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In the US, Switch is 1.1M behind PS2 ltd, PS5 +7% vs PS4 Aligned, and Xbox Series "holding close" with Xbox 360 and has passed OG Xbox
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Tiago Rodrigues
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The console market has been doomed since the PS3 gen somehow lmao.
Yet PS5 is Sony's 2nd biggest console so far (at this point in its like cycle), Nintendo is having its 2nd best selling console ever, and Xbox is...there.
Two of these brands are healthy as fuck.
Yet PS5 is Sony's 2nd biggest console so far (at this point in its like cycle), Nintendo is having its 2nd best selling console ever, and Xbox is...there.
Two of these brands are healthy as fuck.
IntentionalPun
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VitoNotVito
Member
Is it? I thought there was no organic life outside of the mighty Amurica.
Syphon Filter
Member
ps5 isnt going to sell more than ps4, even sony said it didnt sell to their expectations. xbox is behind even the xbox one which was a failure. only nintendo is doing well.
jm89
Member
In pretty sure he never gives out sales for any console.
The best we are getting is this consoles is this much behind this other console. Or this consoles is down by this percentage compared to last month/year.
Nintendo is apparently en route to having the highest selling console of all time, not just theirs, just... ever.
EDIT: Don't understand the laugh emoji
S0ULZB0URNE
. You're saying it won't happen then?
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fudgybrownie
Member
Didn't the Xbox one have a better start than the 360 in the U.S.? The 360 got a lot of sales later on with the kinect. He's comparing series x with 360 yet ps5 with ps4. We all know the Series is behind One sales.
Fake
Gold Member
Pretty much this. Software sell hardware, Sony want to push graphic fidelity over games, but this mentality come at the cost of very long development time. We got pretty weak software from first party, most of the PS5 games are coming for third party.
No way they gonna match up with PS4 gaming catalogue from the same period. And I remember reading articles saying gamers are spending more time playing old games than new one. This don't help either.
Look at game companies making PS4/Xbox version of 'next gen' games.
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RedC
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Mighty America is by far the biggest console market, hence why the two Japanese companies (Sony and Nintendo) prioritize it first amongst all others.
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Unknown?
Member
Nintendo will have the same problem with their next console. Games will take longer to develop and they won't have Wii U ports to rely on.
kensama
Member
And ?? what are you trying to say?
Fake
Gold Member
Will depends of whatever Nintendo will try to push.
If Nintendo doesn't want to push any graphic fidelity (RT, Lumen, all those stuff that break perfomance), besides increase texture resolution/native resolution/fps, the next Nintendo Swich will be super fine.
We have games on Nintendo Switch that are already using DRS, the good thing about Dynamic Resolution Scaler are if you put a more stronger machine you will already get a better image quality than the regular machine because the game will ask less agressive settings as soon as the stronger one is in place.
So again, if the main focus of Nintendo are games with better resolution and or better frame rate, they will be more than fine.
US is not even the biggest market? Total sales around the world is what matter if you want really beat PS2 sales.
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EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
I’ve never seen someone make consoles like Sony they do everything baby.
bender
What time is it?
Based on what? Nintendo games never push graphical tech and most of them are small scale lower and mid budget affairs. The only games I can see impacted by the increased specs are Zelda and those already take 5-7 years per game to develop. So what will change?
Sure, no Wii U games left to port, but of Nintendo’s 90+ first party Switch releases, 11 are Wii U ports. That’s barely 10% lol.
jm89
Member
Europe. It ovetook the PS2 in other territories a while ago, and apparently will overtake it in NA this Fall.
kensama
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demigod
Member
BS, didn’t it sold close to 25m alone in NA? No chance it comes that close.
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What are you talking about
demigod
Member
The 360.
Got it.
In that case, the reason is that the 360's sales were fairly moderate for the first four years it was on the market. Sales exploded starting 2010, when Kinect came out. Series X launch aligned is currently behind the part where Kinect launched. It keeping pace with 360 is not at all surprising.
But somehow he's able to provide actual numbers besides sales to help draw a conclusion with for both PlayStation and Switch but can only tell us how Xbox is doing with various forms of adjectives and synonyms. Slightly, moderately, "holding close", etc. means nothing without a number to show such a thing. If he has the percentage he should just post it. I don't feel like he's doing something sneaky if it's coming off that way I just want transparency is all. Being apart of a massive layoff makes you start to question when numbers get replaced by words to show trajectory and health of the company.
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Circana has to respect the wishes of its clients and partners. Ultimately they are a business that won't be able to function and provide the service they provide if they antagonize their partners. It sucks that they have to toe the line for what these companies are saying, but they are not going to stop doing that just to appease some nerds on forums. Microsoft is not the only company they do this for either, they changed their entire reporting method based on Sony's request back in the PS3/PSP days.
It sucks, but a business is a business.
Imtjnotu
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JimboJones
Member
What's a CF25 boost?
jm89
Member
Oh yeah that's been going on for a while. Even dring gets weird and omits Xbox percentages. They get bent out of shape when you question it.
Dring sneakily removed the ps5 and xbox comparison when it comes to game sales aswell. It was right after re4 showed how bad the sale difference was between playstation and Xbox.
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demigod
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Apparently it’s College Football, he’s delusional.
Dorfdad
Gold Member
The fact that they are saying Xbox series is in par or close to passing their best console ever Xbox 360 is kinda crazy. People act like they are dead. The ps5 is doing better than anyone expected so I guess that makes them look worse than it really is.
I hope the nextbox is a major technical leap and offers some real competition to Sony so we keep pushing console technology closer to pc.
I hope the nextbox is a major technical leap and offers some real competition to Sony so we keep pushing console technology closer to pc.
College Football 25
JimboJones
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Killjoy-NL
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Which is a good thing, because it means there will be healthy competition between PS and Nintendo without Xbox, both platforms successfull in their own regard.
The console market will do just fine, it seems.
S0ULZB0URNE
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
It's not in competition with home consoles, it's in competition with the DSNintendo is apparently en route to having the highest selling console of all time, not just theirs, just... ever.
EDIT: Don't understand the laugh emoji
JimboJones
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Right "mobile" just like the DS so you can carry your gaming experience wherever you go.
VitoNotVito
Member
What?Mighty America is by far the biggest console market, hence why the two Japanese companies (Sony and Nintendo) prioritize it first amongst all others.
RedC
Member
Mighty America is by far the biggest CONSOLE marketWhat?
In 2023, the game console market in the United States was significantly larger than in China. The U.S. market was valued at approximately $106 billion1, while China’s console market generated around $2.89 billion2.
The U.S. remains the largest market for game consoles, driven by high demand and a strong presence of major companies like Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo. In contrast, China’s console market is smaller but growing, with increasing interest in gaming and a rising number of gamers
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Gaming isn't just consoles (in fact, consoles are the smallest part of gaming, even in the US)Mighty America is by far the biggest CONSOLE market
In 2023, the game console market in the United States was significantly larger than in China. The U.S. market was valued at approximately $106 billion1, while China’s console market generated around $2.89 billion2.
The U.S. remains the largest market for game consoles, driven by high demand and a strong presence of major companies like Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo. In contrast, China’s console market is smaller but growing, with increasing interest in gaming and a rising number of gamers