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IAEA to find radioactive material in violation of nuke deal - report

cryptoadam

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The IAEA has found signs of radioactive material which would violate the 2015 nuclear deal at an Iranian nuclear site identified to the agency by Israeli intelligence, Channel 13 reported late Thursday.

According to Channel 13, top Israeli sources revealed to it that the IAEA is sitting on the information and has avoided making it public to date.In April, Reuters reported that the IAEA had finally visited the secret Iranian nuclear site at Turquzabad revealed in a September 2018 UN speech by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Since then, all parties to the US-Iran nuclear standoff have been waiting for the IAEA’s June announcement of its findings from that visit.

During that visit, the IAEA took samples from the site and it had been expected to announce the results of the samples in June, but then did not mention the issue.

Rather, the IAEA and other parties more recently have been distracted by Iran's open violations of uranium enrichment limits.
Could be huge if true. Remember when Bibi was talking about all this stuff and was laughed at. Well this is one of the sites he was talking about. Will the IAEA release its report now and validate or deny this report? Lets see.
 
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Dontero

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bUt TrUmP bRoKe ThE dEaL wItH nO eViDeNcE
Why? Are we already pivoting from "Iran is innocent" to "Iran needs the nukes because warmonger USA?"
We are not pivoting anywhere. We are saying that once they get nukes they magically will disappear from your any many idiots compass alltogether like they never existed and any news or info about them will be in same vein as any other nation.

Much like Pakistan which suddenly completely dissipated from map of evil once they got nukes.

You see nukes have this ability to really really really good way to stop anyone from doing anything to you.
 

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We are not pivoting anywhere. We are saying that once they get nukes they magically will disappear from your any many idiots compass alltogether like they never existed and any news or info about them will be in same vein as any other nation.

Much like Pakistan which suddenly completely dissipated from map of evil once they got nukes.

You see nukes have this ability to really really really good way to stop anyone from doing anything to you.
Your view of history is rather simplistic, and it seems like your focus is more on how this will be a "gotcha" for the USA instead of the consequences for the region.

It's funny how Pakistan gets brought up because they too started with promises of non-weaponized research into nuclear power. You're only strengthening the case that the deal with Iran has been a sham and Iran entered it with no intention to follow it.

You might handwave that and say "yeah but when they get nukes the USA will forget". Perhaps. That doesn't excuse Iran's deceptiveness. Rather, it affirms that Trump's choice to pull out of the deal is a correct one.
 
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It's funny how Pakistan gets brought up because they too started with promises of non-weaponized research into nuclear power. You're only strengthening the case that the deal with Iran has been a sham and Iran entered it with no intention to follow it.
Here is the deal. Either you want nukes or you don't. If you want nukes then Iran should have them too.
If you don't want them then you should be opposed to US having them.

Fact is that nukes are best peace guarantee especially when we talk about US which is in middle east since forever fucking things up left and right.
 

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Here is the deal. Either you want nukes or you don't. If you want nukes then Iran should have them too.
If you don't want them then you should be opposed to US having them.
In a perfect world, we'd have no nukes. So there's my answer: I oppose the US from having them too. The Cold War taught us that escalating political conflict with world-ending arsenals pointed at one another was not "peace" at all. It is why mutual disarmament has been a thing for decades.

But because nukes exist and the collateral damage is extremely high -- even to nations outside of the conflict -- it is in everyone's best interest to gauge who has nukes and how we can prevent unstable regions from obtaining them. It is the same reason why we forbid chemical weapons and the international community cracks down on countries that make them. One could make the exact same excuse for chemical weapons -- "they are best peace guarantee" -- yet they are not permitted.

Why?

Iran's state-sponsored terrorism factors in big-time here, but you handwave that. You need a big bad USA boogeyman to justify a terrorist-funding gov't obtaining weapons that can be used for terrorism. Not for national defense, but terrorism.

Fact is that nukes are best peace guarantee especially when we talk about US which is in middle east since forever fucking things up left and right.
Oh, now I know you are uneducated on history. Go take a peek at the history of the Ottoman empire and how Europeans handled the breakup of territories following World War 1.

I learned this narrative in grade-school too: USA bad. USA warmonger. USA want oil.

But the modern version of "history" brushed aside the demands our allies our allies our allies were making , the encroachment of the USSR, and the rapid proliferation of nuclear weapons. In a post-Cold War world, we've completely forgotten why that happened at all. Must be nice to experience peace and prosperity off the back of a capitalist nation and then turn around and blame them for it all. This is why I fully support the withdrawal of the USA from the Iran nuclear deal, from NATO, and from mopping up international problems (most of them due to European empire-building 200 years prior to WW2).

It is apparent that when the USA spends its efforts securing international trade routes and rebuilding nations, it doesn't pay off for us. We just get blamed for acting as mercenaries for our allies.

Now the narrative is: USA is warmonger, communism isn't that bad, nukes are for self-defense, and the British totally aren't trying to destabilize Iran for their oil.

"Nukes are best peace guarantee" in 2019, folks.

 
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"Nukes are best peace guarantee" in 2019, folks.
Wars involving two countries who have nukes:

0

current year knowledge.

Iran's state-sponsored terrorism factors in big-time here, but you handwave that. You need a big bad USA boogeyman to justify a terrorist-funding gov't obtaining weapons that can be used for terrorism. Not for national defense, but terrorism.
Amount of people who died due to Iran "terrorism" actions: couple of 100s at best.

Amount of people who died due to US "freedom exchange" couple of milions at this point. Iraq alone is at 1mln+ deaths caused by war and ensuing destruction of infrastructure that led to famine.
Right now Iran is bared from buying even medicine which directly kills people

But let us talk about all those wars and terrorism of Iran.

current year knowledge.