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I hope this is the last console generation!
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Great Hair
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fran.fernandez
Member
After stadia? Yup.
what devs are making games only for cloud release?
what devs are making games only for cloud release?
pixelation
Member
Man... we really need a "thumbs down" emoji.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
'Digitally own'
Well theres an oxymoron if ever I've read one. Why are people so willing to bend over and give up ownership of anything physical?
When did it become a dirty word to actually 'own' things?
Coreyinthe504
Neo Member
I tried shadow blade which was better than i expected honestly very playable with a direct connection the problem was the colors were like dull and i couldn't fix it so i got rid of my subscription and bought a gaming pc and i'm happier than ever with that.
Susurrus
Member
And here I was the other day when my internet was down all day and I just wanted to play a game I had purchased but not downloaded. Oh well I could play another game, but in the environment you described I would have been totally fucked.
Not to mention if I am on a plane, or in a hotel, or wherever else.
Or maybe I'm deployed and don't have strong enough internet (I won't be by then but someone will).
No thanks.
Not to mention if I am on a plane, or in a hotel, or wherever else.
Or maybe I'm deployed and don't have strong enough internet (I won't be by then but someone will).
No thanks.
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anothertech
Member
Will be at least 2 more, possibly beyond for Playstation and Nintendo.
Bryank75
Banned
So... because you (a very small minority of opinion) do not want to buy consoles.... you want to deny everyone else (the majority by far) the freedom to buy them!?
Do you happen to collect non-allied side war memorabilia from pre 1945?
Consoles will always be much bigger than streaming for games. Console gaming is growing at a rate of 7% and it is a down year.... so it could be over 10% some years.
As you admit yourself, streaming would result in many different services from every publisher... making gaming fragmented and expensive.... which actually makes a console more desirable as a 'one stop shop' for every game to be available on a unified platform and for great exclusives......
Do you happen to collect non-allied side war memorabilia from pre 1945?
Consoles will always be much bigger than streaming for games. Console gaming is growing at a rate of 7% and it is a down year.... so it could be over 10% some years.
As you admit yourself, streaming would result in many different services from every publisher... making gaming fragmented and expensive.... which actually makes a console more desirable as a 'one stop shop' for every game to be available on a unified platform and for great exclusives......
yurinka
Member
PlayStation and Nintendo are making a ton of money with their current consoles, so make sures they will make more consoles after the known ones.
Streaming will need a decade or so to be an important part of the market, because its technology still needs a lot of work in terms of latency and so on for some key genres which will remain as mostly non-streaming genres for a while, and in most places of the world there isn't a good enough connection, and the 5G coverage first will need many years to have a decent % of the earth covered (the 4G still has a lot of work to do) and still isn't good enough. And on top of that, many countries have data cap limits which is a no-no for game streaming.
Right now the mobiles games generate like half of the gaming revenue, and F2P games including the ones for PC or consoles more than the half of the market. But it doesn't mean that the consoles market shrinked these years: the opposite, they have been growing in revenue year after year since decades ago and it's expected to continue growing (but F2P and mobile games grow faster).
I expect that mostly due to PS5 huge success and its next gen PS Now streaming strategy will make streaming grow during this gen but won't be even a 10% of the gaming revenue at the end of the PS5 lifetime (that is late 2030 aprox.). But yes, since gaming will continue growing the next 10 years, 10% of the gaming revenue will be a shit ton of money, and beyond that after PS6 or PS7 it may become the main gaming platform finally merging all gaming devices (PCs, consoles, mobiles, tablets, tvs or any futuristic devices that may appear in the future like awesome - maybe holographic- projectors, decent AR glasses and so on).
Streaming will need a decade or so to be an important part of the market, because its technology still needs a lot of work in terms of latency and so on for some key genres which will remain as mostly non-streaming genres for a while, and in most places of the world there isn't a good enough connection, and the 5G coverage first will need many years to have a decent % of the earth covered (the 4G still has a lot of work to do) and still isn't good enough. And on top of that, many countries have data cap limits which is a no-no for game streaming.
Right now the mobiles games generate like half of the gaming revenue, and F2P games including the ones for PC or consoles more than the half of the market. But it doesn't mean that the consoles market shrinked these years: the opposite, they have been growing in revenue year after year since decades ago and it's expected to continue growing (but F2P and mobile games grow faster).
I expect that mostly due to PS5 huge success and its next gen PS Now streaming strategy will make streaming grow during this gen but won't be even a 10% of the gaming revenue at the end of the PS5 lifetime (that is late 2030 aprox.). But yes, since gaming will continue growing the next 10 years, 10% of the gaming revenue will be a shit ton of money, and beyond that after PS6 or PS7 it may become the main gaming platform finally merging all gaming devices (PCs, consoles, mobiles, tablets, tvs or any futuristic devices that may appear in the future like awesome - maybe holographic- projectors, decent AR glasses and so on).
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Matsuchezz
Member
No! God please do not let it happen. I just do not want it in its current iteration, but inevitably cloud gaming tech will catch up and will match local hardware speeds, a new medium will be invented someday, and streaming for games will be standard, it will come to pass someday.... until that day arrives i will keep buying consoles. Right now i am more worried about humanity not inventing flying cars and lighting fast transportation like the one seen in The Fly movie.
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Bryank75
Banned
Or a big dirty turd one...
Aggressive Carrot
Member
Nah. I'd rather have a console. I'm not interested in cloud gaming. We have enough streaming services to pay for. We don't need a bunch of video game streaming services too.
German Hops
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief
The roasting in this thread is a true sight to behold.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
They will coexist. There is a market for PC, cloud and mobile gaming. While console gaming isn't exactly "declining", it certaintly isn't growing. At some point companies won't bother anymore producing these boxes, save themselves a lot of headaches and just release their shit on streaming platforms and as digital licences for Steam etc.
Veysetia
Member
Are you aware that not everyone lives in one of the major cities and doesn’t have google fiber? Until the infrastructure is built to sustain online all the time it’s not an option to even consider.
From a business perspective this doesn’t make sense either. They make more money with the current setup I promise you they wouldn’t do it if it didn’t make money, they’d find another way. I like the notion, but it’s not reasonable or from an informed perspective.
genesisblock
Member
This "ideal" cloud solution only looks at gaming at the surface level which is the front end of the game experience. Anyone who observed what happened to EPIC in the apple/android store should be in full alert of the reality that is going to fall with the possibility that they will lose access to their games because of some legal arbitration. Say nothing of the Terms of Service that can be incredibly one-sided to favor the publisher.
All this will encourage is more and more emulation, piracy and eventually leaving the industry by way of the mobile phone games; the only market that will see it through irrelevance - the casual audience.
Which will leave the gaming industry to the niche, steam and catching up with backlogs that we've missed.
All this will encourage is more and more emulation, piracy and eventually leaving the industry by way of the mobile phone games; the only market that will see it through irrelevance - the casual audience.
Which will leave the gaming industry to the niche, steam and catching up with backlogs that we've missed.
MiguelItUp
Member
As much as I'm a fan of PC I always want consoles to be present. I think cloud gaming is a neat idea, especially when we get to a point where it's the best it can be.
That being said, I NEVER want to live in a world where cloud gaming replaces consoles.
That being said, I NEVER want to live in a world where cloud gaming replaces consoles.
llLeonhart
Gold Member
Every single generation without fail.
MrS
Banned
Tell us how you really feel
Susurrus
Member
Shmunter
Member
I actually figured stadia can’t fail. The might of Google advertising, attaching stadia to gameplay videos on YouTube, click a button and you’re playing, etc.
Even with all that at their disposal it’s gone nowhere. Streaming just ain’t happening for another decade or so and this was the ultimate test.
I actually don’t think people are interested playing console games on mobile. They wasn’t simple touch experiences while killing time. Not to mention if Apple doesn’t heed, its DOA for the foreseeable future. Not to mention VR is a no go which will become bigger as wearables become more convenient.
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Rac3r
Member
OP, do you play any competitive games (racers, shooters, etc) that require minimum input lag? What's your internet plan?
I haven't done much game streaming (other than remote play for some RPGs), but I'd imagine that you'd need a gigabit plan to have a completely stable/enjoyable experience. As far as I know, most places in the world don't even have the infrastructure in place to support it.
What makes you think game streaming will become the standard in <10 years when a large portion of gamers are still suffering with subpar connections/speed?
I haven't done much game streaming (other than remote play for some RPGs), but I'd imagine that you'd need a gigabit plan to have a completely stable/enjoyable experience. As far as I know, most places in the world don't even have the infrastructure in place to support it.
What makes you think game streaming will become the standard in <10 years when a large portion of gamers are still suffering with subpar connections/speed?
The Fartist
Gold Member
One more disc-less only generation after PS5 and XSX and then that's a wrap, I'm done gaming.
Red Rackham's Revenge
Member
Obvious troll thread. Surprised everyone is taking it seriously.
The Fartist
Gold Member
RoadHazard
Gold Member
No thanks.
12Dannu123
Member
Do you have direct proof that console gaming is growing? All the acts point to consoles being in decline in many Asian markets.
Bryank75
Banned
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