughing as well? There are plenty instances where this happens. You can't just put a blind eye here and justify it with "well, little fellow, it sucks that you get beaten, get spit on and ridiculed on a daily basis, but hey, just need to learn some basic cultural norms and learn how to fit in."

today's modern 24/7 social media bullying.
A worse form of bullying doesn't justify "good ol' fashioned" bullying.

To be honest, I wish both of guys getting bullied, and I am not talking about this sugarcoated version of bullying you apparently have in your mind where it's just about a few cheap shots and laughing at weird ideas.
 

Hari Seldon

Member
A little shaming and laughing is fine, but that doesn't automatically correlate to bullying. I am not taking my gloves off, whatever that means, I'm just saying that you guys are fucking absurd to even think about endorsing this shit. If you don't equate schoolmates laughing and teasing in an acceptable manner with bullying, then what's your point to begin with?

...are many effects of bullying. The recent Blizzard accusations are an example of bullying at toxic workplaces. Would both you correlate that to a little shaming and laughing as well? There are plenty instances where this happens. You can't just put a blind eye here and justify it with "well, little fellow, it sucks that you get beaten, get spit on and ridiculed on a daily basis, but hey, just need to learn some basic cultural norms and learn how to fit in."


A worse form of bullying doesn't justify "good ol' fashioned" bullying.

To be honest, I wish both of guys getting bullied, and I am not talking about this sugarcoated version of bullying you apparently have in your mind where it's just about a few cheap shots and laughing at weird ideas.
Of course there are different levels of bullying. Some is healthy and is natural as part of evolution. Too much is unhealthy. Your apparent position that all forms of negative social pressure are bad is harmful to the psychological development of kids. Learning how to deal with adversity is part of growing up. Not learning this leads to way worse outcomes later in life as evidence by all statistics today.

Also your last sentence seems to me that you wish that I would be bullied in order to conform to your position that bullying is bad. So is bullying good to show that bullying is bad? Therefore by your own logic bullying is good.
 
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SpongebobSquaredance

Unconfirmed Member
Of course there are different levels of bullying. Some is healthy and is natural as part of evolution. Too much is unhealthy. Your apparent position that all forms of negative social pressure are bad is harmful to the psychological development of kids. Learning how to deal with adversity is part of growing up. Not learning this leads to way worse outcomes later in life as evidence by all statistics today.

Also your last sentence seems to me that you wish that I would be bullied in order to conform to your position that bullying is bad. So is bullying good to show that bullying is bad? Therefore by your own logic bullying is good.
I just differentiate between what you consider bullying and what actually is and should be considered bullying:
  • Direct bullyingrefers to harming others by directly getting at them. It is done by one or a group of pupils repeatedly against some children at school. These children:
    • Are threatened or blackmailed or have their things stolen
    • Are insulted or get called nasty names
    • Have nasty tricks played on them/are subject to ridicule
    • Are hit, shoved around or beaten up


  • Relational bullying refers to damage relationships between friends and destroy status in groups to hurt or upset someone. Over and over again some children at school:
    • Get deliberately left out of get-togethers, parties, trips or groups
    • Have others ignore them, not wanting to be their friend anymore, or not wanting them around in their group
    • Have nasty lies, rumours or stories told about them


  • Cyberbullyingis when someone tries to upset and harm a person using electronic means (eg, mobile phones, text messages, instant messaging, blogs, websites (eg, Facebook, YouTube) or emails)
    • Have their private email, instant mail or text messages forwarded to someone else or have them posted where others can see them
    • Have rumours spread about them online
    • Get threatening or aggressive emails, instant messages or text messages
    • Have embarrassing pictures posted online without their permission
Bullying is the systematic abuse of power and is defined as aggressive behaviour or intentional harm-doing by peers that is carried out repeatedly and involves an imbalance of power. Being bullied is still often wrongly considered as a ‘normal rite of passage’.

The only thing close to your point is teasing and leaving someone out as a means of teaching social norms. I don't consider a little tease, or some cheap shots as bullying.
Not to mention there are way more nuanced way to teach a kid social norms.

Bullying is an predatory evolutionary adaptation and behavior with the goal to gain social dominance and status.

A kid being socially pressured isn't necessarily bad, but what you are talking about also isn't necessarily bullying. Bullying causes severe problems and simply shouldn't be endorsed. Your version of bullying is sugar coated and rarely causes issues and in fact advocating for more bullying would cause far bigger issues than the very few instances it would actually be helpful.

Bullied students typicaly lose confidence in themselves. They can develop physical symptoms such as headaches, stomach pains or sleeping problems.
The bullies are more likely violent and at risk to commit crimes later in life. The people who witness the bullying tend to keep quiet and do nothing because they are afraid to be the next victim of bullies.

Childhood bullying has serious effects on health, resulting in substantial costs for individuals, their families and society at large. In the USA, it has been estimated that preventing high school bullying results in lifetime cost benefits of over $1.4 million per individual.85 In the UK alone, over 16 000 young people aged 11–15 are estimated to be absent from state school with bullying as the main reason, and 78 000 are absent where bullying is one of the reasons given for absence.86 Many bullied children suffer in silence, and are reluctant to tell their parents or teachers about their experiences, for fear of reprisals or because of shame.87 Up to 50% of children say they would rarely, or never, tell their parents, while between 35% and 60% would not tell their teacher.11

Considering this evidence of the ill effects of being bullied and the fact that children will have spent much more time with their peers than their parents by the time they reach 18 years of age, it is more than surprising that childhood bullying is not at the forefront as a major public health concern.8

Also your last sentence seems to me that you wish that I would be bullied in order to conform to your position that bullying is bad. So is bullying good to show that bullying is bad? Therefore by your own logic bullying is good.
You really don't need turn around what I actually mean. No bullying is not good, even in this scenario, however, if you had experienced some bullying, and again not this sugar coated version, you would perhaps get a broader and more nuanced perspective and see that it's not beneficial.
 
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Yoboman

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All the same fucks jerkingoff in this thread..
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… are going …
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.. in this thread.
Lmao and crying about ugly characters in western games in the rest
 

NickFire

Member
Well her one dimensional click bait articles won't be a part of Kotaku anymore.

https://kotaku.com/black-woman-says...iMf8hxIPqm199o2_DjHUjAx1RciAgVLPQfBQdRUXSAzIA
This is an actual quote from that article you linked:

"I had convinced myself that I was so poor in skill and talent that Kotaku was going to be the only place I’d ever work and that someone would have to peel me off the walls to get me to leave."

:messenger_tears_of_joy:

So I guess even the employees there realize what a dumpster fire of an outlet it is?????
 

8bitpill

Member
This is an actual quote from that article you linked:

"I had convinced myself that I was so poor in skill and talent that Kotaku was going to be the only place I’d ever work and that someone would have to peel me off the walls to get me to leave."

:messenger_tears_of_joy:

So I guess even the employees there realize what a dumpster fire of an outlet it is?????
I love how she openly backhanded Kotaku but wouldn't even have the exposer she has currently without being a part of them.

It's apparent in that statement she is just a passive aggressive personality type and I'm sure besides the internet she is a introvert in person.
 

TheInfamousKira

Reseterror Resettler
Well her one dimensional click bait articles won't be a part of Kotaku anymore.

https://kotaku.com/black-woman-says...iMf8hxIPqm199o2_DjHUjAx1RciAgVLPQfBQdRUXSAzIA

What the hell is even that? "I'm resigning! I'm black.I thought I was shitty and would only ever get a job at Kotaku, but now I'm losing a job at Kotaku! Supes progress! I wrote that dumb shit about holes and passed it off as a product review! I'm black. I had my sexual awakening thanks to a J-Pop music video in a game not about sex at all. Us black people, am I right? FFXIV was straight Shia Leboufing my ass. Black holes! I hate most of you. But I done made y'all maddd lol. BTW, I'm black,"

Like...good for you?
 

8bitpill

Member
What the hell is even that? "I'm resigning! I'm black.I thought I was shitty and would only ever get a job at Kotaku, but now I'm losing a job at Kotaku! Supes progress! I wrote that dumb shit about holes and passed it off as a product review! I'm black. I had my sexual awakening thanks to a J-Pop music video in a game not about sex at all. Us black people, am I right? FFXIV was straight Shia Leboufing my ass. Black holes! I hate most of you. But I done made y'all maddd lol. BTW, I'm black,"

Like...good for you?
If you haven't watched the parody movie CB4 about gangsta rap in the early 90's you should, it's got some good laughs.

This scene typically reminded me of how her articles come off,
 

DonkeyPunchJr

World’s Biggest Weeb
She’s moving on to bigger and better things. Perhaps Vox or New York Times.

I can’t wait to read more about how she is a black woman and have her awkwardly project her sexuality on to other topics besides video games.
 

Meesh

Member
Why does every single dumb shitty little thing have to be out there in the wide open public these days?

There is a life lesson that this new generation of idiots really need to learn:

NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT YOU, WHO YOU ARE, WHAT YOU'VE DONE, OR WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. SO STOP THINKING YOU'RE SO DAMN SPECIAL. NOBODY CARES.

Okay, thank you. Move along,
Because social media says it OK.
 
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