Ninja Scooter said:
when are you guys gonna bring back the high top fade? High top>>>>corn rows. The high top fade was like the golden age of black people. C'mon!! BRING IT BACK!

If they ever bring that shit back, I will piss blood before I get my hair cut that way again. When I look at pictures of what I looked like when I had it, I realize how stupid I looked. I had it for 3 years, and it was close to the same height Kid (from Kid and Play) had it.


Why won't homeless people take my emails????????
Jun 11, 2004
Ninja Scooter said:
when are you guys gonna bring back the high top fade? BRING IT BACK!
When Hell freezes over and Satan gives free sleigh rides.

Son of Godzilla said:
Also I know there was just a huge discussion on this, but what do you think of the Confederate flag?
I, personally, associate the Confederate flag with slavery.
Jun 7, 2004
loxy said:
Why are black people treated as a collective group that thinks and behaves one way more so than other races?
Because the news and other forms of media only show one side, which is a side that every race or nationality has.

You see us in entertainment, sports, and your local news. To tell you the truth I don't know. I'm amazed everytime I see Oprah show packed with white women as the majority of her audience. We're such a large part of entertainment, and sports that its assumed if your living the luxurious life of the rich and famous you must be in entertainment or playing sports.

Entertainment and Sports since the 1930's have been the acceptable and easiest way to get out of the ghetto. Its also up to each person to realize that what they see on T.V, Film and magazines are not a accurate representation of the majority in any race.
All Asians know Kung Fu, things like that are just not true.

The truth is that we all are apart of everything under the song.
Jun 11, 2004
I know there was a question about why Blacks vote overwhelmingly Democratic. This is one of the reasons. I'll highlight the parts that I find important.

CNN) -- NAACP Chairman Julian Bond called on members of the nation's largest and oldest civil rights organization to boost voter turnout to help oust President Bush.

During his keynote speech at the group's 95th annual convention Sunday night in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Bond also assailed the Bush administration and the Republican Party, accusing the GOP of "playing the race card in election after election."

1. The party appeals "to the dark underside of American culture, to the minority of Americans who reject democracy and equality," Bond said. "They preach neutrality and practice racial division."

Many black people are "ready to turn anger into action, to work for regime change here at home," Bond said. "But they have to be asked. They have to be registered, organized and mobilized."

In the address, posted on the group's Web site, Bond took aim at virtually all the administration's top domestic and foreign policies.

Bond became NAACP board chairman in 1998. He was a Georgia legislator for 20 years, and during the 1960s civil rights movement, he was a leader in the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee.

Leaders of the Baltimore, Maryland-based National Association for the Advancement of Colored People are upset that Bush will not speak to the convention this year.

2. The White House said Bush had a scheduling conflict, but Bush also has described his relationship with the NAACP leadership as "basically nonexistent."

"You've heard the rhetoric and the names they've called me," he said last week.

"The current leadership of the NAACP has certainly made some rather hostile political comments about the president over the past few years," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said Friday.

3. Bush is the first president since the 1930s not to speak at the NAACP convention, though he did so as a candidate in 2000.

At the 2001 convention, which was held before the September 11 attacks, Bond sharply criticized some of Bush's political appointments, saying that he "selected nominees from the Taliban wing of American politics, appeased the wretched appetites of the extreme right wing and chosen Cabinet officials whose devotion to the Confederacy is nearly canine in its uncritical affection."

Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, is scheduled to speak at the convention Thursday.

4. National security adviser Condoleezza Rice defended Bush's record Monday as "impeccable on civil rights, impeccable on the interests of African-Americans, and I'm quite comfortable with his decision."

She told CNN the "No Child Left Behind" act, an overhaul of public education that Bush signed into law in 2001, challenges the "soft bigotry" of low expectations for black children. (Interactive: The 'No Child Left Behind' Act of 2001)

Rice noted that Bush has appointed blacks "to some of the highest positions in this government to which they've ever been appointed." Rice is black, as is Secretary of State Colin Powell.

5. NAACP President Kweisi Mfume told reporters he has reached out to Bush numerous times in hopes of meeting with him.

"The president never wrote me back," he said. "I always got a letter from someone else in the White House stating his schedule did not permit such a meeting and they would get back with me ... and they never did.

"Two days ago, President Bush made his 30th visit to Pennsylvania. ... Yet he couldn't come to Pennsylvania to speak to us," Mfume said.

Mfume lashed out at Bush for choosing Martin Luther King's birthday last year to announce the administration's stance against an affirmative action program at the University of Michigan.

He said Bush used the same date this year "to unilaterally elevate Charles Pickering to the federal [appellate] bench -- in the face of Pickering's hostility to civil rights and leniency to cross burners."

The Bush administration has said Pickering, who was a federal district court judge, has a strong record on civil rights, and some black attorneys who have worked with him in Mississippi agree.

Bond also lambasted Bush and Republican leaders on a long roster of issues.

"They've tried to patch the leaky economy -- and every other domestic problem -- with duct tape and plastic sheets, " Bond said. "They write a new constitution for Iraq and ignore the Constitution here at home.

"They say giving health care to all Iraqis is sound policy; they say giving health care to all Americans is socialism."

Bond criticized Democrats as well, complaining they are too often "not an opposition; they're an amen corner. With some notable exceptions, they have been absent without leave from this battle for America's soul. When one party is shameless, the other party cannot afford to be spineless."

The NAACP is a nonpartisan organization, Bond said, "but that doesn't mean we're noncritical."

"The differences between the candidates this year are neither incremental nor inconsequential. Yes, the stakes are high, higher than ever in recent memory, and the consequences of loss almost too dire to bear."

He pointed to the 2000 presidential election, when some blacks were inaccurately listed as felons and not allowed to vote, particularly in Florida.

Some black voters reported being stopped by police near polling sites or being asked for multiple forms of identification while white voters were not. Government investigations reported no evidence supporting the allegations.

"We must guarantee the irregularities, suppression, nullification, and outright theft of black votes that happened on Election Day 2000 never, ever happen again," Bond said.

"Any NAACP branch that isn't registering voters ought to turn in its charter."

Bond said NAACP volunteers in 11 key states, including Georgia, Florida, Tennessee and New Mexico, have so far registered more than 100,000 voters.

Now then while I don't march lockstep with the NAACP as a black person I do see it as a bellweather as to where a canidate puts his priorties. To me it is nothing more than hob nobbing in a church, or a picnic event. Remember that a canidate is looking for support a should be willing or able to explain and/or defend his/her point of view. What it comes off as saying is "You as black people aren't important enough for me to notice".

I numbered the bold so I can address them one by one.

1. This is the feel that Blacks get from the GOP. The GOP represents to many Blacks (myself included) instutionalized racism and fear mongering. Any Black that affilates with that party is seen as a abjuration and a Uncle Tom of the worst stripe.

2. Is this the best excuese you can come up with for the last 4 years. He was able to meet when he was running for President. If the leader of the party can't take time out to meet then why would anyone in the party think it's important to meet with Black folks on anything? Even if he did get assailed, he could at least say I went and met and conveyed my ideas. While that wouldn't have changed how I would have voted you could say at least he is making an attempt.

3. Even Reagan and Bush I who were much more reviled than the current President (historically speaking) made time.

4. This is grating as well. Anytime Bush has a race problem or a PR problem he hauls out his "tokens" to show some of his closest friends are Black. But, it looks fake and knowing that he didn't listen to Powell shows us how much he thinks of his Black friends.

5. Been there 30 times in the past 4 years and can't make it for one event?

Bottom line is that the Democratic party is a party of inclusion. It is a party that really works like the parliamentary system. Behind all the labels you have a party that has to represent women, minorties, gays, unions, teachers, etc. These groups have often times contradictory agendas and it is up to the leadership to cultivate this into some cohesive platform. That is no easy task. The GOP doesn't have the various groups that you have to get to stand in line, you won't see the pro-lifers duking it out for time aganist the pro-death penalty folk. You won't see the fiscal conservative wing in battle with the pro-gun wing.


Jun 7, 2004
Fifty said:
Then don't bump the thread :p
Fifty. Why do so many blacks wear coats designed with such an outlandish fashion such as the one the person in your avatar is sporting? I wear a nice, thin hand-sewn yellow sweater I bought from Newberries with a picture of Mr. Rodgers on the back to work everyday, and I still get the digits from hos. So can you explain what the deal is?
Jun 6, 2004
Very good question! I attribute it to the general population's lack of confidence, and cold hard cash. Ray Lewis can afford a giant fur coat, and no one will want to make fun of him while he's wearing it....Unlike the average joe wearing zee coat.