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"I Need a New PC!" 2021. Sold Out Edition.

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How can I minimize the risk of burn in? is there something I can do ?
Don't leave the system idle with static images (I.e. the windows desktop/taskbar are prime examples of stuff that could burn in). Set a dimming feature to auto dim the display after a certain amount of idle time (10-20 minutes is good).

Modern OLEDs are way less prone to burn-in than the older models. Still worth protecting your display by taking precautions but it shouldn't be a deal-breaker for 99% of users.

Enjoy that new PC!
 
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As someone who was considering getting back into pc gaming after a 15 year hiatus, this is fucking ridiculous.

I put together a decent system, but there are zero acceptable GPUs to be found. Here in Canada, the retailers are scalping $1200 for a goddamn geforce 3060. That is more than the costs of every other component combined.

I can buy an equivalent pre-built system from dell, asus, whoever using virtually the same parts and pay only $1500 and get any GPU I want (base 3060 with cheap upgrade options). How can anyone justify building their own PC with this bullshit going on?

It makes me want to stick with my PS5.
 
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Don't leave the system idle with static images (I.e. the windows desktop/taskbar are prime examples of stuff that could burn in). Set a dimming feature to auto dim the display after a certain amount of idle time (10-20 minutes is good).

Modern OLEDs are way less prone to burn-in than the older models. Still worth protecting your display by taking precautions but it shouldn't be a deal-breaker for 99% of users.

Enjoy that new PC!

Yeah no harm for more precautions

Thanks man
 
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As someone who was considering getting back into pc gaming after a 15 year hiatus, this is fucking ridiculous.

I put together a decent system, but there are zero acceptable GPUs to be found. Here in Canada, the retailers are scalping $1200 for a goddamn geforce 3060. That is more than the costs of every other component combined.

I can buy an equivalent pre-built system from dell, asus, whoever using virtually the same parts and pay only $1500 and get any GPU I want (base 3060 with cheap upgrade options). How can anyone justify building their own PC with this bullshit going on?

It makes me want to stick with my PS5.
Yeah, it really sucks because on one hand PC gaming has been better than it ever has been (growing JP ports, etc.) but on the other the market is completely fucked.

If I look at my local Microcenter the cheapest reasonable GPU they have is a $479 1660 (not even a Super) and a 1660 has no right being nearly $500. Even the 1050ti they sell is nearly $300. Building your own PC right now is pointless IMO unless you get lucky and snag a GPU at MSRP (even then the majority of non FE cards are way overpriced).

All the supply constraints also mean we aren't going to get budget GPU tiers either because why would Nvidia spend valuable resources on a $229 GPU when the higher end GPUs still sell out 100% of the time.
 

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As someone who was considering getting back into pc gaming after a 15 year hiatus, this is fucking ridiculous.

I put together a decent system, but there are zero acceptable GPUs to be found. Here in Canada, the retailers are scalping $1200 for a goddamn geforce 3060. That is more than the costs of every other component combined.

I can buy an equivalent pre-built system from dell, asus, whoever using virtually the same parts and pay only $1500 and get any GPU I want (base 3060 with cheap upgrade options). How can anyone justify building their own PC with this bullshit going on?

It makes me want to stick with my PS5.
For the first time ever I'd recommend going prebuilt.

Hell, even buying two, parting them out and eBaying stuff/keeping what you want/need for your own build is a highly feasible strategy. I did that one year ago for my current rig and I damn near turned a profit.
 

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any recommendation for a Keyboard and a mouse ?
That’s highly personal.
i have razer ultimate mouse and razer huntsman mini keyboard.
The keyboard have some sticky keys software issue. Don’t bother me too much and it’s great otherwise but I can’t recommend it because of it.
viper mouse is fantastic. Just get one without a dock. It’s sucks ass.

for keyboard look into corsair k70 champion. Friend got it and it’s impressive. I prefer white keyboard myself but it’s solid
 
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Two months later I give up with this shit.

I figure I use CUDA every day anyway, strongly considering an A2/4/5K instead


Plus these days the pro drivers are not as shit as the Quadro drivers used to be!
Just announced:


No MSRP but A5ks are $2200 (and actually like $3800 on eBay) so this thing should come in under.

Now let's see if I get to buy one!
 

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That’s highly personal.
i have razer ultimate mouse and razer huntsman mini keyboard.
The keyboard have some sticky keys software issue. Don’t bother me too much and it’s great otherwise but I can’t recommend it because of it.
viper mouse is fantastic. Just get one without a dock. It’s sucks ass.

for keyboard look into corsair k70 champion. Friend got it and it’s impressive. I prefer white keyboard myself but it’s solid

Thanks for the info.

I looked and at the end I took these two :

MSI Vigor GK50 Elite Kailh Blue Gaming Keyboard

Logitech G502 HERO High Performance Gaming

Don't get me wrong the keyboard you mentioned is so good but its price is too high for a keyboard .. these two will do the job I hope. when it comes to the mouse I liked this one more tbh after a long read through them I decided to take Logitech
 
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As someone who was considering getting back into pc gaming after a 15 year hiatus, this is fucking ridiculous.

I put together a decent system, but there are zero acceptable GPUs to be found. Here in Canada, the retailers are scalping $1200 for a goddamn geforce 3060. That is more than the costs of every other component combined.

I can buy an equivalent pre-built system from dell, asus, whoever using virtually the same parts and pay only $1500 and get any GPU I want (base 3060 with cheap upgrade options). How can anyone justify building their own PC with this bullshit going on?

It makes me want to stick with my PS5.
Yep. I'm in Canada too and that's what is holding me back from building a PC. The GPU alone I want (RX 6800xt/RTX 3080) is around $1,800 CAD alone. Its absurd.
 

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I have all of my computers plugged into the same router, all using the same ISP. I'm not trying anything fancy at all.
I have used the built-in Windows (10) "Advanced Sharing" feature to allow for all of the machines to access each other.
This method has worked splendidly for months.

Now, after installing official Windows updates, none of the machines can see each other on the network. It's as if the entire thing has been eliminated.
And yet, all of them still have the proper settings. Everything is still, correctly, set to "Share."

Since the features are all set up correctly, I have no idea how to fix this problem.


Any ideas?

Quoting myself.
Since my last post, I have tried "resetting" the network by turning all of the computers back to super-private modes, then restarting all of the computers, then making sure I can't see them on the network, then setting them all back up to the proper "share" settings again, then restarting each one. It still doesn't work.


I'm trying to avoid buying a NAS, if I can help it. Even today, on Black Friday, they're ridiculously expensive.
Plus, a NAS wouldn't let me read/write files to each separate computer on my network, as far as I know.


I'd like to just get this fixed through Windows, but I'm open to suggestions.
Does anybody know of some good (free, preferably) software that would allow each of my computers to read/write to any drive on any of the machines on the network?
 

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Yep. I'm in Canada too and that's what is holding me back from building a PC. The GPU alone I want (RX 6800xt/RTX 3080) is around $1,800 CAD alone. Its absurd.

I saw that the MSRP for the 3060 is $400. Normally we would be paying less than that. To be asking triple that is laughable, especially when pre-builts are able to include GPUs at the normal price.
 
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is it necessary to use a thermal paste on GPU? and what is the best thermal solution for CPU ?
Thermal paste is pre-applied on GPUs, no need to change it unless you open the GPU. There is no need to open the GPU unless you plan on changing the cooler.

The best thermal solution for CPUs would be the biggest cooler that can fit in your case. AIO and air both have their own benefits. Most high end coolers come with small amount of thermal paste. In my experience getting more expensive thermal paste isn't worth it. Since I test many components I picked up a mini-tub of paste years ago that still works well for me.
 

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Yeah, it really sucks because on one hand PC gaming has been better than it ever has been (growing JP ports, etc.) but on the other the market is completely fucked.

If I look at my local Microcenter the cheapest reasonable GPU they have is a $479 1660 (not even a Super) and a 1660 has no right being nearly $500. Even the 1050ti they sell is nearly $300. Building your own PC right now is pointless IMO unless you get lucky and snag a GPU at MSRP (even then the majority of non FE cards are way overpriced).

All the supply constraints also mean we aren't going to get budget GPU tiers either because why would Nvidia spend valuable resources on a $229 GPU when the higher end GPUs still sell out 100% of the time.
My local Microcenter had some 3070 Ti's for around $800. There was a nice line. I congratulated everyone getting one. Saw some happy faces. My 3080 has been incredible hooked up to my C1 OLED. 120 Hz on an OLED is a true wonder.
 

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is it worth getting a new Alienware r13 w/ i9 12 gen - 64 ddr5 gig ram and 3060 Ti?

there is 12% cashback and they finally improved their chassis to a normal looking one.

1 can find the CPU locally, Mobo but no GPU or RAM...
 

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Thermal paste is pre-applied on GPUs, no need to change it unless you open the GPU. There is no need to open the GPU unless you plan on changing the cooler.

The best thermal solution for CPUs would be the biggest cooler that can fit in your case. AIO and air both have their own benefits. Most high end coolers come with small amount of thermal paste. In my experience getting more expensive thermal paste isn't worth it. Since I test many components I picked up a mini-tub of paste years ago that still works well for me.
These days I like using the Noctua NH-D15(s) for cooling my CPU. I don't want to take the chance of an AIO springing a leak and destroying components (i.e. GPU) that are almost impossible to replace. I use Noctua NT-H2 thermal compound for the CPU as well.
 

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Just built a PC for a mate of mine. Dude bought a 3070 for 1350 euro's.

It's bad out there.
 
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is it worth getting a new Alienware r13 w/ i9 12 gen - 64 ddr5 gig ram and 3060 Ti?

there is 12% cashback and they finally improved their chassis to a normal looking one.

1 can find the CPU locally, Mobo but no GPU or RAM...
That new case looks way better then old one for air flow for sure. Prob gonna want to swap out fans since they use loud cheap ones.
 
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These days I like using the Noctua NH-D15(s) for cooling my CPU. I don't want to take the chance of an AIO springing a leak and destroying components (i.e. GPU) that are almost impossible to replace. I use Noctua NT-H2 thermal compound for the CPU as well.
The chances of AIOs leaking are small enough that I am not worried about such things happening. The nicer looks of an AIO (compared to big air coolers) is a worthwhile trade-off for me at the moment.
 

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Received my pre-built HP Pavilion TG01-2170m. It was $900.

The RTX 3060 (12GB) card this came with, seems like it's about twice the raw power as my old AMD RX580. The system memory is 16GB DDR4 (like my last build) but speed went from 2400Mhz -> 3200Mhz. My last computer originally came with a 3.5 inch SSD, but I had replaced it last year with a high end Crucial 1TB NVMe drive. The new PC also had an NVMe but it was 256GB and slower, so I robbed that part from my old build. New PC has Windows 11, whereas my old PC was incompatible with the upgrade since it didn't have a TPM or a virtual TPM on the CPU. Speaking of the CPU, I went from a Ryzen 7 1700 to a Ryzen 5 5600G, which seems snappier. Physically, this computer is about half the size of my old one, so it looks a lot better on my desk.

Overall, I'd say it was a worthwhile upgrade for under $1,000. It's also the first and last time I've seen an RTX3000 series card for under a grand, and this came with a whole computer attached to it.
 

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any recommendation for a Keyboard and a mouse ?

Whatever you do, you might try to avoid anything "clicky" when it comes to mechanical keyboard switches.. It might drive yourself and the rest of the house crazy.. Getting rid of my Logitech Pro X with clicky blue switches was an actual relief.

There's a couple of million keyboard and mice out there.. and very few of us have tried them all... Look for aggregated reviews. I'm currently using a Logitech G Pro wireless mouse and a Logitech G815 keyboard with GL Tactile switches and I really like it.

Edit: oh, and about TKL keyboards (if you don't have one) ; I bought one but ended up hating the lack of a keypad. So just be aware not everyone is compatible with this trend.
 
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Received my pre-built HP Pavilion TG01-2170m. It was $900.

The RTX 3060 (12GB) card this came with, seems like it's about twice the raw power as my old AMD RX580. The system memory is 16GB DDR4 (like my last build) but speed went from 2400Mhz -> 3200Mhz. My last computer originally came with a 3.5 inch SSD, but I had replaced it last year with a high end Crucial 1TB NVMe drive. The new PC also had an NVMe but it was 256GB and slower, so I robbed that part from my old build. New PC has Windows 11, whereas my old PC was incompatible with the upgrade since it didn't have a TPM or a virtual TPM on the CPU. Speaking of the CPU, I went from a Ryzen 7 1700 to a Ryzen 5 5600G, which seems snappier. Physically, this computer is about half the size of my old one, so it looks a lot better on my desk.

Overall, I'd say it was a worthwhile upgrade for under $1,000. It's also the first and last time I've seen an RTX3000 series card for under a grand, and this came with a whole computer attached to it.

That's not bad at all. Enjoy.

What kind of monitor are you using?

The case looks rather compact.. is it easy to get into?
 

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That's not bad at all. Enjoy.

What kind of monitor are you using?
I've got a Samsung CF791. It's a few years old (I bought it the same time as my last PC, end of 2017) but it still looks damn impressive



It's a 34 inch curved, ultrawide 3440x1440, 100Hz refresh, freesync. No HDR, but otherwise it's basically all I could still ask for if I went to find a replacement.

The case looks rather compact.. is it easy to get into?
It's pretty compact but still really open. There is no optical drive or 3.5 inch HDD (although there is an enclosure for one that pops out). The rail along one side really only serves to keep the giant 3060 firmly in it's place. I swapped the NVMe drive with no problems, and I've got big hands. Surprisingly, not nearly as cramped as I would think.
 

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Received my pre-built HP Pavilion TG01-2170m. It was $900.

The RTX 3060 (12GB) card this came with, seems like it's about twice the raw power as my old AMD RX580. The system memory is 16GB DDR4 (like my last build) but speed went from 2400Mhz -> 3200Mhz. My last computer originally came with a 3.5 inch SSD, but I had replaced it last year with a high end Crucial 1TB NVMe drive. The new PC also had an NVMe but it was 256GB and slower, so I robbed that part from my old build. New PC has Windows 11, whereas my old PC was incompatible with the upgrade since it didn't have a TPM or a virtual TPM on the CPU. Speaking of the CPU, I went from a Ryzen 7 1700 to a Ryzen 5 5600G, which seems snappier. Physically, this computer is about half the size of my old one, so it looks a lot better on my desk.

Overall, I'd say it was a worthwhile upgrade for under $1,000. It's also the first and last time I've seen an RTX3000 series card for under a grand, and this came with a whole computer attached to it.
Crazy to think 3060 goes for almost the price u paid for it all…
 

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Crazy to think 3060 goes for almost the price u paid for it all…
Agreed. For example:


Exact same card I have, OEM model pulled from a Pavilion like mine. Asking $798. Tons of completed listings in the last 30 days going from $800-$850. Absolutely nuts.

So essentially, it's like I paid $100 for everything else. I'm okay with that.
 

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Agreed. For example:


Exact same card I have, OEM model pulled from a Pavilion like mine. Asking $798. Tons of completed listings in the last 30 days going from $800-$850. Absolutely nuts.

So essentially, it's like I paid $100 for everything else. I'm okay with that.
In this climate, that is indeed a solid win for you. Congratulations and hope you enjoy it. The 3060 is like a roided 1080 Ti because of the RTX features, so definitely not bad in the least. Enjoy again!
 
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The chances of AIOs leaking are small enough that I am not worried about such things happening. The nicer looks of an AIO (compared to big air coolers) is a worthwhile trade-off for me at the moment.
I personally like the look of the Noctua Chromax coolers better, but I get why others like an AIO. At the end of the day, it's all up to personal taste. I will be using my previous AIO in a secondary PC, so at least I'll get more use out of it.
 
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Agreed. For example:


Exact same card I have, OEM model pulled from a Pavilion like mine. Asking $798. Tons of completed listings in the last 30 days going from $800-$850. Absolutely nuts.

So essentially, it's like I paid $100 for everything else. I'm okay with that.
Got my new pc with the 3060 for $1200 abs I thought I did good, you sir did better :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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Intel 12900k
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G.Skill Trident 64gb 3600
NZXT kraken z73 320m
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3x lian I UNI fans
Lian li strimer 24pin and 8 pin rgb cables.
1tb Samsung Evo Pro 980 nvme.
1tb Western Digital nvme
500gb Samsung evo ssd
6tb Seagate HDD.


Some parts have carried over from my last build. Also need to do a bit of cable management
 
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As someone who was considering getting back into pc gaming after a 15 year hiatus, this is fucking ridiculous.

I put together a decent system, but there are zero acceptable GPUs to be found. Here in Canada, the retailers are scalping $1200 for a goddamn geforce 3060. That is more than the costs of every other component combined.

I can buy an equivalent pre-built system from dell, asus, whoever using virtually the same parts and pay only $1500 and get any GPU I want (base 3060 with cheap upgrade options). How can anyone justify building their own PC with this bullshit going on?

It makes me want to stick with my PS5.
Prebuilt are the way to go, got my PC from a company that's been doing it for 25 years. The average consumer simply does not have the connections to get a GPU.
 

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Who knows if this is true, but 500w GPU seems insane for consumer PCs with our current cooling solutions

 

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I've got a Samsung CF791. It's a few years old (I bought it the same time as my last PC, end of 2017) but it still looks damn impressive



It's a 34 inch curved, ultrawide 3440x1440, 100Hz refresh, freesync. No HDR, but otherwise it's basically all I could still ask for if I went to find a replacement.


It's pretty compact but still really open. There is no optical drive or 3.5 inch HDD (although there is an enclosure for one that pops out). The rail along one side really only serves to keep the giant 3060 firmly in it's place. I swapped the NVMe drive with no problems, and I've got big hands. Surprisingly, not nearly as cramped as I would think.

Nice, sometimes these cases can be really cramped so its good that they left some space in there.

Yeah, that monitor is great.. I'm yet to try a curved monitor, but I think my next one will probably be something like that.
 
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Who knows if this is true, but 500w GPU seems insane for consumer PCs with our current cooling solutions


Was always going to happen, amd is grinding there gears hard. They will want to drop a halo card specially if they don't move straight towards hopper.

There are 2 options here
1) Hopper wasn't ready
2) Nvidia thinks lovelace at massive wattage will be close enough to RDNA3 for them to drop it and they will just focus on RT and AI everywhere.

MCM is no joke. This is also why i will be selling of my 3080 the moment i know when those cards releases and just camp it out with a 1650 super in the meanwhile.

But anyway the ampere halo card was a 500w card already most likely, they just never bothered releasing it for the simple reason they where already on top.

The more interesting part is going to be is how they going to cool this. AIO is probably going to be dropped on those cards like what amd did already before once.
 
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Bought a Gigabyte monitor, no complaints about the monitor itself but the piece of shit stand makes the monitor sag 1cm on one side vs the other. How hard can it be to design this shit.
 
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But anyway the ampere halo card was a 500w card already most likely, they just never bothered releasing it for the simple reason they where already on top.

Good call.

I think RDNA3 will be the way to go for the next crop, but we will see. I bet the top tier RDNA3 will be pushing power consumption as well, not to 500w, but still higher than what I like..
 

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As someone who was considering getting back into pc gaming after a 15 year hiatus, this is fucking ridiculous.

I put together a decent system, but there are zero acceptable GPUs to be found. Here in Canada, the retailers are scalping $1200 for a goddamn geforce 3060. That is more than the costs of every other component combined.

I can buy an equivalent pre-built system from dell, asus, whoever using virtually the same parts and pay only $1500 and get any GPU I want (base 3060 with cheap upgrade options). How can anyone justify building their own PC with this bullshit going on?

It makes me want to stick with my PS5.
The whole market is wonky and honestly nonsensical. The budget RX570 I bought for under $150 a couple of years ago is now $400-$500. I can't believe anyone is actually paying these prices.
 
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I've got a Samsung CF791. It's a few years old (I bought it the same time as my last PC, end of 2017) but it still looks damn impressive



It's a 34 inch curved, ultrawide 3440x1440, 100Hz refresh, freesync. No HDR, but otherwise it's basically all I could still ask for if I went to find a replacement.


It's pretty compact but still really open. There is no optical drive or 3.5 inch HDD (although there is an enclosure for one that pops out). The rail along one side really only serves to keep the giant 3060 firmly in it's place. I swapped the NVMe drive with no problems, and I've got big hands. Surprisingly, not nearly as cramped as I would think.
Oh yeah i remember when they tried to make curved screens a thing...
 

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Good call.

I think RDNA3 will be the way to go for the next crop, but we will see. I bet the top tier RDNA3 will be pushing power consumption as well, not to 500w, but still higher than what I like..

RDNA2 was builded to compete with nvidia on the same power budget of a 2080ti. They never expected nvidia to move to 350+ watt cards to push performance forwards as there halo cards where designed around 300w. If AMD designed there RDNA2 around 350-500w. The performance would be straight up 50% higher already. This is why i said a while ago when ampere just launched that i didn't had the feeling that the 3090 was there halo card, but that they had a 500w or even higher monster card ready if amd would go that route. Instead they cut the card to the point they felt it was fine and competitive + yields high enough for fighting off AMD.

RDNA2 nvidia had lots of options to fight them.
- lower nm
- more watt
- 30% advantage already with turing over rdna1
- DLSS

So my logical conclusion at rdna2 reveal was, nvidia real struggle will start when RDNA3 starts to hit the market. That card will be a pain in the ass to compete against.
Because:
- No performance advantage
- RDNA3 will focus on high wattage also so no wattage tricks anymore ( big chance RDNA3 has a 500w if not a 600w halo card themselves this time around )
- MCM
- DLSS will probably be required to compete.

It's going to be interesting to see how nvidia is going to compete with this.

If i was nvidia i would do the following if hopper wasn't ready yet.

- increase wattage far above what amd delivers so 600w+
- bake dlss into the card itself so it does it automatically in every game without the need of additional software ( because reviewers )
- Drastically focus on DLSS quality improvement ( we already see this with 2.3, it will probably launch with 3.0 which could basically mean 1080p>4k without quality loss, intel also seems to focus on this ) ( that's 2x performance gain right there ), so only 100% increase in performance left needed which they could create easily.
- focus on features such as av1 ( next gen streaming nvenc ), AI, RT performance and a new form of DLSS maybe that is only possible on that gen card + RTX I/O
- Heavy invest into every game developers that matter, they already do this tho.
- hoping that RDNA3 and AMD do not have a DLSS alternative.
- MCM bootleg design, aka 2 gpu's on 1 card.

RDNA4 can be countered with hopper, as nothing about those cards is known.

I think something along the line of this would be the reality.

This is also why i think my 3080 is a dud of a card specially if amd and nviida drop a ton of v-ram on those cards. the 3080 will practically be a 2060 at that point. I will be selling my 3080 off while the prices are still high for sure once the announcement of the cards happen.Even if that means i will be sitting for a few months if not half a year on a 1650 super, to not have 2080ti price drops happening again ( hope mining prices stay high tho )

however the good thing is high resolution high hz gaming will finally be a thing and 8k will finally be achievable.
 
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Warnen

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Oh yeah i remember when they tried to make curved screens a thing...

:messenger_tears_of_joy: My curved tv has been moved to kids play room, hopefully they throw a shoe into it or something and break it so it can be replaced.
 
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Warnen

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There was a rtx drop on Best Buy this morning didn’t get shit but amazon wearhouse did a drop on returned stuff and scored a rtx 3070 under retail. Be here Monday so let’s see if it works :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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Looking for a cheap 32:9 that I can replace my dual monitor setup with. Is there such a monitor out there that isn’t ultra expensive?!
Not needed for gaming, just basic office work.
 
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There was a rtx drop on Best Buy this morning didn’t get shit but amazon wearhouse did a drop on returned stuff and scored a rtx 3070 under retail. Be here Monday so let’s see if it works :messenger_tears_of_joy:
I gave up on the Best Buy drops a long time ago. Even with jumping on them very quickly, you still get wrecked. *Shrug*

Congrats on scoring the 3070 though!
 
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Do you guys think it is worth paying the DDR5 premium for future-proofing a 12600K build currently? First and foremost, I'll use it for gaming and the current benchmarks I've seen don't show a significant increase in performance, if any. But I guess that could change with future games?
 

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Do you guys think it is worth paying the DDR5 premium for future-proofing a 12600K build currently? First and foremost, I'll use it for gaming and the current benchmarks I've seen don't show a significant increase in performance, if any. But I guess that could change with future games?
There is no future proofing with computers. By the time you see any payoff in performance for paying that premium you will be looking at upgrading the whole damn thing anyway. Just focus on 10th gen Intel and get a DDR4 platform, and save the $$$ now and worry about buying the next level of X parts when they become standard not the bleeding edge of technology.

I bought a Pentium 4 w/ RAMBUS when Intel had its fall in early 2000s. That was a mistake. Don't be me. Buy what is the best performing value proposition now. Enjoy it for 4-5 years and look for the next upgrade.
 

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Do you guys think it is worth paying the DDR5 premium for future-proofing a 12600K build currently? First and foremost, I'll use it for gaming and the current benchmarks I've seen don't show a significant increase in performance, if any. But I guess that could change with future games?

DDR5 is stupidly expensive as of now. I would skip.

Like the other guy said, buy a 12700k or a 5800x/5900x whatever floats your boat, get 32gb of memory 2x16 and a 7gbps SSD. and u are good to go for the next 5 years.

With 12700k some boards have ddr4 + pci-e 5.0 for the GPU, so u could get that going to get some more gpu bandwidth ( not like u actually need it but whatever ).
 
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