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Japan: Final Fantasy XV down ~56% from FF13, lowest singleplayer debut since FF5

Update:

To follow up on how it's doing post release:

05./01. [PS4] Final Fantasy XV # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2016.11.29} (¥8.800) - 79.792 / 770.263 (-88%)

It looks like sales will be very frontloaded, similar to other entries in the series.

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This isn't especially shocking given the state of the Japanese console market, but we generally have these threads anyway.

The game is likely to have the lowest LTD in Japan since Final Fantasy 2.

Media Create data:

01./00. [PS4] Final Fantasy XV # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2016.11.29} (¥8.800) - 690.471 / NEW

01. / 00. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) - 1.501.964 / NEW

And here's the series' history using Famitsu data (which is in the same ballpark):

&#332;kami;225528637 said:
[FC] Final Fantasy - ? / 520.000

[FC] Final Fantasy II - 9.566pts (two week period) / 760.000

[FC] Final Fantasy III - 12.631pts / 1.400.000

[SFC] Final Fantasy IV - ? / 1.440.000

[SFC] Final Fantasy V - ? / 2.450.000

[SFC] Final Fantasy VI - 278.159pts / 2.550.000

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[PS1] Final Fantasy VII - 2.034.879 / 3.277.776

[PS1] Final Fantasy VIII - 2.504.044 / 3.501.588

[PS1] Final Fantasy IX - 1.954.421 / 2.707.301

[PS2] Final Fantasy X - 1.749.737 / 2.325.215

[PS2] Final Fantasy XII - 1.840.397 / 2.322.541

[PS3] Final Fantasy XIII - 1.516.532 / 1.905.979
For FW figures during Famitsu's point system era
roughly:

FF6 1,210,000
FF5 340,000
FF4 ??
FF3 290,000 (2 weeks)
FF2 240,000 (weeks 2,3)
FF1 ??

LTD Ship:

FF6 2.55m
FF5 2.45m
FF4 1.44m
FF3 1.41m
FF2 0.76m
FF1 0.52m
 

duckroll

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01./00. [PS4] Final Fantasy XV # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2016.11.29} (¥8.800) - 690.471 / NEW
19./00. [XB1] Final Fantasy XV # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2016.11.29} (¥8.800) - 3.791 / NEW

|System | This Week | Last Week | YTD | LTD |
| PS4 | 118.350 | 42.102 | 1.443.946 | 3.745.023 |
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01. / 00. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) - 1.501.964 / NEW

|System | This Week | Last Week | YTD | LTD |
| PS3 | 237.086 | 75.086 | 1.654.012 | 4.276.480 |
Lowest debut for a numbered FF in Japan in forever. Less than half the sales of FFXIII's debut. Half the number of PS4s sold at FFXV's launch compared to PS3s at FFXIII's launch.

 

kewlmyc

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Are we not counting XIII-2 and Lightning Returns or are those considered spinoffs?
 

Venfayth

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Is this specific to Japan? Thought I had seen a headline saying it shipped > 5m units
 

Gipsy Danger

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Does this say more about the game/franchise or the state of gaming in Japan?

I didn't really enjoy the game but this still seems somewhat concerning.
 

TheExorzist

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Well, no surprise considering how much consoles lost their importance in Japan.
I expect future FF to cater even more to Western audiences.
 

Nameless

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Lowest debut for a numbered FF in Japan in forever. Less than half the sales of FFXIII's debut. Half the number of PS4s sold at FFXV's launch compared to PS3s at FFXIII's launch.

People will ignore for doomsday posting, but the console market is in a different place.
 

Kouriozan

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Everytime you boot up the game it says "a Final Fantasy for fans and newcomers", looks like this strategy didn't help.
Of course there is other factors like the sad state of console gaming in Japan.
FF XVI will likely have a smaller budget and devs time (not making another open world will help)
 

Philippo

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Hardly fault of the game or the FF brand, everybody know home console gaming in Japan is a little more than a corpse.

What number came close this year? P5? Tales of Berseria? Yakuza?
 

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Not surprising, as the OP said, considering the Japanese console market. Even Persona 5 debuted with ~264,000, as I recall, and was top of the charts too.

So, poor sales historically, but solid sales contemporaneously, I think.
 

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People will ignore for doomsday posting, but the console market is in a different place.
Yes, it is in a different place. The place where Persona 5 can double what Persona 4 sold, while FFXV halves what FFXIII sold. A place called... justice.
 

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The game doesn't really deserve to do better than past FFs, should have been delayed another year.
 

DarkLordMalik

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Hardly fault of the game or the FF brand, everybody know home console gaming in Japan is a little more than a corpse.

What number came close this year? P5? Tales of Berseria? Yakuza?
No game has managed to reach this number yet on PS4.

Knack 2 is a good contender though.

Yes, it is in a different place. The place where Persona 5 can double what Persona 4 sold, while FFXV halves what FFXIII sold. A place called... justice.
Not hard when you already have a low ceiling.
 

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Motomu Toriyama killed FF. If XV was everything everyone ever wanted, the legacy of last generation's trilogy damaged it.

Think of your favourite FFs that you played when you were young.
Now think of a kid playing XIII, XIII-2 or LR as their first FF.
 

Grandius

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I try to remember recent new releases of other titles for PS4 in Japan, and, I think that ~700000 is not that bad nowadays (for Japan only).
 

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How can we blame "the state of consoles in Japan" when games like persona 5 have had their biggest openings in history? Didn't Atlus just say P5 was their strongest debut, sales wise?

Looks more like FF falling off than consoles in Japan.