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IBM Revolution CPU listed in roadmap?

Tenacious-V

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The 750cXe (at 485MHz) was the Gekko. So going by what Ninty said, the 750GL seems to be the evolution of Gekko... for Revolution!?! Clocked at 933MHz..
 
Tenacious-V said:
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The 750cXe (at 485MHz) was the Gekko. So going by what Ninty said, the 750GL seems to be the evolution of Gekko... for Revolution!?! Clocked at 933MHz..

Nice find! I said as much at B3D last year. This is probably what 750GX morphed into.
 
Certainly could be. :)


That's probably the best we have to go on. Assuming what the devs were using was actually indicative of the final spec Revolution. I imagine they could just downclock it to run BC with the cube, instead of emulating it. Or hell I guess they could just let it fly as is. Would be nice if cube game performance could benefit directly.
 
Can you expect much of a performance difference from say a 450MHz clock bump?

(not taking into account any refinements they may have incorporated since Gekko)
 
Tenacious-V said:
Can you expect much of a performance difference from say a 450MHz clock bump?

Yes, but does that potential Rev CPU have the same amount of cache and whatnot? I would rather it be a different architecture with more L2 instead of just faster clocks. And who knows about how the clock speed is derived on these anyway? How does it figure in front side bus? Because it wouldn't be as significant if they just doubled the multiplier or something.


The world may never know....
 
Xdrive05 said:
Yes, but does that potential Rev CPU have the same amount of cache and whatnot? I would rather it be a different architecture with more L2 instead of just faster clocks. And who knows about how the clock speed is derived on these anyway? How does it figure in front side bus? Because it wouldn't be as significant if they just doubled the multiplier or something.


The world may never know....

In addition to faster clock, this should have more L2 cache and VMX SIMD units added as well.
 
Shogmaster said:
In addition to faster clock, this should have more L2 cache and VMX SIMD units added as well.

Nice! Is clock speed on these things measured like an Athlon XP or something? Like multiplier times front side bus? I have no idea how these architectures work compared to 32bit PC.
 
Shogmaster said:
Nice find! I said as much at B3D last year. This is probably what 750GX morphed into.

It's a low power GX, you can find info on it on IBM's site if you'd look. (it's been there for quite some time)
 
Xdrive05 said:
Nice! Is clock speed on these things measured like an Athlon XP or something? Like multiplier times front side bus? I have no idea how these architectures work compared to 32bit PC.

It's just like that AFAIK. I'd imagine this thing having either 133MHz or 266MHz FSB.

Eric_S said:
It's a low power GX, you can find info on it on IBM's site if you'd look. (it's been there for quite some time)

Well shit... Where the heck were you 6 months ago when we were talking about exactly this?
 
Where's Moku? We finally have a Revolution topic with a picture in it! :lol

P.S. That's a halfway decent-looking processor. It won't necessarily be the one used, though -- isn't Rev's processor a custom one? I guess this 750GL gives us an idea of what its specs will be similar to, though.
 
1mb L2 cache would rock. That's four times what the Gamecube had. If it has 1mb L2 and twice the clockspeed, and parallel processing thinga-mabobbers... that's not too bad at all.

No, it's not a Cell or a Xenos (as far as we speculate), but that doesn't mean it's worthless either.

I'd hit it.
 
Be excited be be excited

iwata got juice iwata got juice heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey iwata got juice
 
Xdrive05 said:
1mb L2 cache would rock. That's four times what the Gamecube had. If it has 1mb L2 and twice the clockspeed, and parallel processing thinga-mabobbers... that's not too bad at all.

No, it's not a Cell or a Xenos (as far as we speculate), but that doesn't mean it's worthless either.

I'd hit it.


OK, how much better exactly?


I mean aren't even the earliest xbox360 devkits more powerful than that? Look at what we got at launch, not even close to a huge jump in graphics from this generation, and I'm sure those games use a lot more power than the early devkits.

And if the graphics chip takes approximately the same jump in power as the processor (yeah we're assuming but whatever) then what kind of graphics should we expect from that combination? Cleaned-up GCN stuff? Half-Life 2? That half-life 2 tech demonstration thing I've seen people post pics of all the time showcasing HDR lightening? KILLZONE? :lol



:'(
 
Chrono said:
OK, how much better exactly?


I mean aren't even the earliest xbox360 devkits more powerful than that? Look at what we got at launch, not even close to a huge jump in graphics from this generation, and I'm sure those games use a lot more power than the early devkits.

And if the graphics chip takes approximately the same jump in power as the processor (yeah we're assuming but whatever) then what kind of graphics should we expect from that combination? Cleaned-up GCN stuff? Half-Life 2? That half-life 2 tech demonstration thing I've seen people post pics of all the time showcasing HDR lightening? KILLZONE? :lol



:'(


GODDAMNIT, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE WAND NOT THE GRAPHICS!!!!
 
Chrono said:
OK, how much better exactly?


I mean aren't even the earliest xbox360 devkits more powerful than that? Look at what we got at launch, not even close to a huge jump in graphics from this generation, and I'm sure those games use a lot more power than the early devkits.

And if the graphics chip takes approximately the same jump in power as the processor (yeah we're assuming but whatever) then what kind of graphics should we expect from that combination? Cleaned-up GCN stuff? Half-Life 2? That half-life 2 tech demonstration thing I've seen people post pics of all the time showcasing HDR lightening? KILLZONE? :lol



:'(

Well, one thing we have to remember is that the Revolution and the Cube both have similar architechture, so it's not like developers are going to be completely unfamiliar with the Revolutions enviornment. They should be able to get the most out of Revo much more faster and easier then that of the other two consoles. In the end though, its most likely that it will definitely lack in graphical capabilities that the 360 and PS3 have. But then again, its not about the graphics. It's about the kick ass wonder wand! :D :D :D
 
I highly doubt the exact Broadway (Rev CPU) is on this roadmap but it's reasonable to assume Broadway has been derived from one of these.
 
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