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It may be possible Microsoft can save Windows Phone with Windows 10 X and Surface Duo.

Before we start yes, I know that Windows 10 mobile isn't "Windows Phone" and Windows Phone died with 8 and that before Windows Phone 7 it was Windows Mobile and Windows 10 mobile is part of that series of products but not the Windows Phone, but everyone calls it windows phone anyway and Microsoft was completely inconsistent on this issue and made a lot of other dumb mistakes with Windows Phone. Word salad, Word salad. Moving on.

Microsoft has revealed their new upcoming smartphone over a year early (why?) the Surface Duo. Finally, the Surface phone we have all been waiting for, with a design completely abandoning the now dead trend of folding phones with one single plastic screen, smart.

Windows 10 X (ten ten?) is a new operating system that simplifies Windows 10 for tablet devices. However, with phones often being 5 to 6 inches or longer these days, that can easily work for a phone, especially a phone that folds into a tablet.

Microsoft announced the device would launch with Android for now, but it may be a better idea to make Android an optional OS and make Windows 10 X the primarily OS. Here is why after throughout research.

For one, Windows 10 has many apps from the biggest companies out there, apps people actually use. Add in integration with other Microsoft devices and you basically solve the App problem. Not completely no, but they won't have to start from scratch like with Windows phone and Windows mobile. You also make a good case to sell the phone to business users since Windows 10 X is compatible with all corporate tools and azure.

Since Xbox One has integration with Windows 10 devices, you could push the Surface Duo as a gaming phone as well with real games instead of the money grabbing android stuff. With Xcloud this makes even more sense because then you can easily stream Xbox One games to your Surface Duo.

This goes for Sony as well since Microsoft isn't competing with them in the phone space, so there could be a PC PlayStation app you can download and then stream hit games like Haze from PS Now right to your Surface phone! Of course the device will also have it's own exclusive titles that take advantage of the phones touch screen and other assets.

Since Windows 10 X will be static ported through X86 or X32, Microsoft could charge a very cheap fee to allow other phone manufacturers to slap Windows 10 X on their phones, and without the red tape you get with Google or Apple. This could help quickly carve out 15% of the phone market or more in a short period of time allowing for competition. This will result in the industry becoming more healthy ad no longer staying stagnant.

In the end everyone would win. Let me know your thoughts.
 
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Deleted member 17706

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I like the idea of a really good and supported Windows phone, but I'm not sure about that Duo as a daily driver... I'd be worried about the life of the hinge mechanism for a device I open up dozens of times per day over 3+ years.
 
I like the idea of a really good and supported Windows phone, but I'm not sure about that Duo as a daily driver... I'd be worried about the life of the hinge mechanism for a device I open up dozens of times per day over 3+ years.

The Duo doesn't use a single screen like the other fads, so there shouldn't be any reason to believe the hinge would be less durable than the Flip Phones or texting phones from 12 years ago since it's two separate parts.

I do think battery life might be an issue unless we have a small breakthrough in battery tech by next year. It's also likely it will be over $1000.
 

Super Mario

Banned
Still blows my mind that a company that once nearly had a monopoly on computing, couldn't make any headway once the computer was handheld.

Never get complacent.
 

Gibbs

Member
I preferred my windows phone over both android and iphone. Problem was that MS just didn't have backing with app support. If MS was more open minded and was willing to work with developers, there would have been a chance they could have survived. I left because of the app support.

Give me a new windows phone with stable hardware and app support similar to the other leading OS, and I'm back in. I really miss the home screen and those live tiles!
 

BadBurger

Gold Member
I guess it could work. The SnapDragon is ARM, but I don't know if that is compatible with the current Microsoft ARM-compatible apps because the instruction set of the SnapDragon is RISC (not sure if Microsoft's ARM apps are).

Microsoft could then use a modified SQ1 (their new ARM processor, it's in the latest Surface), but part of the reason the Surface X is so expensive is because of that processor.
 
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Elektro Demon

Shits and Giggles
I'm one of the few people who actually liked the windows phone. It was so much better then any android I've used.
 

BadBurger

Gold Member
I guess it could work. The SnapDragon is ARM, but I don't know if that is compatible with the current Microsoft ARM-compatible apps because the instruction set of the SnapDragon is RISC (not sure if Microsoft's ARM apps are).

Microsoft could then use a modified SQ1 (their new ARM processor, it's in the latest Surface), but part of the reason the Surface X is so expensive is because of that processor.

OK I did a quick search, and apparently ARM is only RISC, so please, pardon my ignorance.
 

TTOOLL

Member
I had a Nokia Lumia and still preferred it's simplicity and design UI Design over what Android proposes...

Imagine not having to deal with Google Play Services anymore. I know I could buy an iPhone but gotta wait for the non-notch models that are not 4 years old.
 

quickwhips

Member
if they made a windows 10 phone and gave me the basic apps I want I would be really happy for that instead of iphone.
 

Pejo

Member
I preferred my windows phone over both android and iphone. Problem was that MS just didn't have backing with app support. If MS was more open minded and was willing to work with developers, there would have been a chance they could have survived. I left because of the app support.

Give me a new windows phone with stable hardware and app support similar to the other leading OS, and I'm back in. I really miss the home screen and those live tiles!
Agreed on all points. They even had a plan to launch that software package to devs that basically takes a functional Android app and convert it to Windows Phone apps for them, but it got shitcanned with the rest of Windows Phone.

I really hope they don't get back into the mobile industry full tilt again if they're going to ruin it from the start with poor app support. Apps are everything these days - nobody has a phone just to make calls anymore.
 

BadBurger

Gold Member
Lumia 640 is the best phone I had. Shame about the app wasteland...
I really miss that tap-screen-twice feature lol

Remember when they tried to solicit the community to become involved and began paying individuals to port various popular applications from Android? A bunch of devs from around the world started slapping together the laziest, in some cases dangerous, barebones ports and flooding the store with them. There were around twenty worthless versions of any given app. The store became essentially unusable within a week.
 
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