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Looks like an RGB header to plug into your motherboard if it supports 5v RGB sync.
Ah, okay. Thanks.

My motherboard is a few generations old (Haswell) so it does not have this. I'm able to control RGB via a dedicated button on the case that cycles through all modes, so this is fine.

On a new motherboard that supports the header, would this make RGB modes software controlled?
 

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Ah, okay. Thanks.

My motherboard is a few generations old (Haswell) so it does not have this. I'm able to control RGB via a dedicated button on the case that cycles through all modes, so this is fine.

On a new motherboard that supports the header, would this make RGB modes software controlled?
No problem. And yeah, newer boards come with the 3pin RGB header for addressable RGB color modes that can be controlled by software like Aura Sync, Icue, etc.

My B450 motherboard only has 4pin RGB header, so if I want addressable I'd have to get some sort of converter or controller.
 

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Great time to be a PC gamer, next-gen GPUs and CPUs coming soon

I'm just hoping AMD releases a new chipset for the Zen3 CPUs as I'm not a fan of X570 and it's chipset fan...
 
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Hi guys, I've been meaning to build my first gaming PC very soon, the problem is I've never been involved in PC gaming or PC building so I kinda have no idea what I'm doing. I don't mind the assembling part but I guess I'm looking for advice on how to make a build?

I would like to be able to do VR, and to hopefully run next gen games without much issue, also intend to use it for streaming and video editing. I was thinking about spending $1,500 to $2,000 USD? Is that feasible or am I way off the mark?

I would be looking to build it fairly soon, before October, or mid october at the latest as I need it for work as well.


Thanks for any help, apologies if this thread is not for this.
 

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On a new motherboard that supports the header, would this make RGB modes software controlled?
Yeh that'd the case. Although if you get a new motherboard and it happens to be MSI keep it the way it is and don't bother with the software, dragon center is absolute pants at the moment.
 

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Hi guys, I've been meaning to build my first gaming PC very soon, the problem is I've never been involved in PC gaming or PC building so I kinda have no idea what I'm doing. I don't mind the assembling part but I guess I'm looking for advice on how to make a build?

I would like to be able to do VR, and to hopefully run next gen games without much issue, also intend to use it for streaming and video editing. I was thinking about spending $1,500 to $2,000 USD? Is that feasible or am I way off the mark?

I would be looking to build it fairly soon, before October, or mid october at the latest as I need it for work as well.


Thanks for any help, apologies if this thread is not for this.
That budget will get you a very good ryzen system which should suit your needs although you should wait until the end of October. AMD are about to announce their new line of desktop CPU's and GPU's.

Great time to be a PC gamer, next-gen GPUs and CPUs coming soon

I'm just hoping AMD releases a new chipset for the Zen3 CPUs as I'm not a fan of X570 and it's chipset fan...
Unless you are a power user and hammering your computer with intensive I/O tasks across multiple 4.0 nvme drives or hammering the pcie lanes with multiple graphics cards I wouldn't worry about the chipset fan. The chipset simply doesn't get hot unless you are doing the things i described above because the bandwidth is provided by the CPU on ryzen 3000 cpu's as long as you are just using the top gpu slot and top nvme in pcie 4.0 mode.

I've not seen the chipset fan spin up once on my x570 unify, it simply doesn't get hot enough to necessitate it.
 
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Great time to be a PC gamer, next-gen GPUs and CPUs coming soon

I'm just hoping AMD releases a new chipset for the Zen3 CPUs as I'm not a fan of X570 and it's chipset fan...
I would be very surprised if they released the X670 or whatever they wanna call it for Zen3 CPUs. I'd assume they save those for Zen4.
 
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Anyone able to offer me some advice?

Wanting to connect the pc to my c9 via hdmi.

What is the best way to have games load on the TV? My monitor is a gsync 1440p screen which will remain the primary monitor.

Thanks
 

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Anyone has any experience with this case? The Kolink Observatory RGB.


I like that it comes stock with 3 front fans instead of the 1 I usually see, but it feels a bit overboard; aren't you supposed to balance the air input and output? Well at least it should get good airflow I guess... It also looks big enough for even the largest GPU, which is nice, although it seems the largest coolers won't fit.
I've seen a few reviews online but I'm not sure how accurate they are, and it looks like Gamers Nexus didn't make a video for that one.
 

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Guys, I’m almost decided with my build but I need some final confirmations. The build is https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/QD7myk
  1. Z490-F vs Z490-E, only the wifi and the number of USB ports is different, right? Is the Z490-F enough?
  2. Will the 3080 fit in the 500DX case? Is the case good enough in terms of thermals? Any better option?
  3. If I change my mind and I end up picking a 3090 instead, are the rest of the components still valid?
Other observations are more than welcome too!

Thanks!
 

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Anyone has any experience with this case? The Kolink Observatory RGB.


I like that it comes stock with 3 front fans instead of the 1 I usually see, but it feels a bit overboard; aren't you supposed to balance the air input and output? Well at least it should get good airflow I guess... It also looks big enough for even the largest GPU, which is nice, although it seems the largest coolers won't fit.
I've seen a few reviews online but I'm not sure how accurate they are, and it looks like Gamers Nexus didn't make a video for that one.
Case looks fine, it looks like a smaller version of my case inside. Having a basement compartment is nice for wire management too. I would rather have a mesh front for better airflow but the vents around the front glass look like they're at least a decent sized opening on that case. I've seen a lot of glass front cases with the tiniest opening for the intake vents.

The fan arrangement is good. Front intake, as the air in the case warms up and since the case is pressurized it will naturally head up and out the top of the case. It also looks like you can install more fans on the top if you decide to later. If you set it up like in the images that case will be pressurized, which is good. Positive case pressure means it won't pull dust in all the cracks and crevices all over the case, only through the front opening which has a filter. Less dust = good. I dust my PC about twice a year and usually there's not much dusting to do because I run positive pressure, I just need to clean out the intake filters which takes a few minutes. If you do ever decide to install three more fans on the top, I'd ditch the rear fan/block that opening, then limit their speed compared to the fronts to keep the case pressurized.

There's no such thing as overkill when it comes to airflow (within reason). If you can replace that entire case atmosphere faster than the ambient temperature can raise, you'll see better performance from all of your components. The tradeoff is noise levels. If the noise level is too high though, there is a wide selection of fans on the market that run near-silent. I'm running 4 200mm fans and several 140mm fans that at full blast are much quieter than the sound produced rubbing my thumb and finger against each other.
 
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Hey guys, I know pre built PCs are generally bad. I don't know too much about PCs (as I posted a while ago here lol) but I found this listing for an open box at best buy: https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/acer-gaming-pc-intel-ci7-9700k-1tb-hdd-256gb-ssd-16gb-ram-nvidia-rtx-2080-english-open-box/14682735

It converts to around $1367 USD. I was wondering, is something like this considered good value? I'm not really able to tell the actual value of the parts just by looking at the specs. I have never built a PC and my efforts to create a build so far have been kinda frustrating. I also need it by the first week of October at the latest so I'm not sure I can wait for AMD. Also planned on getting a 3080 but failed miserably this morning so I'm giving up on that. 🤷‍♂️







Edit: On second thought, aside from the 2080, it doesnt seem like a great pc?
 
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Hey guys, I know pre built PCs are generally bad. I don't know too much about PCs (as I posted a while ago here lol) but I found this listing for an open box at best buy: https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/acer-gaming-pc-intel-ci7-9700k-1tb-hdd-256gb-ssd-16gb-ram-nvidia-rtx-2080-english-open-box/14682735

It converts to around $1367 USD. I was wondering, is something like this considered good value? I'm not really able to tell the actual value of the parts just by looking at the specs. I have never built a PC and my efforts to create a build so far have been kinda frustrating. I also need it by the first week of October at the latest so I'm not sure I can wait for AMD. Also planned on getting a 3080 but failed miserably this morning so I'm giving up on that. 🤷‍♂️







Edit: On second thought, aside from the 2080, it doesnt seem like a great pc?
Seems in line with Acer's own refurbished price.


It has a 2080 and a 9700K but a PC with no glass side panel in the middle of it being a standard thing should be telling about component quality. This is why it has a solid side panel and why it's $1300:



The ram is bargain-bin 2666 DDR4, the mobo is a bargain-bin board, which might affect your ability to utilize the 9700K's ability to overclock and limit you in expansion. The tiny included CPU cooler won't handle an overclock anyways. The cables are worth in total about $1.20 in materials. There are only two case fans so passive cooling is pretty much non-existent. The HDD/tiny SSD is an issue especially since the OS will probably be on the SSD on a partition maybe leaving room for a couple games. For a 9700K and an RTX2080 500W is pushing it and there's no mention of the PSU brand or certification. The PSU is mounted at the very top of the case where there should be venting for all the heat that 2080 will generate. Speaking of the GPU, it will be just an inch above the floor of the case with no venting open to it to pull in cool air. The case is a $15 tin box with an Acer faceplate.

$1300 is cheap for a PC with a 9700K and a 2080, but all the other parts making up this PC will hinder both, especially once temps start going up. The cheap mobo will probably be the first thing to die on you.

I'd give it a hard pass.

If you're open for building, it's a great option. I'm the dumbest person I've ever met (even I agree on that) and I got it figured out. I threw this together pretty fast but it should give you an idea how much better overall a self-built system can be for the money. You could probably find some of the components cheaper, and you might prefer to swap out some parts I picked. The site itself is really easy to use and will find the parts you need with links to the sites and stores that sell them with pricing listed. It also warns you of compatibility issues as you piece a build together.


You said you wanted Intel so that's what I chose, but you can save a lot by going with a Ryzen CPU/mobo in the same price range at the expense of a little gaming performance. I'm not partial to either.

I went Intel 10600K on a Z490 mobo with two M.2 slots. A large air cooler because better cooling is better. I personally prefer AIO, but AIO costs considerably more. Went up to 32GB 3200 DDR4 because 16GB will be the minimum soon, you'll have 2 free slots to expand to 64GB later if you want to. I put a 250GB M.2 NVMe drive to use as an OS drive, and another 1TB M.2 NVMe drive for games and storage (suggest an external brick for bulk storage). I picked an EVGA 2070 Super in place of the 2080 which for the mast part performs the same for less money, especially if it's getting better cooling. Finally I picked a simple Phanteks Eclipse Mid-ATX case with plenty of good airflow and a basement for the PSU and cable management. Speaking of cables, the PSU I picked is modular and comes with all the cables you need to get started. You won't get the SATA cables but you also don't need them for the M.2 drives. The case only comes with one rear fan, so I tossed in 3 Fractal Venturi HF14 fans that move a massive amount of air and are still really quiet. You can get Windows 10 keys off ebay for $10, and pick your out mouse and keyboard because that's completely personal taste.

This will perform better than the Acer. It will run cooler, you'll be able to overclock, and your storage will be an order of magnitude faster. It's a bit more money, doesn't come with a mouse and keyboard and you have to put it together, but it's new, won't be loaded up with bloatware, and will be a blank slate for you to set up exactly how you want it.

With the 30 series cards having just launched, I'd keep my eye open for retards panic selling 2080tis and 2080S cards for $500. Just beware deals that seem to good to be true, because those deals have been mining bitcoins 24/7 for the last year.

If you don't want to build, there are a few decent builders out there that I'd go with over Acer, Dell, or really any of the off-the-shelf PC manufacturers. You have to keep in mind that they are wrapping their labor costs for assembly into the pricing, so to hit $1500, they will have to cut corners somewhere and even some of the more reputable builders have a tendency to forget to plug something in from time to time.
 

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Seems in line with Acer's own refurbished price.


It has a 2080 and a 9700K but a PC with no glass side panel in the middle of it being a standard thing should be telling about component quality. This is why it has a solid side panel and why it's $1300:



The ram is bargain-bin 2666 DDR4, the mobo is a bargain-bin board, which might affect your ability to utilize the 9700K's ability to overclock and limit you in expansion. The tiny included CPU cooler won't handle an overclock anyways. The cables are worth in total about $1.20 in materials. There are only two case fans so passive cooling is pretty much non-existent. The HDD/tiny SSD is an issue especially since the OS will probably be on the SSD on a partition maybe leaving room for a couple games. For a 9700K and an RTX2080 500W is pushing it and there's no mention of the PSU brand or certification. The PSU is mounted at the very top of the case where there should be venting for all the heat that 2080 will generate. Speaking of the GPU, it will be just an inch above the floor of the case with no venting open to it to pull in cool air. The case is a $15 tin box with an Acer faceplate.

$1300 is cheap for a PC with a 9700K and a 2080, but all the other parts making up this PC will hinder both, especially once temps start going up. The cheap mobo will probably be the first thing to die on you.

I'd give it a hard pass.

If you're open for building, it's a great option. I'm the dumbest person I've ever met (even I agree on that) and I got it figured out. I threw this together pretty fast but it should give you an idea how much better overall a self-built system can be for the money. You could probably find some of the components cheaper, and you might prefer to swap out some parts I picked. The site itself is really easy to use and will find the parts you need with links to the sites and stores that sell them with pricing listed. It also warns you of compatibility issues as you piece a build together.


You said you wanted Intel so that's what I chose, but you can save a lot by going with a Ryzen CPU/mobo in the same price range at the expense of a little gaming performance. I'm not partial to either.

I went Intel 10600K on a Z490 mobo with two M.2 slots. A large air cooler because better cooling is better. I personally prefer AIO, but AIO costs considerably more. Went up to 32GB 3200 DDR4 because 16GB will be the minimum soon, you'll have 2 free slots to expand to 64GB later if you want to. I put a 250GB M.2 NVMe drive to use as an OS drive, and another 1TB M.2 NVMe drive for games and storage (suggest an external brick for bulk storage). I picked an EVGA 2070 Super in place of the 2080 which for the mast part performs the same for less money, especially if it's getting better cooling. Finally I picked a simple Phanteks Eclipse Mid-ATX case with plenty of good airflow and a basement for the PSU and cable management. Speaking of cables, the PSU I picked is modular and comes with all the cables you need to get started. You won't get the SATA cables but you also don't need them for the M.2 drives. The case only comes with one rear fan, so I tossed in 3 Fractal Venturi HF14 fans that move a massive amount of air and are still really quiet. You can get Windows 10 keys off ebay for $10, and pick your out mouse and keyboard because that's completely personal taste.

This will perform better than the Acer. It will run cooler, you'll be able to overclock, and your storage will be an order of magnitude faster. It's a bit more money, doesn't come with a mouse and keyboard and you have to put it together, but it's new, won't be loaded up with bloatware, and will be a blank slate for you to set up exactly how you want it.

With the 30 series cards having just launched, I'd keep my eye open for retards panic selling 2080tis and 2080S cards for $500. Just beware deals that seem to good to be true, because those deals have been mining bitcoins 24/7 for the last year.

If you don't want to build, there are a few decent builders out there that I'd go with over Acer, Dell, or really any of the off-the-shelf PC manufacturers. You have to keep in mind that they are wrapping their labor costs for assembly into the pricing, so to hit $1500, they will have to cut corners somewhere and even some of the more reputable builders have a tendency to forget to plug something in from time to time.
Yeah upon further inspection I decided that that PC is not worth it at all. I am definitely up to building my stuff for sure, just get confused when I pull up PCpartpicker and stare at the parts, so many options, so little knowledge.

I would actually prefer a Ryzen CPU as many people tell me it's better, what I meant with waiting for AMD was in relation to their new products in October. Ideally i'm looking to spend about 2 to 2.2k which is in that $1300-$1800 range.



Thank you so much for the reply man, really appreciate it.
 

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Yeah upon further inspection I decided that that PC is not worth it at all. I am definitely up to building my stuff for sure, just get confused when I pull up PCpartpicker and stare at the parts, so many options, so little knowledge.

I would actually prefer a Ryzen CPU as many people tell me it's better, what I meant with waiting for AMD was in relation to their new products in October. Ideally i'm looking to spend about 2 to 2.2k which is in that $1300-$1800 range.



Thank you so much for the reply man, really appreciate it.
No worries, I'm sitting here waiting for an 11GB Flight Simulator update so I might as well be useful. In 2015 I was sitting in your shoes with no idea what I was looking at trying to piece together a decent build. It ended up lasting me 5 years with no real issues and a GPU upgrade. You're probably in a better spot than I was back then.

Ryzen is a better value with more cores/threads for your dollar and in multi-tasking setups where you have a work PC that also has to run games more threads is a good thing. An argument can be made for Intel in strictly gaming scenarios. The i5-10600K is damned fast for the price which is why I chose it. It's only a 6-core/12-thread CPU but for a gaming PC that's more than enough. If you're using the PC as a gaming platform primarily I'd probably still go with the i5-10600K. It or it's replacement will likely be what I finally replace my 5 year old i7-5820K with when I move to the (hopefully) available 3080ti. I've managed to get away with my old 5820K for as long as I have because I'm locked to 60hz with my 4K panel, once I replace this monitor with a high refresh panel it won't be able to keep up.

Current Intel CPUs also don't support PCIe 4.0, but nothing really makes good use of it yet and likely won't for a couple years. PCIe 4.0 drives are also pretty pricey right now but if you want it right now you won't get it with Intel.

2-2.2k is a great price range, you can build something that will play anything really well at 1440p for $2K.

Looking at PCPartpicker can be daunting, but the best thing you can do is watch some reviews and read some guides to get an idea what you want, and what you need to buy first, then add in your own observations based on the specs you've seen. It's a lot easier to put together a build if you already have an idea what you want.
 
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No worries, I'm sitting here waiting for an 11GB Flight Simulator update so I might as well be useful. In 2015 I was sitting in your shoes with no idea what I was looking at trying to piece together a decent build. It ended up lasting me 5 years with no real issues and a GPU upgrade. You're probably in a better spot than I was back then.

Ryzen is a better value with more cores/threads for your dollar and in multi-tasking setups where you have a work PC that also has to run games more threads is a good thing. An argument can be made for Intel in strictly gaming scenarios. The i5-10600K is damned fast for the price which is why I chose it. It's only a 6-core/12-thread CPU but for a gaming PC that's more than enough. If you're using the PC as a gaming platform primarily I'd probably still go with the i5-10600K. It or it's replacement will likely be what I finally replace my 5 year old i7-5820K with when I move to the (hopefully) available 3080ti. I've managed to get away with my old 5820K for as long as I have because I'm locked to 60hz with my 4K panel, once I replace this monitor with a high refresh panel it won't be able to keep up.

Current Intel CPUs also don't support PCIe 4.0, but nothing really makes good use of it yet and likely won't for a couple years. PCIe 4.0 drives are also pretty pricey right now but if you want it right now you won't get it with Intel.

2-2.2k is a great price range, you can build something that will play anything really well at 1440p for $2K.

Looking at PCPartpicker can be daunting, but the best thing you can do is watch some reviews and read some guides to get an idea what you want, and what you need to buy first, then add in your own observations based on the specs you've seen. It's a lot easier to put together a build if you already have an idea what you want.
I have been doing all that but I was feeling like I wasn't getting anywhere, I got renewed enthusiasm now.

Generally I want a PC that's decent with doing 2k resolution on games that come out during the next few years without much Issue, not crazy about 4k. For say a single player game, to me it doesn't matter if it's 30FPS with RTX on, frame rate is not something I've cared about too much over the years and I probably prefer visual quality more. But if I can run stuff in ultra, it's also not a big deal. I would like to try out FS2020 since I have gamepass but I won't play it hardcore enough to tailor the PC in order to tame that beast lol. I would like to get a VR headset somewhere around the future so hopefully I'd get something that can handle that (I'm unsure what you need, but it shouldnt be that bad considering the prebuilts all say VR ready with worse specs).


As for the cpu talk, I have to do a lot of video editing for work and also would like to maybe stream every now and then, at least casually. is AMD better suited for that? I was looking at maybe a ryzen 7 3700x or a 9 3900x? Although I just tried to swap the intel cpu in the build you put together and it wouldn't give me any AMD brand ones as compatible. Any idea what's wrong with that? I'm sure it's a very nooby question but I really liked the specs you put in there and would like to use that build as a base.

Again, thanks a lot man :messenger_heart:
 

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I have been doing all that but I was feeling like I wasn't getting anywhere, I got renewed enthusiasm now.

Generally I want a PC that's decent with doing 2k resolution on games that come out during the next few years without much Issue, not crazy about 4k. For say a single player game, to me it doesn't matter if it's 30FPS with RTX on, frame rate is not something I've cared about too much over the years and I probably prefer visual quality more. But if I can run stuff in ultra, it's also not a big deal. I would like to try out FS2020 since I have gamepass but I won't play it hardcore enough to tailor the PC in order to tame that beast lol. I would like to get a VR headset somewhere around the future so hopefully I'd get something that can handle that (I'm unsure what you need, but it shouldnt be that bad considering the prebuilts all say VR ready with worse specs).


As for the cpu talk, I have to do a lot of video editing for work and also would like to maybe stream every now and then, at least casually. is AMD better suited for that? I was looking at maybe a ryzen 7 3700x or a 9 3900x? Although I just tried to swap the intel cpu in the build you put together and it wouldn't give me any AMD brand ones as compatible. Any idea what's wrong with that? I'm sure it's a very nooby question but I really liked the specs you put in there and would like to use that build as a base.

Again, thanks a lot man :messenger_heart:
The Ryzen/Intel performance is basically yin and yang.



For a multi-tasking system, more cores/threads generally = better. I'd go 10600K or 10700K for my use, but my PC is gaming first and foremost, with some editing on the side. Everything about my system is based on cooling so I can run games better, everything else is secondary. The i5 at around $300 is almost as fast as the $400 8-core i7-10700K or even the $500 10-core i9-10900K. Compared to AMD it's faster in gaming than even the $700 3950X. So you have to decide what's more important overall to you.

The i5-10600K will handle all the editing stuff just fine, the i7-10700K will be better with two more cores and the i9-10900K better still with 10 cores. Pricing jumps $100 each time you add two more cores though , and the 10900 is about $100 more than a 3900x. None of the Intel CPUs will perform as well as the AMD CPUs in multi-thread applications. Power users constantly compiling videos or rendering would absolutely go for more cores/threads as it will speed things up there, which is why Youtubers tend to recommend AMD in their builds along with the value proposition. If you're building this PC for work and are paid by productivity, time = money so I would prioritize getting work done faster and go with a 3900x . If you're hourly or on salary and get paid regardless of how much you get done, then it really doesn't matter and I'd go straight gaming machine. It will still get the work stuff done.

In the end, you have to weigh the pros and cons of both and decide which is right for your application because you'll be the one using it.

On pcpartpicker the reason it won't let you swap cpus in the builder is that the two CPUs require different sockets. To change cpus you have to remove the mobo from the build first, then pick the CPU you want, then select the mobo you want from the list of compatible boards.

Intel CPUs use LGA sockets while AMD uses PGA sockets.


Keep in mind that sockets change with generations too. For example, my Intel X-99 motherboard uses an LGA-2011-3 socket which no longer supports current gen Intel CPUs which are LGA-1200.

An i5-10600K, i-10700K and the i9-10900K are all Comet Lake chips which use an LGA-1200 socket, which is an Intel architecture. AMD 3900x requires an AM4 socket for it's AMD architecture.

Motherboards can get confusing because you have to keep several things in mind. Once you pick out your CPU you'll still be bombarded with a pile of mobo choices.

For AMD Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 9 (3700X and 3900x) you have a choice of A 320-520, B350-550 and X470-570 boards. These board all have different features. A-series boards are bare-bones and I wouldn't really look at them in a gaming PC at all. B-series boards are better, but again I'd keep looking. The X-series boards are where you'll want to look, I'd stick to X570 if I were buying a 3700X or 3900x which gives you more room to expand, and access to PCIe 4.0 m.2 drives.

For Intel Comet Lake (i5-10600K, i7-10900K and i9-10900K) you have B460, H410-470, Q470, and Z490. Just like with AMD the lower the letter/number, the less features the board has along with less potential to upgrade over time. I'd look at Z490 boards for an Intel system. Intel Comet Lake doesn't support PCIe 4.0 right now, but Rocket Lake looks to support it which will use Z590 boards when they release. If you absolutely need PCIe 4.0 and want an Intel CPU, you'll have to wait for Rocket Lake.

Now you've narrowed down the search and have different makes and models from a pile of manufacturers. Here is where you need to look at reviews and look into what features those boards have. Different manufacturers all produce the same end product but things like aesthetics and build quality come in to play at this point. I hate RGB and "gamer" designs so I will actively seek out something without that shit if it exists.

If you want m.2 NVMe storage, make sure it's on the board, 2xm.2 slots is pretty normal now, but you can find boards with 3xm.2 slots if you want that. Don't spend extra for better on-board wifi unless you absolutely can't run an ethernet cable to your PC. Don't buy a $350 mobo for gaming and light productivity use if you can get the same performance and potential out of a $150-$200 board. For example, do you need 5 PCIex16 expansion slots? Do you ever plan on running 3 NVMe drives? Do you want a fancy on-board audio setup? All these things are optional, add to the cost and won't make games run better.
 

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Thanks a lot BusierDonkey BusierDonkey your posts gave me a lot to think about and I spent a while just cranking at it with a couple friends, ultimately we came up with this build:



I got the GPU from a friend, it's only been in use since May, and he's one of those people that buys games and consoles then doesn't play them so the card is in great shape.

Aside from that, do you (or anyone) in this thread have any recommendations/feedback? Or do you guys think I'm good to go? The price is really good IMO and I don't see many problems with the PC but then again I'm not an expert.


Cheers for any feedback! Will start buying everything asap and probably build it next weekend :)
 
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Thanks a lot BusierDonkey BusierDonkey your posts gave me a lot to think about and I spent a while just cranking at it with a couple friends, ultimately we came up with this build:



I got the GPU from a friend, it's only been in use since May, and he's one of those people that buys games and consoles then doesn't play them so the card is in great shape.

Aside from that, do you (or anyone) in this thread have any recommendations/feedback? Or do you guys think I'm good to go? The price is really good IMO and I don't see many problems with the PC but then again I'm not an expert.


Cheers for any feedback! Will start buying everything asap and probably build it next weekend :)
That looks like it will be a nice build! The CPU/mobo you picked should keep up with any GPU upgrades you make down the line for a long time and your PSU choice gives you some headroom for bigger GPUs down the line.

My one concern is that you opted for a PCIe 4.0 mobo, but went with two PCIe 3.0 NVMe drives. There are a few PCIe 4.0 SSDs on the market like the Sabrent Rocket 4.0, Corsair MP600, Gigabyte Aorus, Seagate Firecuda 520 and a couple others. The Samsung 980 Pro is almost out and will be hitting 7 GB/s at launch. They're more money, but are faster than the 3.0 drives. The 3.0 drives are still plenty fast for pretty much anything but I just want to be sure you were aware.

If you can hold on with a single NVMe drive, I'd get a single 500GB gen 4 drive for an OS drive and a few games. Then I'd wait for the faster gen 4 drives like the 980 Pro to come out and use one of them as my second drive.

If you don't already have one I'd also recommend getting a large bulk storage drive to keep games and backups for programs on. I have a large external drive with all my Steam and Xbox Gamepass games stored on it. When I play a game I copy it from the bulk drive to my NVMe drive (I only have one slot on my mobo), then when it's done I delete it. It's much faster than downloading multiple times if you want to go back to a game and if you just want to pop in and out you can run it off the bulk drive. The other benefit is that you can take the drive with you and play your games off another PC. In the event of a catastrophic failure, you can quickly copy files for all your stuff too if something goes wrong.

Speaking of which, my own PC just had a major catastrophic issue so I might not be far behind you buying parts :messenger_grinning_sweat:
 

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That looks like it will be a nice build! The CPU/mobo you picked should keep up with any GPU upgrades you make down the line for a long time and your PSU choice gives you some headroom for bigger GPUs down the line.

My one concern is that you opted for a PCIe 4.0 mobo, but went with two PCIe 3.0 NVMe drives. There are a few PCIe 4.0 SSDs on the market like the Sabrent Rocket 4.0, Corsair MP600, Gigabyte Aorus, Seagate Firecuda 520 and a couple others. The Samsung 980 Pro is almost out and will be hitting 7 GB/s at launch. They're more money, but are faster than the 3.0 drives. The 3.0 drives are still plenty fast for pretty much anything but I just want to be sure you were aware.

If you can hold on with a single NVMe drive, I'd get a single 500GB gen 4 drive for an OS drive and a few games. Then I'd wait for the faster gen 4 drives like the 980 Pro to come out and use one of them as my second drive.

If you don't already have one I'd also recommend getting a large bulk storage drive to keep games and backups for programs on. I have a large external drive with all my Steam and Xbox Gamepass games stored on it. When I play a game I copy it from the bulk drive to my NVMe drive (I only have one slot on my mobo), then when it's done I delete it. It's much faster than downloading multiple times if you want to go back to a game and if you just want to pop in and out you can run it off the bulk drive. The other benefit is that you can take the drive with you and play your games off another PC. In the event of a catastrophic failure, you can quickly copy files for all your stuff too if something goes wrong.

Speaking of which, my own PC just had a major catastrophic issue so I might not be far behind you buying parts :messenger_grinning_sweat:

I'm glad it looks good! I already feel a little proud and I haven't even put it together yet :messenger_grinning_smiling:


I actually had not realized that about the drives, great catch. What about getting the single 500GB gen 4 drive (I don't really know which ones are these though, will have to do some reading unless you have a suggestion for one?) and just buy the external drive for my backups/games/video files I'm no longer using etc. Does that sound like a good plan?

Also, is the external drive a HDD? if so, what size would you recommend? I suppose they are pretty cheap by now.


I'm sorry about your PC :messenger_crying: hope you're able to salvage some of it and get back up and running soon.
 

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What's the pre xmas dream build look like?

RYZEN 4000 RDNA CPU
RTX3090
32GB of DDR4 Memory?
2X Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD running RAID 0
PCI 4 Motherboard?
Seasonic 750+ Power Supply (Seasonic has been so good to me)

I only build one of these every 5 years. Its been awhile.

How long until DDR5 memory releases?
 

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What's the pre xmas dream build look like?

RYZEN 4000 RDNA CPU
RTX3090
32GB of DDR4 Memory?
2X Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD running RAID 0
PCI 4 Motherboard?
Seasonic 750+ Power Supply (Seasonic has been so good to me)

I only build one of these every 5 years. Its been awhile.

How long until DDR5 memory releases?
Supposedly it's not the Ryzen 3 4000, it's Ryzen 3 5000. Anyway I guess we'll see since they're supposed to announce them on Oct 8.
 
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Thanks a lot BusierDonkey BusierDonkey your posts gave me a lot to think about and I spent a while just cranking at it with a couple friends, ultimately we came up with this build:



I got the GPU from a friend, it's only been in use since May, and he's one of those people that buys games and consoles then doesn't play them so the card is in great shape.

Aside from that, do you (or anyone) in this thread have any recommendations/feedback? Or do you guys think I'm good to go? The price is really good IMO and I don't see many problems with the PC but then again I'm not an expert.


Cheers for any feedback! Will start buying everything asap and probably build it next weekend :)
You do know they're having a web cast on October 8 about the new Ryzen cpu's, right? (Ryzen 3.) Supposedly they're going to have Ryzen 5800x which is an 8 core chip and the 5900x which would be 12 core.
 

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You do know they're having a web cast on October 8 about the new Ryzen cpu's, right? (Ryzen 3.) Supposedly they're going to have Ryzen 5800x which is an 8 core chip and the 5900x which would be 12 core.

I am aware, sadly I need to do some work on the PC as well so I can't wait more than about 2 weeks from now.

I'll upgrade a year or two down the line.
 

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You do know they're having a web cast on October 8 about the new Ryzen cpu's, right? (Ryzen 3.) Supposedly they're going to have Ryzen 5800x which is an 8 core chip and the 5900x which would be 12 core.
I also need it by the first week of October at the latest so I'm not sure I can wait for AMD. Also planned on getting a 3080 but failed miserably this morning so I'm giving up on that. 🤷‍♂️
I'd offer the same advice you are if I hadn't read that. Normally I hate saying "just wait for something better" but in this case we're so close to new shit, but people have circumstances that sometimes limit options.

I actually had not realized that about the drives, great catch. What about getting the single 500GB gen 4 drive (I don't really know which ones are these though, will have to do some reading unless you have a suggestion for one?) and just buy the external drive for my backups/games/video files I'm no longer using etc. Does that sound like a good plan?

Also, is the external drive a HDD? if so, what size would you recommend? I suppose they are pretty cheap by now.
The drives I listed in my previous post are all Gen 4 - EDIT: do a search on things like "best gen 4 SSD" on google and you'll get a bunch of lists of the current gen 4 drives and how they are rated by various outlets. Any advice I give you about them is basically worthless as I haven't ever used one. Just be aware some have heatsinks that may cause clearance issues with your other components.

Running a 500GB drive as your C: drive and using a bulk drive will be fine if you want to wait for the 980 Pro. I only run a single m.2 drive and keep most of my games on SATA SSDs because they're fast enough for that purpose. For an external drive you can use an SSD, but for bulk storage speed doesn't really matter and pricing is so low on HDDs right now.

For an external HDD drive, basically they're all the same, just use reviews to see if any have particular faults. I have an old 5200rpm Seagate external that I've used for years, and another 3TB 5200RPM Toshiba I've been using even longer.

This is the 6TB equivalent of the drive I'm running, it's had no issues:

 
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I am aware, sadly I need to do some work on the PC as well so I can't wait more than about 2 weeks from now.

I'll upgrade a year or two down the line.
Sorry didn't see that. I guess by the time you upgrade you'll have a choice between AMD and 7nm intel. :messenger_beaming: (Seriously though by then I'd really be surprised if Intel hasn't gotten off of 14nm.)
 

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Waaahhh!



Waaaahhhhhhhh!



It's completely fucked. If I put pressure on it, it just bends like a wet noodle. It's probably been this way since day one, but I got lucky on my initial install and it worked, and I haven't moved it since installing it in Jan 2016. Something finally gave and it caught up to me almost 5 years later.

Of course it's the A1 slot, but the c1 and d1 slots are also affected and don't register. The stick that was in the slot is also fucked and doesn't work in any other slot.

So I'm unexpectedly in the market for a new mobo and CPU. Fortunately the system still works, but of the 64GB of ram I had, I can only use 48, and of the 8 DIMMs I have available, one is broken and I don't trust the two beside it. My 5820K is getting pretty old and I had planned on replacing it in 2018, but it's sad this happened as I had planned on making an emulator box out of my old parts.
 

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I'm thinking of building a pc for the first time in a long time. Probably something close to the $1000 builds in the OP.

One question I had was the OS. I want a legit copy of Windows X, but it's very expensive and my University doesn't have it. I heard kinguin.com offers guarantees now, but I don't know how reliable that or other discount sellers are.
 

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I heard kinguin.com offers guarantees now, but I don't know how reliable that or other discount sellers are.
Kinguin is fine. It's probably the best place the find relatively cheap but legal keys.
 

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You wanted blazing fast NVMe SSDs? Were you afraid your PCMR card was going to be pulled following PS5's announcement? Have you been struggling to laugh in the face of console peasants when they pointed out Sony's solution? Well fear no more, for the modest sum of a <shit-load of money> you too can be welcomed back into the club and we can laugh at these consoles players together once more!

Introducing the ADATA XPG Gammix S70


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It doesn't get much faster than this, not without PCIe 5.0. Enjoy!

 
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I know it's been a while since I've asked about it but since we're only a couple weeks out from the hopeful Ryzen 3 release I started doing a tentative build on PC Part Picker. Anybody know if a Tomahawk B550 is a decent AMD board? FWIW my tentative build has a 3700x as a place holder and of course we have no idea how any Ryzen 3 chip works in a given B550 motherboard but I figured I'd have a starting point.(Of course assuming Ryzen 3 is worth it and scalpers don't buy them all up as well as the 3070. Who know's I might swap out the Ryzen stuff for a 10700k and a Navi board. ) If anybody cares here's the link

Tentative build

Yes, I know the M.2 isn't PCI4 and I'm not sure if ryzen 3 comes with a cooler or not so those things can change.
 

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I know it's been a while since I've asked about it but since we're only a couple weeks out from the hopeful Ryzen 3 release I started doing a tentative build on PC Part Picker. Anybody know if a Tomahawk B550 is a decent AMD board? FWIW my tentative build has a 3700x as a place holder and of course we have no idea how any Ryzen 3 chip works in a given B550 motherboard but I figured I'd have a starting point.(Of course assuming Ryzen 3 is worth it and scalpers don't buy them all up as well as the 3070. Who know's I might swap out the Ryzen stuff for a 10700k and a Navi board. ) If anybody cares here's the link

Tentative build

Yes, I know the M.2 isn't PCI4 and I'm not sure if ryzen 3 comes with a cooler or not so those things can change.
The b550 tomahawk is good.

You can also look at the b550 Aorus Elite. It might be slightly cheaper and it's just as good in feature-set.

Edit: any reason you've selected that case? Are you going to be adding a media drive?
 
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The b550 tomahawk is good.

You can also look at the b550 Aorus Elite. It might be slightly cheaper and it's just as good in feature-set.

Edit: any reason you've selected that case? Are you going to be adding a media drive?
Yes, I'm going to be adding a blu-ray drive at some point. Seemed like a pretty nice case that had at least 2 fans and options to add a ODD. (A good portion of the newer cases don't have bays for it.)
 
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Yes, I'm going to be adding a blu-ray drive at some point. Seemed like a pretty nice case that had at least 2 fans and options to add a ODD. (A good portion of the newer cases don't have bays for it.)
Yeh fair enough then, it's a good case as long as you utilise those media bay slots. If not I was just going to suggest something slightly cheaper :)

Build looks good overall.
 
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Yeh fair enough then, it's a good case as long as you utilise those media bay slots. If not I was just going to suggest something slightly cheaper :)

Build looks good overall.
Mostly I'm doing that because I have more than a few PS2 and PS3 games that I might want to play on an emulator. (I have a PS3 that plays both but who knows how much longer it'll run. It's an original 60GB fat model with hardware support for the PS2.) On the plus side if I ever want to reuse the case in a non-ODD build the cages apparently come out.
 

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My PC finally arrived today.

CPU Ryzen 5 3600xt
MoBo: asus TUF x570 wifi
GPU: EVGA GeForce 2080S
RAM: G.skill ripjaw 32GB (16x2)
PSU: corsair rm 750x 80 gold
SSD: sabrent pcie 4 1tb
HDD: 1TB WD Blue
CPU Cooler: Hyper 212 EVO
some coolermaster case lol



Also ordered a new 27" IPS 1440p 144hz monitor that should get here tomorrow. Very excited! thanks a lot to BusierDonkey BusierDonkey again.


Now to actually build this thing up :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

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My PC finally arrived today.

CPU Ryzen 5 3600xt
MoBo: asus TUF x570 wifi
GPU: EVGA GeForce 2080S
RAM: G.skill ripjaw 32GB (16x2)
PSU: corsair rm 750x 80 gold
SSD: sabrent pcie 4 1tb
HDD: 1TB WD Blue
CPU Cooler: Hyper 212 EVO
some coolermaster case lol



Also ordered a new 27" IPS 1440p 144hz monitor that should get here tomorrow. Very excited! thanks a lot to BusierDonkey BusierDonkey again.


Now to actually build this thing up :messenger_tears_of_joy:
Looks like you're about to have a ton of fun. Congrats on the build.
 

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My PC finally arrived today.

CPU Ryzen 5 3600xt
MoBo: asus TUF x570 wifi
GPU: EVGA GeForce 2080S
RAM: G.skill ripjaw 32GB (16x2)
PSU: corsair rm 750x 80 gold
SSD: sabrent pcie 4 1tb
HDD: 1TB WD Blue
CPU Cooler: Hyper 212 EVO
some coolermaster case lol



Also ordered a new 27" IPS 1440p 144hz monitor that should get here tomorrow. Very excited! thanks a lot to BusierDonkey BusierDonkey again.


Now to actually build this thing up :messenger_tears_of_joy:
Looks like a good setup! Just make sure that your cables are firmly connected, and your GPU and RAM are firmly seated, and you'll be good to go. Oh, and don't forget that thermal paste on the CPU... unless you want to cook bacon on that sucker.
 

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Hey guys,

I want to build my first PC but I'm not sure about a few things, and I hope you guys can help me.

I want to use a single 2 TB M.2 SSD, but I didn't knew these drives existed until I read the first page of this thread. (I guess i'm getting old.) Are these drives usually used only for OS, or can it be used for programs and games as well? And does it need cooling?

I've seen people talking about airflow in a desktop, but I always thought the fans only blew outward. Should the fans on one side, like the front panel, blow inward, and the fans at the back panel outward?

(Sorry for these dumb questions, but I just want to be sure that I do things right. The last time I build a pc was roughly 10 year ago and I usually only buy complete desktops.)
 
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Hey guys,

I want to build my first PC but I'm not sure about a few things, and I hope you guys can help me.

I want to use a single 2 TB M.2 SSD, but I didn't knew these drives existed until I read the first page of this thread. (I guess i'm getting old.) Are these drives usually used only for OS, or can it be used for programs and games as well? And does it need cooling?

I've seen people talking about airflow in a desktop, but I always thought the fans only blew outward. Should the fans on one side, like the front panel, blow inward, and the fans at the back panel outward?

(Sorry for these dumb questions, but I just want to be sure that I do things right. The last time I build a pc was roughly 10 year ago and I usually only buy complete desktops.)
You can use that drive for both your OS and games, you don't need another drive really. Some people prefer to have the OS load in one drive and the games in another, but it is not necessary.

Regarding the fans, AFAIK (I could be wrong) the ones in the front of the case are meant to suck air INTO it in order get fresh air inside the case, while the one in the back is meant to expel hot air out of the case. I'm not entirely sure on the top fans if you have any.
 
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Regarding the fans, AFAIK (I could be wrong) the ones in the front of the case are meant to suck air INTO it in order get fresh air inside the case, while the one in the back is meant to expel hot air out of the case. I'm not entirely sure on the top fans if you have any.
You're right about the fans. From what I understand, the goal here is to balance the air flowing inward and outward; if you don't bring in enough fresh air, the inside of the case will have negative pressure, which will obviously not be as good for cooling, but also make your case very dirty.

I'm not sure about top-mounted fans; I've only seen them as part of an AIO where they blow outward, but maybe with some cases or builds you need to have the air intake on the top instead on the front?
 

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Woah, I still haven't finished with my build, I expected to take long due to having no prior experience. The Hyper 212 EVO install was nerve wracking, the amount of force you need to apply on that X bracket to get it to screw in made me think I was gonna snap my MoBo in half. Took me around 4 hours stuck on that part until I said fuck it and applied more force.


At least I suppose screwing the mobo into the case, doing all the connections, the PSU and the cable management shouldn't take as long, right? right? "pie_tears_joy:
 

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My PSU just died today. I hope it didn't take anything else with it. What should I get asap (I already have withdrawal symptoms, I hate using my phone for day to day stuff) that is affordable, long lasting and I can use for my current i73770K/GTX1080 and also keep for my future Zen3/RTX4070 or whatever setup? My dead one was a CoolerMaster Real Power M700. My case is a Corsair Carbide 400R. Brands and models that are likely to be available here pls so nothing too niche. Or check this which is where I price compare and find stuff. This is PSUs arranged by popularity. It's all in Greek but if you press the button on top left that has like equalizer type gauges icon you can choose to only show certain brands. Press the + at the last of the handful brands there to expand and show all.



God I hate having to redo my cabling and what not. Will I have to redo the little power switch cables and such or do those not lead back to the PSU, just the mobo?
 

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Hi All

Would be interested in thoughts on my planned build, prices are in AUD, Zen 3 and 3080 super prices are guestimates (I am going for bang for buck, I have no set budget but won't be dumping a fortune into a 3090):

• CPU
○ AMD Ryzen 7 4700X - $500 (when available)
• RAM
○ Patriot Viper 4 Blackout Series DDR4 16GB (2 x 8GB) 4400MHz Kit - $200
• Mainboard
○ MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI AM4 AMD X570 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard - $400
• PSU
○ Corsair CX750M - 750 Watt 80+ Bronze Modular Power Supply $149
• Case
○ Deepcool MATREXX 55 ATX Minimalist Tempered Glass Case - $88
○ upHere 3-Pack Long Life Computer Case Fan 120mm Cooling Case Fan for Computer Cases Cooling-12BK3-3 x 2 = 2 $39.00
• SSD
○ Corsair Force MP600 1TB NVMe PCIe x4 Gen4 SSD M.2(2280) - 3D TLC NAND 4950/4250 MB/s - $300
• GPU
  • EVGA 3080 Super (when available) $1350
Cheers
 
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Hi All

Would be interested in thoughts on my planned build, prices are in AUD, Zen 3 and 3080 super prices are guestimates (I am going for bang for buck, I have no set budget but won't be dumping a fortune into a 3090):

• CPU
○ AMD Ryzen 7 4700X - $500 (when available)
• RAM
○ Patriot Viper 4 Blackout Series DDR4 16GB (2 x 8GB) 4400MHz Kit - $200
• Mainboard
○ MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI AM4 AMD X570 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard - $400
• PSU
○ Corsair CX750M - 750 Watt 80+ Bronze Modular Power Supply $149
• Case
○ Deepcool MATREXX 55 ATX Minimalist Tempered Glass Case - $88
○ upHere 3-Pack Long Life Computer Case Fan 120mm Cooling Case Fan for Computer Cases Cooling-12BK3-3 x 2 = 2 $39.00
• SSD
○ Corsair Force MP600 1TB NVMe PCIe x4 Gen4 SSD M.2(2280) - 3D TLC NAND 4950/4250 MB/s - $300
• GPU
  • EVGA 3080 Super (when available) $750
Cheers
I think you can get 2x16GB ram at 3600 for that price, Zen3 may have faster mc, but i doubt it can hit 4400 comfortably.
Get more ram, and you can overclock 3600 -> 3800/4000 while at it.
Besides that 4400 kit has to run at an overclocked 1.45v.

I will push a bit more for a seasonic focus+ gold 750 or so.

I have the mp600, i wont pay $300 for it as its firmware have some bug on x570 where the speeds will drop randomly. Corsair and Phison havent able to fix it yet.
Perhaps look at the upcoming 7000mbs ones like samsung 980pro, or when the mp600 is $200-220.
 
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I think you can get 2x16GB ram at 3600 for that price, Zen3 may have faster mc, but i doubt it can hit 4400 comfortably.
Get more ram, and you can overclock 3600 -> 3800/4000 while at it.
Besides that 4400 kit has to run at an overclocked 1.45v.

I will push a bit more for a seasonic focus+ gold 750 or so.

I have the mp600, i wont pay $300 for it as its firmware have some bug on x570 where the speeds will drop randomly. Corsair and Phison havent able to fix it yet.
Perhaps look at the upcoming 7000mbs ones like samsung 980pro, or when the mp600 is $200-220.
Thats great advice on the memory and PSU, I see 4400 will be overkill and also didn't realise the mp600 had those issues! Cheers!
 
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Hi All

Would be interested in thoughts on my planned build, prices are in AUD, Zen 3 and 3080 super prices are guestimates (I am going for bang for buck, I have no set budget but won't be dumping a fortune into a 3090):

• CPU
○ AMD Ryzen 7 4700X - $500 (when available)
• RAM
○ Patriot Viper 4 Blackout Series DDR4 16GB (2 x 8GB) 4400MHz Kit - $200
• Mainboard
○ MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI AM4 AMD X570 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard - $400
• PSU
○ Corsair CX750M - 750 Watt 80+ Bronze Modular Power Supply $149
• Case
○ Deepcool MATREXX 55 ATX Minimalist Tempered Glass Case - $88
○ upHere 3-Pack Long Life Computer Case Fan 120mm Cooling Case Fan for Computer Cases Cooling-12BK3-3 x 2 = 2 $39.00
• SSD
○ Corsair Force MP600 1TB NVMe PCIe x4 Gen4 SSD M.2(2280) - 3D TLC NAND 4950/4250 MB/s - $300
• GPU
  • EVGA 3080 Super (when available) $750
Cheers
You are about $600+ short on that 3080S price.
 
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