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It’s been one year since Sony last announced any first party games going to PC

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Not talking third party studio exclusives, but straight Sony first party in-house games.

The Last of Us 2 being the most recent, announced at The Game Awards 2024.

What could they have announced from PS5?
-Astros Playroom
-Demons Souls
-GT7
-Astrobot
-Ghost of Yotei

Has Sony changed tactics?
We do know they removed it as a strategy from their financials back in September.

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bitbydeath said:
Not talking third party studio exclusives, but straight Sony first party in-house games.

The Last of Us 2 being the most recent, announced at The Game Awards 2024.
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They haven't exactly announced much new in general anyway.

DS2 and 4 Loop are Sony published IP's, not sure why you wouldn't want to count those. Let alone a new Horizon Zero Dawn based MMO that's only going to be on PC and Mobile.
 
adamsapple said:
They haven't exactly announced much new in general anyway.

DS2 and 4 Loop are Sony published IP's, not sure why you wouldn't want to count those. Let alone a new Horizon Zero Dawn based MMO that's only going to be on PC and Mobile.
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You quoted it, but just to repeat.

Not talking third party studio exclusives, but straight Sony first party in-house games.
 
Sony is learn there lesson. Big challenge is Japan which Ps5 continues to lose especially they dont have Japan centric exclusives.
 
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They've finally realized the obvious: porting their games to PC will cannibalize console sales. Once those announcements started, my PS5 lost all value—I sold it, having bought it solely for their exclusives.
 
they are just getting ready to roll out crossbuy and their PC launcher, Yotei and DS2 would be the best thing to launch along with a long with GT7 and Demon Souls.
 
kazuyamishima said:
They never had any IPs that were big in Japan, the best selling games on PS2 and PSP over there are all third party games.
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In the past especially ps1 and ps2 era. Example siren, ico, last guardian, ape escape, alundra, dark cloud, wild arms, legens of legaia, parapa the rapper. Revive those IP and there is a big chance for sony PS to be competitive in Japan.
 
yogaflame said:
In the past especially ps1 and ps2 era. Example siren, ico, last guardian, ape escape, alundra, dark cloud, wild arms, legens of legaia, parapa the rapper. Revive those IP and there is a big chance for sony PS to be competitive in Japan.
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You keep parroting this, but those ips never sell $hit, especially in Japan, that's why Sony hasn't revived them.

Trends have changed a lot, they moved on, the PS4 market share for both hardware and software in Japan is less than 10%, it'll be the same for the PS5.
 
yogaflame said:
In the past especially ps1 and ps2 era. Example siren, ico, last guardian, ape escape, alundra, dark cloud, wild arms, legens of legaia, parapa the rapper. Revive those IP and there is a big chance for sony PS to be competitive in Japan.
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None of those IP's was commercially viable, otherwise Sony wouldn't let them remain dormant this long.

Who the fuck even knows what Legend of Legiaia is right now?
 
Should have stuck to a strategy of releasing their older games only to be honest. Should have only focussed on the PS4 gen: Uncharted Nate Drake Collection, Shadow of the Colossus remake, The Last of Us Remastered (the GOAT version, with online MP), Dreams, The Last Guardian, Ratchet and Clank 2016 etc.
 
kazuyamishima said:
You keep parroting this, but those ips never sell $hit, especially in Japan, that's why Sony hasn't revived them.

Trends have changed a lot, they moved on, the PS4 market share for both hardware and software in Japan is less than 10%, it'll be the same for the PS5.
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Have you own a Ps1? Or bought a PSM or gamepro or egm magazine? Those games have decent sales and profit. And it makes the Ps consoles enticing that time. During those periods and era those sales number are considered decent. The bottom line is western games is not attractive for Japan market. Even goy was not big hit in Japan
 
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It's for the best for retaining most value and sell consoles. Following Xbox into the shit waters is a mistake.
 
adamsapple said:
None of those IP's was commercially viable, otherwise Sony wouldn't let them remain dormant this long.

Who the fuck even knows what Legend of Legiaia is right now?
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Allot of Japanese gamers knows that. The aging gaming population of Japan knows that game. They just dont like what ps5 is showing them right now and ps5 reeks western california woke crap for them.
 
Their approach maybe changes with steam machine coming out and what if a new Xbox also plays steam games.
 
yogaflame said:
Allot of Japanese gamers knows that. The aging gaming population of Japan knows that game. They just dont like what ps5 is showing them right now and ps5 reeks western california woke crap for them.
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How do you know that's the reason Japanese folks don't like PS5? Why do you assume there it and not the obvious rise of portables in Japan over the last decade over home consoles ..

I can make a safe bet that a new Legaia isn't going to turn that around.
 
Gitaroo said:
I think the dram price hike will also catch up with consoles soon enough.
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But still more expensive than a ps5 console. Its still goes back to ps5 console is the best value for your money right now. Pc upgrade is to expensice this gen compared to the 3dfx voodo era which I grown up too.
 
adamsapple said:
How do you know that's the reason Japanese folks don't like PS5? Why do you assume there it and not the obvious rise of portables in Japan over the last decade over home consoles ..

I can make a safe bet that a new Legaia isn't going to turn that around.
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Portable popularity is also a factor but most ps5 games in Japan right now are pretty bad for Japans taste thats the number one reason. Even if they release the pspnext gen right now but same game line up, it will still sell very bad. If those OG IP games I mentioned are revive i bet it would sell pretty well especially if it has the PS exclusive label and well advertise But it hasnt happen yet so I cannot take that challenge.
 
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Cakeboxer said:
The only "big" thing that's missing is GT7. Yotei will certainly come, and the rest might just be too small.
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Gt series is the poster child of ps since ps1. Its a bad sign if that game is ported too pc which means ps is dying just like what happened to xbox porting its tent pole games halo, gears, and forza to ps5. But ps is still strong and gt series helps entice gamers to buy ps. Its a bad decision if they do that. Its killing there own platform and console. Same goes with astrobot right now. This two are PS showcase.
 
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yogaflame said:
Gt series is the poster child of ps since ps1. Its a bad sign if that game is ported too pc which means ps is dying just like what happened to xbox porting its tent pole games halo, gears, and forza to ps5. But ps is still strong and gt series helps entice gamers to buy ps. Its a bad decision if they do that. Its killing there own platform and console. Same goes with astrobot right now. This two are PS showcase.
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Don't get me wrong, but even though GT is popular, it's still a niche genre. That's why racing games are never nominated in the main category at the Game Awards. The big blockbusters like Spider-Man, GoW, TLoU, or Horizon are all already on PC. I don't see this as the downfall of the PlayStation brand, but rather an expansion. For most players, PC and consoles are like apples and oranges, so not enough people will ever switch to PC to threaten console hardware sales. Xbox made other mistakes besides releasing on PC, and the Xbox brand has never been as strong or had as many fans as Sony or Nintendo, because those companies have been on the market much longer.
 
The idea of releasing exclusives on PC was from the Jim Ryan-Herman Hulst era. Since the start 2025, Japan has taken back control of Playstation. Second and Third party like Death Stranding and Stellar Blade will still release on PC.
Sony makes less than 1% of their total revenue on PC, so from their point of view its not worth risking their brand.
 
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Hard to port games to PC when they havnt really been releasing any with the exception of ghost. And that would be unlike them to announce a few months after release. I'd expect it sometime in 2026
 
Cakeboxer said:
Don't get me wrong, but even though GT is popular, it's still a niche genre. That's why racing games are never nominated in the main category at the Game Awards. The big blockbusters like Spider-Man, GoW, TLoU, or Horizon are all already on PC. I don't see this as the downfall of the PlayStation brand, but rather an expansion. For most players, PC and consoles are like apples and oranges, so not enough people will ever switch to PC to threaten console hardware sales. Xbox made other mistakes besides releasing on PC, and the Xbox brand has never been as strong or had as many fans as Sony or Nintendo, because those companies have been on the market much longer.
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List of best-selling PlayStation video games - Wikipedia

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1. Gran Turismo - 10.85 Million
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List of best-selling PlayStation 2 video games - Wikipedia

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2. Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec - 14.89 million
4. Gran Turismo 4 - 11.75 million
Gran Turismo in PS2 was toe-to-toe with the GTA games
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List of best-selling PlayStation Portable video games - Wikipedia

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3. Gran Turismo - 4.67 million
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List of best-selling PlayStation 3 video games - Wikipedia

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8. Gran Turismo 5 Prologue - 5.35 million
9. Gran Turismo 6 - 5.22 million
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List of best-selling PlayStation 4 video games - Wikipedia

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10. Gran Turismo Sport - 12.72 million

Gran Turismo consistently is at top 10 best selling games on every Playstation console.
Gran Turismo 7 so far has been estimated to have sold 14 million copies and is on track to be the best selling Gran Turismo of all time.
 
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Does it not make sense for Sony to adjust strategy? If they just port all their PS titles to PC, then it won't be long at all until PS meets the same fate as the Xbox. But if they develop games that are specifically for PlayStation, while simultaneously developing other games that target PC, they can build a more sustainable, long-term ecosystem without having to be committed only to one subset of gamers. It's not an easy strategy as it requires more investment, but Sony has the studios to do this effectively if they so choose.
 
Sony's PC porting studio Nixxes is assisting Housemarque with getting Saros out. They'll likely return to porting new titles afterwards, such as Yotei.

I don't expect them to revisit older back catalog PS games for PC, unless those titles receive PS5 remasters/remakes similar to Horizon Zero Dawn and Days Gone.

Their main focus now is to release as many PS5 games as possible, using all their talent, including the team at Nixxes, to make that happen.
 
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bitbydeath said:
-Astros Playroom
-Demons Souls
-GT7
-Astrobot
-Ghost of Yotei
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Hard to judge from this list imo. Yotei is probably the only somewhat useful indicator on this list but it's too recent atm.

As pressure increases on their console (hardware) margin -as seems inevitable going forward, until the hardware manufacturing situation resolves itself- selling directly to PC gamers makes more sense not less.

Selling a PC gamer a PS5 at a loss is not much of a win if they're only interested in exclusives and the only difference is you now get 100% on those exclusives instead of 70%. They are also only gaining the 30% from PC gamers who would buy a PS5 for exclusives, while forfeiting the 70% from those who would not.

I think the obvious option on paper is to release their shit day and date on PC exclusively in their own store, and then more widely after 18 months or whatever. But maybe there are piracy concerns with this which make it undesirable idk.
 
Cakeboxer said:
Don't get me wrong, but even though GT is popular, it's still a niche genre. That's why racing games are never nominated in the main category at the Game Awards. The big blockbusters like Spider-Man, GoW, TLoU, or Horizon are all already on PC. I don't see this as the downfall of the PlayStation brand, but rather an expansion. For most players, PC and consoles are like apples and oranges, so not enough people will ever switch to PC to threaten console hardware sales. Xbox made other mistakes besides releasing on PC, and the Xbox brand has never been as strong or had as many fans as Sony or Nintendo, because those companies have been on the market much longer.
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Racing games are a niche genre?

Thats a new one.
 
clarky said:
Racing games are a niche genre?

Thats a new one.
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I'm not saying the series doesn't sell very well. It's just that, compared to action-adventures, it's not such a popular genre. There are many people who, aside from maybe Mario Kart, categorically reject sports and racing games. That's why, as I said, they also have their own category in the GA. Sony seems to have focused more on genres that potentially appeal to the largest audience.
 
If you ignore Nixxes looking to hire people to port stuff to PC few months ago, or Sony's boss saying they are shifting from being a Hardware focused company, into a business that expands community and engagement then yes

In under a year Yotei will be announced for PC, id say this is a safe bet, astro bot will skip, it's just a waste of time since sales potential is 0
 
bitbydeath said:
Not talking third party studio exclusives, but straight Sony first party in-house games.

The Last of Us 2 being the most recent, announced at The Game Awards 2024.

What could they have announced from PS5?
-Astros Playroom
-Demons Souls
-GT7
-Astrobot
-Ghost of Yotei
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Some didn't launched a usual staple big budget SP games for so long.
Astro probably will be PS along with GT as evergreen titles and Sony has no interest in porting old.
So probably Yotei in an year

Gitaroo said:
I think the dram price hike will also catch up with consoles soon enough.
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This mem rush might end before that altogether (see Oracle woes). Investors aren't really that happy skyrocketing costs for zero profits
And Sony buys in bulk so it uch less affected
 
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Cakeboxer said:
I'm not saying the series doesn't sell very well. It's just that, compared to action-adventures, it's not such a popular genre. There are many people who, aside from maybe Mario Kart, categorically reject sports and racing games. That's why, as I said, they also have their own category in the GA. Sony seems to have focused more on genres that potentially appeal to the largest audience.
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Make no sense. Action games and multiplayer games also have their own category at the game awards.

There are many people who actively reject turn based RPG's as well.

Racing games are very popular and not niche in anyway. See Forza, GT, Mario Kart, Wipeout, NFS etc etc. The genre is as old as Videogames.
 
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I mean an intern could see their PC strategy is a disaster. It doesn' work. They are selling less of their first party games on 2 platforms now (and are making way less money) than they were selling on one platform until 2020.

Their third party "strategy" is working pretty well but that has nothing to do with anything those blood suckers are doing since 2020. Their hardware (designed by a litteral genius) is just pretty good, cheap and powerful and obviously Xbox failed.
 
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Cakeboxer said:
Don't get me wrong, but even though GT is popular, it's still a niche genre. That's why racing games are never nominated in the main category at the Game Awards. The big blockbusters like Spider-Man, GoW, TLoU, or Horizon are all already on PC. I don't see this as the downfall of the PlayStation brand, but rather an expansion. For most players, PC and consoles are like apples and oranges, so not enough people will ever switch to PC to threaten console hardware sales. Xbox made other mistakes besides releasing on PC, and the Xbox brand has never been as strong or had as many fans as Sony or Nintendo, because those companies have been on the market much longer.
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Niche? Lmao
GT7 might be PS best selling game since tlou2 (besides helldivers 2).
It's probably the best selling GT at this point.
 
Well it's probably a combo of three things:

1) Not much to announce anyway

2) Reception for their most recent PC releases has been measurably muted

3) The platform growth that they thought they were going to see by targeting PC-centric markets (e.g., China, Eastern EU) hasn't shown up bigly

Hermen Hulst is still running the studio business at PlayStation, so rest assured there are many more software miscalculations that will happen.
 
They need to release some games to be able to port them first. Aside from DS and GT what else is there?

Yotei just came out, so that's quite far away. Can't see them releasing Astrobot.
 
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