"4 the players" is also non-sense, but its non-sense I'm happy to buy into. At the end of the day, these companies are out to make money, but its the way they go about coaxing my dollars from me that earns a sale. The PS4K actively works against why I bought a Playstation 4. If Microsoft pivot towards a generation-less structure, but are honest about it when they launch the initial generation-less console, that's better for me than a PS4 that deliberately evokes the three previous generations to make a sale, but then kicks that to the curb and changes the game mid-gen, without telling me when I put down my money at the beginning.Just from Phil spewing this nonsense? Haha
Ofcourse not, but it's detrimenting. A console buyer expects to get the best quality of games on the product they purchase expecting to last over half a decade. A new iteration ruins that and creates a negative view with the consumer. A view which many people in here share.
Will make Sony look silly when they use 4K as well and it lets them finally get on the same numbering level.
They can then call them next one Xbox 5.
I wish Sony shared the same sentiment. I don't like this iterative console model taking shape.
If Microsoft doesn't release an incremental Xbox, it'll put the new PS4 in a even worse position.
I'm on the fence about this whole thing.
You are right. It's like Sony and Microsoft reversed directions all of a sudden. Microsoft has become pro-gamer and Sony has become pro-business. Looks like Sony's success went to their head. They already have a system that is doing great why get greedy and not wait a few years before offering a new console. Makes no sense given how well the PS4 is doing. I fear Sony is going to bungle their lead.
Anyway, if this is the case, 3rd parties aren't really going to take extra advantage of the additional horsepower. Games will be designed for the lowest spec. We might just see upgrades in framerate and resolution but why not just get a PC if you are that much of a graphics whore? Since the PS4 has very little exclusives and Microsoft is not going in the same direction, it sort of makes the PS4.5 pretty pointless.
I think the bold is really Microsoft's best chance, and frankly, a smart business move. The issue with the Xbone, apart from the DRM catastrophe, was the price. Inferior hardware for a higher price tag was always going to kill them. A re-designed Xbone Slim for $199 could actually do well, at least in western markets, with the right marketing.If they don't release one then they should focus on bringing the price down to $199 with a slim version to try and capture the budget market. But it's still a losing proposition against a probable slim regular PS4.
Not sure how not doing anything is the more successful strategy though. I think there are enough tech minded people in the console market these days to find the value in spending a little more to get a less obsolete box. The average age of gamers now is like in the mid 30s, as in people with a lot of disposable money. IOW, there's room for success in selling a budget and high end model. Doing nothing just leaves money on the table for these platform holders. The outraged will eventually be able to afford one come 2018 after a price drop or two.
I think MS will release one. The next major jump in power comes at the end of the decade, and that's way too long to be stuck with 1.3TF. The value proposition of releasing an upgraded slim model is the highest the moment the node shrink becomes viable and that's late 2016.
So they will potentially have the weakest console on the market then.
People worried about the PS4 getting the short end of the stick vs. the PS4K wont have much to worry about then.
A re-designed Xbone Slim for $199 could actually do well, at least in western markets, with the right marketing.
Isn't Phil the one who started the whole conversation on upgrading consoles mid-life?
You're ignoring the PS2 Slim, which was designed to do one thing: lower the BoM. The cost of manufacturing the obtuse hardware of the Xbone, which was designed to accommodate a "TV TV TV Sports" focus with a TV pass through that few gamers use, prevents Microsoft from engaging in an all out price war. A Slim Xbone with no HDMI In would allow the console to be manufactured for a lot less, and gives Microsoft a chance to refocus, and target the budget consumer market. Microsoft have a very real and demonstrable motivation for an Xbone Slim hardware revision.Manufacturing defects contributed to slim editions of the 360 and PS3. There is no similar issue here.
The Christmas before last Xbox One was selling for slightly more with multiple games. A $200 edition isn't going to do any better and they don't want to lose money on a console that will be replaced, with a much more powerful model according to Phil, if they want to keep competing in this space.
Nope, you aren't. I know I'm not going to. I already spent $400 + whatever the ungodly amount of games I've purchased costed. Now if I want the best possible PlayStation experience, something Sony sold the PS4 as, I have to spend $500 more just a few years later for that priviledge? And what kind of advantages are PS4K user going to have in competitive multiplayer games? Cleaner graphics, better draw distances and framerates? And then PSVR is just more of the same shit. I can't wait for E3 when people are told they need to buy a new $500 console just get the best experience from a $400 device they already preordered for their PS4.
Screw that. I bought a console, not a pc clearly. Ditching my PS4 while I can still get something for it and investing that money in other platforms.