The guy got egg on his face, just leave it at that. There's no shame in him blasting through on casual, giving it a low score, etc. There is shame in lying (more than likely) in a public forum, and then going the extra step to call out said developer like HE did something wrong because you got caught. THAT is the problem.
MrPliskin said:Lots of spaces between sentences there...anyway, no one in this thread has contested his score, just his opinions and statements. Not only does that particular line tell of a person who blasted through the game hastily to get a review out the door, but the twitter posts further contribute to the madness. Had he beat it on both, he would have known to the contrary. The issue isn't his thoughts with regards to the game, rather, the fact that someone from the studio told him "hey, there's a cutscene if you beat it on Normal" (basically an FYI).
The guy got egg on his face, just leave it at that. There's no shame in him blasting through on casual, giving it a low score, etc. There is shame in lying (more than likely) in a public forum, and then going the extra step to call out said developer like HE did something wrong because you got caught. THAT is the problem.
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@DaemZero you didn't play it on normal (as is obvious from your review) - completing it on casual doesn't unlock the last epic stage
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Cuthbert. Jobe is warhawk/starhawk D:MrPliskin said:Doeant matter, stage or no stage, he still wasn't truthful and tried to paint a picture of Jobe as an angry developer seeking a change in score, which was NEVER the case.
MrPliskin said:Doeant matter, stage or no stage, he still wasn't truthful and tried to paint a picture of Jobe as an angry developer seeking a change in score, which was NEVER the case.
Yea, sorry about the name, and no, it's not am exaggeration. Cuthbert simply tells him to finish on normal for the level (cutscene) and Deamon gets salty and says he did, then accuses Cuthbert of getting upset with him in his blog that he wrote ONLY so he could try to save face. Why are you defending him? I really don't understand it.Gamer @ Heart said:That is an extreme exaggeration. Also, the name is wrong.
MrPliskin said:Yea, sorry about the name, and no, it's not am exaggeration. Cuthbert simply tells him to finish on normal for the level (cutscene) and Deamon gets salty and says he did, then accuses Cuthbert of getting upset with him in his blog that he wrote ONLY so he could try to save face. Why are you defending him? I really don't understand it.
NervousXtian said:It is an exaggeration of the situation, and again you are adding your own spin to the events.
..and Dylan, I do appreciate you posting here, and I'm glad you own up to misspeaking, and it's obvious you take a lot of pride in your game.
Your games done, you should kick back with a few drinks and relax. This will all fade in to the depths soon enough.
Was this the guy that was mentioning stuff from an old fact sheet, like ghost runs?HiVision said:We've had this happen before on our games with the "first to press" reviews that are always rushed to get the page hits, so I always fight against them - there was one review for Shooter 2 where the reviewer had obviously only played a few stages right at the beginning and then assumed all kinds of stuff about the rest of the game. When I pointed this out on twitter the site apologised and re-did the review (and score as it happens), instead of going back and editing out the bits in the review that gave that away as IGN did!
kassatsu said:Was this the guy that was mentioning stuff from an old fact sheet, like ghost runs?
Corran Horn said:Interesting read.
Wait Dylan posts here?
Plz make another monsters game for ps3/psp/vita. Ill pay like 100 dollars for it
Not sure if you had more success with shooter, but I would've preferred a sequel to Monsters instead (exp doesn't count).HiVision said:Have you tried the facebook version we in the middle of making? It's pretty cool you know: http://apps.facebook.com/pjmonsters
web01 said:Sad that this thread is still going.
The IGN guy clearly played the game, Cuthbert only called him out on the tiny mistake because he was pissed about the score then it was actually him telling lies about the unloclable stage whic is really an extra ending scene.
People are coming and posting in thread to jump on the bash IGN bandwagon when they do not even know what happened.
Welp you got me to play a facebook game.HiVision said:Have you tried the facebook version we in the middle of making? It's pretty cool you know: http://apps.facebook.com/pjmonsters
He claims to be a shoot em up fan, yet disdains the arcade style lack of RPG-like progression, claims the game is too short while credit feeding on the easiest mode, and fails to explain why he doesn't like the scoring system. Typical crap review.
mjemirzian said:He claims to be a shoot em up fan, yet disdains the arcade style lack of RPG-like progression, claims the game is too short while credit feeding on the easiest mode, and fails to explain why he doesn't like the scoring system. Typical crap review.
Don't you mean 'so they can't chain the entire game ala Dodonpachi'? I'm only aware of the term 'no miss' which means clearing the game without dying.DCharlie said:i'm not defending the review or anything like that because i've not read it, i've played levels 1-1 , 1-2, 1-3 and 3-1 so far and i like the game
HOWEVER
i can see several reasons why -hardcore- shmup fans aren't going to click with the game. Now bear in mind this is the sort of people who 1CC Maniac modes for breakfast. The hooks are much simpler and less balls out crazy in PJSS - there's also a slight bit of inertia (or some control "foible" (?)) that they'll pick up on. If the chain doesn't carry level to level so they can no-hit clear the game, it's a problem etc etc.
I have no idea if the IGN reviewer is like this, nor does it absolve any blame for inaccurate statements in the review, however there -are- going to be some 'legit' gripes from some segments of Shmupland. I can GUARANTEE it.
Personally? loving what i've played so far. Reminds me of so many games all at the same time.
Don't you mean 'so they can't chain the entire game ala Dodonpachi'? I'm only aware of the term 'no miss' which means clearing the game without dying.
You may be right, but I think a fair review would indicate what type of player would be most pleased by the game, before (or rather than) inserting their own biases and damning anyone else who might dare enjoy it.
Yup. Can't appreciate a quality shmup, thinks they should all be $1 and played for 1-2 hours at most then thrown in the proverbial bin. His review made it clear that he treated the game as such.Riposte said:My thoughts once I found out he was a shooter fan. There is this weird subset of shooter fans which treat all shooters like something on a fastfood dollar menu.
If you're going to attach yourself emotionally to a gaming website you could do much better than IGN.web01 said:People are coming and posting in thread to jump on the bash IGN bandwagon when they do not even know what happened.
DCharlie said:yes, full chain the game like DDP. It doesn't kill the game at all for 99% of people but you just know Shmups.com or similar place will be all over it. That said - i don't think PJSS is positioning itself to be a new Danmaku king - it's just doing it's own brand of fun shooting, which i think it is what i enjoyed about the short play i had.
diffusionx said:I don't know what you expect. Do those people keep up on game news every day? Do they post on game sites like you do? Are they as passionate about games as you are?
Answer to all those questions is probably "no." That's why they rely on reviews. They are human and have other interests and just want to enjoy a popular game for a bit. I don't read game reviews but I do read movie and music reviews to decide what to consume. Why? Because I don't have the time or energy to go hunting through the endless piles of new stuff to find what is aligned to my taste. Because I am not so knowledgeable and up-to-date that I can intuitively grasp what I would enjoy. It's life, man.
To them, you just sound like a nerd/asshole/snob.
Your right it seems like the one's defending IGN have really no clue what happened, he didn't play the game fully than get's called out about it, lies than changes some text in his review because he was wrong.web01 said:Sad that this thread is still going.
The IGN guy clearly played the game, Cuthbert only called him out on the tiny mistake because he was pissed about the score then it was actually him telling lies about the unlockable stage which is really just an extra ending scene.
People are coming and posting in thread to jump on the bash IGN bandwagon when they do not even know what happened.
I don't think there's anything wrong with someone playing on casual/easy difficulty but if someone is reviewing it, they should at least try it on normal especially a game like this which is more of a shooter.Apoc87 said:What's the GAF consensus on casual/easy difficulty?
Why so much hate?
Make sure - I repeat, make sure to play through the game so you get to see the Last Level. It's simply pure genius right there.DCharlie said:i'm not defending the review or anything like that because i've not read it, i've played levels 1-1 , 1-2, 1-3 and 3-1 so far and i like the game.
I think he played the game fully. If he knew it just dumps you back to title screen he HAD to finish the game on Casual to know that. Yes, playing it on Casual makes the game a walk in a park, but you see everything you need to see by playing it like that. Last Level looks identical, it's just much easier. End cutscene is really nothing important and I'm sure wouldn't have swayed anyone's mind about the game. I do think the game is much more enjoyable on Normal difficulty though, as you get much greater sense of accomplishment and satisfaction as opposed to Casual.Lothars said:Your right it seems like the one's defending IGN have really no clue what happened, he didn't play the game fully than get's called out about it, lies than changes some text in his review because he was wrong.
Case said:Jeez, when did IGN become such a complete joke?
I want to know if a game is worth my time, I don't give a damn about the price, since what is worth the price is different for everyone. Reviewers I think try to do both, and tend to fail at both at once.NervousXtian said:Exactly, why would they review the game on the merits of being free to them. Don't we rail against that? I want them to review from the context of my value, not theirs, because their value would be the game being free.