Weird, I can see the color difference on my shitty work monitor.
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Weird, I can see the color difference on my shitty work monitor.
WordAssassin
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Is there a way to not let your PS4 download these? I don't have a 4K TV nor do I plan on getting one any time soon so I don't really want or need ~6GB of space on my HDD being wasted.
The Last Wizard
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Fun but lacking content and the powers weren't as fun for me.
I haven't seen something displayed using HDR yet but that nighttime shot in the square is the most convincing sales pitch thus far.
CyberChulo
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Lol. Don't feel bad. I feel bad too cause the new Sony 75 Z9D does 4000 nits! I kinda wish I had waited now. I would love to see on HDR looks on those. I think Sony is demoing their HDR content from the PS meeting and their kiosks on those TV's.
Not ideal but I imagine you can turn off auto update and cancel the update when you start playing it
you can cancel/delete download altho i think it will always ask or autodownload when you play the game.
Robot Pants
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Actually I was looking around and ine site says it's peak white is 28/ cd/m2. Is that the same as nits?
Anyway. I'm curious, how is the banding on your tv? Do you have any?
Noisepurge
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AngelOFDeath
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A. I really need a 4K TV.
B. I wish I didn't platinum the game.
C. Why wasn't there any other DLC besides first light?
B. I wish I didn't platinum the game.
C. Why wasn't there any other DLC besides first light?
CyberChulo
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Lol. I don't understand that type of math either! I got the 1300 nits from several reviewers who had the light meter.
No banding at all. I can pan the camera and everything is uniform. No discoloration or clouding and looking at grayscale images are perfect. That's what made me jump on this. I know all the issues that edge lit tv's have as I've owned at least 4 different ones in the past before I got this one. It's FALD tech and that's the best you can do for LCD at the moment. The 940C and 128 zones for turning off the LEDs. Black is black. Now.... The Z9D? That's got 1000 dimming zones! Think about that!
I'm not sure if these are mandatory updates, the may pop up when you start the game.
Do you still have both of those games installed on your PS4?
PapaJustify
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This post reminded me of what a looker this game is/was. Really have to start it up again one day.
valkillmore
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I just started replaying this game. Fuck it's a beauty.
Mufausa The 3rd
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I wonder if the game will run at 60FPS on PS4Pro.
WordAssassin
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Blergh!
Yeah, I actually haven't played either of them yet but they're ready to go on my PS4. I'm afraid I'll turn it on and find them already downloaded. I'm not like crunched for space on my HDD but it'd still be nice to not have 6GB taken up by files I will likely never use.
Edit: Just turned on my PS4 and nothing's downloaded yet, guess I'll turn off Auto Update. Any games that require updates to play will tell me before I launch them, right? Sigh, I'll echo others wishing this was an optional download in the PSN Store.
Nachtfalke
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I hope Digital Foundry will cover all these games under a PS4 Pro. Curious to see how the improvements are, especially with titles with an unlocked framerate like Infamous.
Lights and Waves
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Annoyed that my 4K TV doesn't support HDR. Wish I knew better when I purchased it.
First Light isn't DLC, it's a separate game.
AbandonedTrolley
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I'm in this position too right now, can't really justify throwing another £800-1000 on one either
I'm testing HDR on an OLED and it's so incredibly dark, this has to be some kind of joke, right?
Check your RGB settings on the PS4 (try in Limited rather than Auto) and check the TVs HDMI black level.
I'm testing HDR on an OLED and it's so incredibly dark, this has to be some kind of joke, right?
You need to probably tweak your settings on either your PS4 or your TV.
Hell yeah, you have an 850c i cant wait, i have one too i was worried a little bit about the effect of HDR. But this is awesome to hear.
Futurevoid
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re settings, I've tried all combinations. These screenshots come straight out of the PS4 framebuffer so my TV settings have no impact. This is how crazy dark even a bright daylight scene is.
Keep trying different combos of RGB on PS4 and HDMI Black level on the TV you are crushing the blacks at the moment.
AngelOFDeath
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As per above, I've run out of combinations to try and what you're seeing in the screenshots is not impacted by those settings. The game itself is crushing blacks.
bananafactory
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I'm testing HDR on an OLED and it's so incredibly dark, this has to be some kind of joke, right?
I ran into the same problem with The Last of Us HDR. Incredibly dim/dark picture and muted colours
About to test Infamous to see if it's the same
Futurevoid
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Maybe a dumb question but does increasing the in-game brightness setting help out of curiosity?
The in-game brightness appears to increase the top end of the tonemapper, so it blooms brighter things more but then tonemaps everything back down in compensation to be too dark.
digitalrelic
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It's not difficult to understand. Games on the PS4 Pro with a 4K TV will run at a higher resolution.
bananafactory
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Yep, getting the exact same results as with TLOU.
Incredibly dull/washed out picture and extremely dim. Same with the XMB menu.
Very disappointing, I feel like it's not working properly.
And yes I've tried virtually every combination of Limited/Full and HDMI level configurations. I spent about 3 hours on this the other night with TLOU.
Incredibly dull/washed out picture and extremely dim. Same with the XMB menu.
Very disappointing, I feel like it's not working properly.
And yes I've tried virtually every combination of Limited/Full and HDMI level configurations. I spent about 3 hours on this the other night with TLOU.
valkillmore
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re settings, I've tried all combinations. These screenshots come straight out of the PS4 framebuffer so my TV settings have no impact. This is how crazy dark even a bright daylight scene is.
They wouldn't intentionally release an update that does this. Keep plucking your settings.
Edit: Welp. Not sure dude.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
What sucks is that many of the better features of 1080p TVs are now gone (local dimming) as they are lowering the prices on 1080p TVs and moving them to 4K.
What make and model TV are you using, the problem may be caused by a low Nit value. For example Samasung KS8000 is 1000nites.
see http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/4k-vs-201604104279.htm
bananafactory
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Samsung UN50JS7000
Karak
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Agreed. This is night and day better as an implementation.
Futurevoid
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What TV?
I had to muck about with settings as I mentioned in the TLOU thread but after doing so, there was nothing muted/dim about TLOU for me. Neither was the PS4 UI. KS8000 here as mentioned.
EDIT: Nevemind, I see you posted it. Is that JS7000 an 8-bit panel?
bananafactory
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It is, but regardless I don't think the quality should be so poor. Netflix 4K content looks great. I've also found several forums with regards to the Xbox One S and Gears 4/Forza 3 where people with 10 bit panels report the exact same problem as me so I don't think it's my display.
Are you connecting via a receiver? If so try and connect directly to TV. There is an issue with black crush on limited RGB settings between PS4 and LG OLED.
ON PS4 - Set RGB to full
ON TV - Use HDR Bright picture mode, set black level to High
Bright lights are incredibly bright, and colours aren't muted for me.
I think HDR games need to let people control more at both the top bottom end of their tonemapers via brightness controls.
I'm aware of the black crush issue and am running on RGB/Full + Black Level High as that's what looks best in this game too, though for this game I also tried the other combinations.
It's nearly 2am here so I'll have to look at removing the receiver from the chain tomorrow. Do you have any links from others where a receive that works otherwise fine with HDR only plays up on PS4 HDR?
I think HDR games need to let people control more at both the top bottom end of their tonemapers via brightness controls.
I'm aware of the black crush issue and am running on RGB/Full + Black Level High as that's what looks best in this game too, though for this game I also tried the other combinations.
It's nearly 2am here so I'll have to look at removing the receiver from the chain tomorrow. Do you have any links from others where a receive that works otherwise fine with HDR only plays up on PS4 HDR?
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