DayShallCome
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Hardware is doing solidly, but dear god, the software sales absolutely blow.
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Is anyone really surpised at how well the PSP is actually doing?
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artredis1980
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Rocksteady33 said:
Mustaphadamus
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what RPGs would you suggest for the PSP? Legend of Heros wasn't bad.wazoo said:
UntoldDreams
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Hatred clouds judgement. That's true on GAF.
If the PSP sales were so "bad" why do companies like EA continue to push out games?
Obviously they are making money. You'd have to be insane to continue making games if it LOST money, right?
So thumbs up to the PSP. Second place in this case isn't the same as "bad place".
If the PSP sales were so "bad" why do companies like EA continue to push out games?
Obviously they are making money. You'd have to be insane to continue making games if it LOST money, right?
So thumbs up to the PSP. Second place in this case isn't the same as "bad place".
The Abominable Snowman
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From the other thread, Sony officially has shipped games at a 3.99 tie ratio but it's believed to be about 3.2-something by our own estimates.radjago said:
IMO, Third party games sell very decently, but not one of them have the system-selling appeal of what Nintendo has, and Sony has shifted all game focus from the PSP to the PS3, dedicating a few studios to the PSP and moving on.
After the great burst the redesign will have, I expect a steady tapering of sales because Sony is ignoring it in their quest to fix the PS3s problems.
I expected the PSP to at least compete with the DS, and for a time it did (For a time the PSP was outselling DS by quite a margin her ein the UK), then Nintendogs happened, then the Lite, and now the PSP is all but consigned to defeat here, it still sells ok, but compared to the DS, it's as nothing.
What's more concerning is the lack of software sales, the Tie Ratio for the DS is immense, especially in Japan (just look in the MC threads, scary stuff), the PSP is nowhere to be seen (Bar a few bigger titles), the PSP isn't a failiure, but it cannot be considered a proper success until Sony start selling more software units.
(Btw, as my post history shows, I be leaning on the Nintendo side of the fence, I just seen the PSP doing really well, didn't happen as expected, though).
What's more concerning is the lack of software sales, the Tie Ratio for the DS is immense, especially in Japan (just look in the MC threads, scary stuff), the PSP is nowhere to be seen (Bar a few bigger titles), the PSP isn't a failiure, but it cannot be considered a proper success until Sony start selling more software units.
(Btw, as my post history shows, I be leaning on the Nintendo side of the fence, I just seen the PSP doing really well, didn't happen as expected, though).
I don't know the LTD tie ratio, but I do know this: In last month's NPD report the PSP hardware outsold the top five PSP software titles combined, by a large margin. This means that a sizeable portion of the people who bought PSPs in NPD's June reporting period bought no new games with it, and that the userbase overall had a software purchase ratio of less than 5% for June (for those top five titles).radjago said:
The Abominable Snowman
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Speak of the devil, Sony has filed a patent for hooking the new redesigned PSPs to their SixAxis (ShockAxis) controllers
http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph...&s1=20070174531&OS=20070174531&RS=20070174531
http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph...&s1=20070174531&OS=20070174531&RS=20070174531
meltpotato
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i am pretty ****ing suprised considering that i own one and, beyond MSG
O, i've barely played the damn thing.
O, i've barely played the damn thing.DayShallCome
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The Sphinx said:
Yeah. The PSP software situation is not good at all, as indicated by the leaked NPD numbers for June, as well as the situation in Japan (though Monster Hunter is undoubtedly successful).
Zombie James
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It's never going to catch up with the DS, but 25+ million units sold (at least according to Wikipedia) in 2.5 years isn't bad at all.
DeaconKnowledge
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The Abominable Snowman said:Speak of the devil, Sony has filed a patent for hooking the new redesigned PSPs to their SixAxis (ShockAxis) controllers
http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph...&s1=20070174531&OS=20070174531&RS=20070174531
What the ****?
The Abominable Snowman said:Speak of the devil, Sony has filed a patent for hooking the new redesigned PSPs to their SixAxis (ShockAxis) controllers
http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph...&s1=20070174531&OS=20070174531&RS=20070174531
Pac Man Versus PS3 confirmed!! :lol :lol
The Sphinx said:
The thread on Sony's Q1 earnings indicate they sold 9.9 million units of software from April 2007 - June 2007. Compared with 2.14 million pieces of hardware this seems to indicate that games are selling. Why this isn't reflected in the NPD numbers, I don't know.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174477
I think seeing the PS3 sell so few units makes one (and perhaps even Sony) appreciate PSP sales. The price drop's helped in the west, and in Japan sales are up year over year. It's a bit surprising since system sales usually go down a bit over the years, but it's still quite good for Sony.
The Abominable Snowman
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"AND I FORM THE HEAD!"
The Abominable Snowman said:Speak of the devil, Sony has filed a patent for hooking the new redesigned PSPs to their SixAxis (ShockAxis) controllers
http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph...&s1=20070174531&OS=20070174531&RS=20070174531
WAIT FOR IT...
WAIT FOR IT...........
Filed: September 22, 2005
Sorry nothing to do with shock axis unless sony planned to redesign the controller 2 friggin years ago. And knew that they were going to be free of the immersion lawsuit.
EDIT:
On March 1, 2007, Sony Computer Entertainment and Immersion Corporation announced that both companies have agreed to end their patent litigation, and have entered a business agreement to "explore the inclusion of Immersion technology in PlayStation
format products.
EDIT 2:
Upon further review that is a normal ps2 controller with the analog button and everything. They were just covering their bases at the time so no one else does this.
Sony must also have a time machine .
Pureauthor
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Link316 said:
Given the numbers, it just means that all PSP games are floundering, which is worse than most of the games floundering and a few doing well.
Anyway, yeah, hardware = solid if not spectacular, software = LOL WHUT and all that jazz...
Jammy said:
Quite frankly, for almost a year, the PSP deserved to beat down the DS. By Christmas 2005, though, the DS had a killer library. And the DS Lite sealed the deal....
But I almost cried when my brother bought a DS, Super Mario 64 DS and Yoshi Touch'n'Go. It was pathetic.
I'm not surprised. I have 22 games on the PSP, its great. I use it even more than my iPod. Directly-downloading podcasts is a killer-app for me.
Too bad about the redesign though... built-in storage would've been aces. Oh well, if they can get a 16GB card out at a reasonable price, its just as good.
Too bad about the redesign though... built-in storage would've been aces. Oh well, if they can get a 16GB card out at a reasonable price, its just as good.
Manmademan
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theBishop said:
with flash memory prices in freefall the way they are, the lack of internal memory doesn't really bother me. you can find 4 gig sticks now for around $50! 8 and 16 (when released) will be down to reasonable prices within a year or two.
donny2112 said:
"The idea of a handheld rivalry with Nintendo is an irrelevance, those formats don't appear in our planning. It's not a fair comparison; not fair on them, I should stress. That sounds arrogant, maybe, but it's the truth."
"With the DS, it's fair to say that Nintendo stepped out of the technical race and went for a feature differentiation with the touch screen, but I fear that it won't have a lasting impact beyond that of a gimmick - so the long-lasting appeal of the platform is at peril as a direct result of that."
"Nintendo knows its target audience, because it has really narrowed that down; and it's pretty much defined by a boy or girl's ability to admire Pokemon."
-Phil Harrison
Pretty much.
Nuclear Muffin
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Weisheit said:
Yeah it's technically a failure since Sony's real goal with the PSP was to finish off the job and completely decimate Nintendo and kick them out of the video game industry all together (I doubt they seriously thought that they could beat the i-pod, if they did they would've had some built in storage) but it is by far the most successful competitor to Nintendo the industry has ever seen so in that respect it is a success (25 million in 2.75 years is nothing to sneeze at)
CreatureX3
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Judging by PSP software sales, there seems to be a lot of people still thinking that!Rocksteady33 said:
I wouldn't note my current reaction to the present status of the PSP as being *surprising*, but more so ironically exciting. Initially it was obvious that the vast majority would assume that the PSP would decimate the DS. The PlayStation Portable was not only a sexy beast, but a technical masterpiece as well. And when it launched, it actually did obliterate the DS, with not only its superior hardware, but its more than impressive software lineup (yes, PSP has had great games since day one). So no one in early 2005 would of expected that Nintendo would be able to regain its gaming throne, by strategically grasping an untapped market with digital pets and touch test (this was the actual surprise of a generation).
Even with the PlayStation brand being at its peak in market domination, Sony's stubborn attitude became blinding, allowing Nintendo to re-capture the handheld gaming flag and run with it. Sony gave Nintendo not only enough time to revolutionize how handheld games are played, but also conquer the entire gaming industry in a few short years (again, the surprise of a generation). When the PSP finally regained conciseness, the DS had already made it look obsolete (especially after the release of the Lite). In the first half of 2006, it seemed no firmware update (Web Browser, Location Free, Flash, etc..), nor game (Daxter, Syphon Filter, Socom, GTA, Tekken, Field Commander, LocoRoco, etc..) could alter the invetiable PSP-RIP.
To be honest, as much as I adored this sleek portable, I thought the release of the PS3 + Wii combo would finally put that so called "final nail" in the PSP coffin. Although somehow the PSP still prevailed, surviving in this more than suffocated gaming generation. Not only has the PSP became the prime PlayStation platform (standing beyond the PS2 and PS3.. as of now), but it also seems to be slowly but surely proving it's worth. The remaining 2007 lineup for the PSP seems to be one of the best ever (Silent Hill 0rigins, God Of War, FF7: Crisis Core, Wild Arms XF, WipeOut Pulse, LocoRoco 2, Syphon Filter 2, Castlevania, etc) , and with the release of the PSP-Slim, the global appeal of this marvelous platform should be further expanded.
Regardless, the PSP has put us all on a unexpectedly exciting ride (from top to bottom, and now somewhere in the middle). If anything the PSP has surprised the gaming industry in general. Further pushing expectations, and altering the approach taking by respectable competitors. The PSP has helped further expand a era of gaming that was becoming slowly cliché, and has stapled itself as an everlasting platform for future generations. Even more so, the progressing journey of the PSP and DS will be interesting to say the least.
Even with the PlayStation brand being at its peak in market domination, Sony's stubborn attitude became blinding, allowing Nintendo to re-capture the handheld gaming flag and run with it. Sony gave Nintendo not only enough time to revolutionize how handheld games are played, but also conquer the entire gaming industry in a few short years (again, the surprise of a generation). When the PSP finally regained conciseness, the DS had already made it look obsolete (especially after the release of the Lite). In the first half of 2006, it seemed no firmware update (Web Browser, Location Free, Flash, etc..), nor game (Daxter, Syphon Filter, Socom, GTA, Tekken, Field Commander, LocoRoco, etc..) could alter the invetiable PSP-RIP.
To be honest, as much as I adored this sleek portable, I thought the release of the PS3 + Wii combo would finally put that so called "final nail" in the PSP coffin. Although somehow the PSP still prevailed, surviving in this more than suffocated gaming generation. Not only has the PSP became the prime PlayStation platform (standing beyond the PS2 and PS3.. as of now), but it also seems to be slowly but surely proving it's worth. The remaining 2007 lineup for the PSP seems to be one of the best ever (Silent Hill 0rigins, God Of War, FF7: Crisis Core, Wild Arms XF, WipeOut Pulse, LocoRoco 2, Syphon Filter 2, Castlevania, etc) , and with the release of the PSP-Slim, the global appeal of this marvelous platform should be further expanded.
Regardless, the PSP has put us all on a unexpectedly exciting ride (from top to bottom, and now somewhere in the middle). If anything the PSP has surprised the gaming industry in general. Further pushing expectations, and altering the approach taking by respectable competitors. The PSP has helped further expand a era of gaming that was becoming slowly cliché, and has stapled itself as an everlasting platform for future generations. Even more so, the progressing journey of the PSP and DS will be interesting to say the least.
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