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Studios a little too white for my liking........Jason please.
Studios a little too white for my liking........Jason please.
Personally, I think Spiderman and Ratchet, and the previous Imsomniac games, don't have the same level of quality of Last of Us or God of War. They work fine but they haven't done a masterpiece yet.
Are you new to neogaf? Boy I got news for you!Video games aren't serious. Come the fuck on.
insomniac games are never BAD at least. Never great either
For me they put out 7 to 8 out of 10 games. Never bad - never great.
Yeah great output but their games are not genre defining or even excellent IMO.
They work fine but they haven't done a masterpiece yet.
They are saving the masterpiece for Spider Gwen.
Insomniac are kings of graphics. Gameplay? Eh. It's ok.
Come on guys, the original Spyro trilogy is golden and you know it!
Lately I have been seeing alot of people calling insomniac Sonys "premier studio" in combination with their output and their quality...but I think this is being a bit short sighted considering the quality and proven studios Sony has under their belts.
I would say that the premier studios who could be considered their top dog are:
Naughty Dog
Insomniac
Santa Monica
Sucker Punch
You could throw guerrilla in there but I would argue that is a bit short sighted too. Now the talk on Insomniac being the premier studio started with Spiderman and since they made Spiderman Miles Morales and Ratchet and clank rift apart...these three games have an average meta critic of 86.6. Now the studio who I would still consider the best of the SIE first party Naughty Dogs last 3 games have a metacritic of 90 even with lost legacy bringing them down with an 84 average...but it seems that since Naughty dog doesnt have the output of insomniac I would argue due to the fact that naughty dogs polish is still a tier above the rest of the industry it feels people are wrongly putting them over naughty dog even tho their projects are still a step below Naughty Dogs.
While they have been killing it with output and really well recieved games, it does feel like their tremendous climb to the top (no pun intended) has a large part to do with the massive IP they are in charge of as I would argue they haven't produced a game that is even the level of Ghost of Tsushima and still feel that putting them at the top of the SIE pyramid is a bit too soon. I would probably put them third behind:
1. Naughty Dog
2. Santa Monica
3. Insomniac
But with GOT being better than probably any Insomniac game imo they could climb to 3 if their next game is of the same quality.
TLDR: Why people looking past my boy naughty dog
Before? That didn't changed at all. They only changed style to more "serious" and "cinematic"Before the series was rebooted, God of War was a really simplistic action game that fell into the trap that most of Sony's AAA games fall into, style over substance
I didn't played last one, but all previous ones basically play like first ones on PS2. That's most stagnant series in whole industry (even EA sports games changed more since PS2 years), not that it's bad series, but if you played few of them then you played all of them.R&C was a real disappointment. Basically felt exactly like the PS3 games but with great graphics
Arguing that Insomniac is not a premier SIE studio while putting Sucker Punch there is really brave thing to do.Lately I have been seeing alot of people calling insomniac Sonys "premier studio" in combination with their output and their quality...but I think this is being a bit short sighted considering the quality and proven studios Sony has under their belts.
I would say that the premier studios who could be considered their top dog are:
Naughty Dog
Insomniac
Santa Monica
Sucker Punch
You could throw guerrilla in there but I would argue that is a bit short sighted too. Now the talk on Insomniac being the premier studio started with Spiderman and since they made Spiderman Miles Morales and Ratchet and clank rift apart...these three games have an average meta critic of 86.6. Now the studio who I would still consider the best of the SIE first party Naughty Dogs last 3 games have a metacritic of 90 even with lost legacy bringing them down with an 84 average...but it seems that since Naughty dog doesnt have the output of insomniac I would argue due to the fact that naughty dogs polish is still a tier above the rest of the industry it feels people are wrongly putting them over naughty dog even tho their projects are still a step below Naughty Dogs.
While they have been killing it with output and really well recieved games, it does feel like their tremendous climb to the top (no pun intended) has a large part to do with the massive IP they are in charge of as I would argue they haven't produced a game that is even the level of Ghost of Tsushima and still feel that putting them at the top of the SIE pyramid is a bit too soon. I would probably put them third behind:
1. Naughty Dog
2. Santa Monica
3. Insomniac
But with GOT being better than probably any Insomniac game imo they could climb to 3 if their next game is of the same quality.
TLDR: Why people looking past my boy naughty dog
It's simple, by the time ND release one game Insomniac can release two. If Insomniac took the same time as ND I'm sure their games would be better and more polished.Lately I have been seeing alot of people calling insomniac Sonys "premier studio" in combination with their output and their quality...but I think this is being a bit short sighted considering the quality and proven studios Sony has under their belts.
I would say that the premier studios who could be considered their top dog are:
Naughty Dog
Insomniac
Santa Monica
Sucker Punch
You could throw guerrilla in there but I would argue that is a bit short sighted too. Now the talk on Insomniac being the premier studio started with Spiderman and since they made Spiderman Miles Morales and Ratchet and clank rift apart...these three games have an average meta critic of 86.6. Now the studio who I would still consider the best of the SIE first party Naughty Dogs last 3 games have a metacritic of 90 even with lost legacy bringing them down with an 84 average...but it seems that since Naughty dog doesnt have the output of insomniac I would argue due to the fact that naughty dogs polish is still a tier above the rest of the industry it feels people are wrongly putting them over naughty dog even tho their projects are still a step below Naughty Dogs.
While they have been killing it with output and really well recieved games, it does feel like their tremendous climb to the top (no pun intended) has a large part to do with the massive IP they are in charge of as I would argue they haven't produced a game that is even the level of Ghost of Tsushima and still feel that putting them at the top of the SIE pyramid is a bit too soon. I would probably put them third behind:
1. Naughty Dog
2. Santa Monica
3. Insomniac
But with GOT being better than probably any Insomniac game imo they could climb to 3 if their next game is of the same quality.
TLDR: Why people looking past my boy naughty dog
Very trueinsomniac games are never BAD at least. Never great either
Is retarder a word? I think I just learnt a wordi swear to god i hear a new english word everyday and each of them is more retarder than the last one, what the fuck is wrong with you people?
Video games aren't serious. Come the fuck on.
ExactlyJesus Christ man get off Metacritic and form your own opinion based on your own experiences about the qualities of the games you play.
I hate to break it to you but Metacritic is not a metric to measure how good or not a studio is.
LOU2Lately I have been seeing alot of people calling insomniac Sonys "premier studio" in combination with their output and their quality...but I think this is being a bit short sighted considering the quality and proven studios Sony has under their belts.
I would say that the premier studios who could be considered their top dog are:
Naughty Dog
Insomniac
Santa Monica
Sucker Punch
You could throw guerrilla in there but I would argue that is a bit short sighted too. Now the talk on Insomniac being the premier studio started with Spiderman and since they made Spiderman Miles Morales and Ratchet and clank rift apart...these three games have an average meta critic of 86.6. Now the studio who I would still consider the best of the SIE first party Naughty Dogs last 3 games have a metacritic of 90 even with lost legacy bringing them down with an 84 average...but it seems that since Naughty dog doesnt have the output of insomniac I would argue due to the fact that naughty dogs polish is still a tier above the rest of the industry it feels people are wrongly putting them over naughty dog even tho their projects are still a step below Naughty Dogs.
While they have been killing it with output and really well recieved games, it does feel like their tremendous climb to the top (no pun intended) has a large part to do with the massive IP they are in charge of as I would argue they haven't produced a game that is even the level of Ghost of Tsushima and still feel that putting them at the top of the SIE pyramid is a bit too soon. I would probably put them third behind:
1. Naughty Dog
2. Santa Monica
3. Insomniac
But with GOT being better than probably any Insomniac game imo they could climb to 3 if their next game is of the same quality.
TLDR: Why people looking past my boy naughty dog
I'm pretty sure even shareholders don't give a rat's ass about metacritic. What they care about are numbers and on that front Insomniac has delivered more than any other Sony studio.Exactly
we don’t all have to come to an agreement on who’s #1 and who is “the winner”. We can have different tastes and opinions on what we personally consider to be good or the best, even if other people disagree with that. If I were a shareholder or making some kind of commission off the success of these games, then I could understand some spirit of competition, but we’re just consumers lol. Sales numbers and aggregate scores shouldn’t matter to a consumer, only if they actually enjoy the product or not, regardless of what anyone else thinks.
It’s pointless to type this out, of course, because gamers are basically large children who are never going to change so…
People getting hyped at all the games they're putting out and all I can think of is the crunch they're going through.
You have an account in a gaming forum and you are posting in a thread with the topic being discussed. So you do.Who fucking cares, it's video games.
well, i lived enough in english speaking sites i'll dab myself at making new words too which usually only gets used by myself.Is retarder a word? I think I just learnt a word
Sure, if you're only focusing on combat depth and nothing else. GOW was way better in other areas like level design, bosses, story telling. The sum of all its parts was higher than the sum of those two games.Hard disagree. Ninja Gaiden Black and Devil May Cry 3 hold the crown.
Naughty Dog has come a long way since the original Uncharted which had a substandard Gears of War cover based system (How Nathan held the riffles in the game never seemed to match were the cursor was pointing). Uncharted 4 is pretty neat with the grappling hook mechanic (grappling hooks make everything better). TLOU was solid but felt a bit dated at the time. I did really enjoy how brutal all the weapons felt. TLOU2 ratcheted that brutality up a notch or two. Going prone was neat I guess? I think Naughty Dog is the biggest example of what I mean by "polished, but not very original". Maybe that's a bit reductive on my part, but I wish Sony's studios would take more risks and bring more originality to the table. I do give a lot of credit to SSM for the God of War reboot.
Spider-Man is by far the biggest name and even the 49 metacritic The Amazing Spider-Man 2 from 2014 topped some of the sales charts and sold well if i remember correctly.It's not just that Insomniac is handling Marvel IPs. There're other Marvel games on the market and those developers do not get the same recognition Insomniac does. If anything, the pressure is higher when you're working with a massive IP because the audience has predisposed expectations. You screw up an IP that people really care about and you're going to get dunked out for it (see Avengers).
How do you even fail with the Spiderman license?
Selling a lot of copies when you've got the Spiderman license is like the least impressive thing imaginable to me.