Japanese Sales: 2012 Jul 09 - Jul 15

My personal favorite comparison is about generation decline and how Dante's Inferno's first month outsold Max Payne 3's first month, the 5-6 years in development, 5+ studio Rockstar May game.
We were talking about this in the NPD thread, but is it really just generational decline or other forms of monetization sucking the life out of retail. Anyway, that's getting a little off topic as the Japanese market seems to be doing much better due to the 3DS.

Edit: As for Training games, is there any sign in Japan that people are still into these types of games. I don't remember Brain Training being on the charts nearly as long as Nintendo's other evergreens. Mario Kart DS was still charting like last year.
 
3DS

2M+
New Super Mario Bros. 2
Animal Crossing: Jump Out

500k+
Paper Mario: Sticker Star

300k+
Professor Layton VS Ace Attorney
Inazuma Eleven Go 2: Chrono Stone

200k+
Bravely Default
Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon

100k+
Oni Training (wild card)
AKB48+Me
Rune Factory 4
Project X Zone
Medabots 7
Samurai Chronicles 2nd
Shin Megami Tensei IV

Not Sure: Lost Heroes, E.X. Troopers


PSV

200k+
Soul Sacrifice (wild card)
Hatsune Miku Diva f

100k+
Legend of Heroes Zero no Kiseki Evolution
Earth Defense Forces 3 Portable (probably not)

This is how I see it.
Ok when put this way (and lunchwithyuzo's) it does seem kinda bad :X
 
We were talking about this in the NPD thread, but is it really just generational decline or other forms of monetization sucking the life out of retail. Anyway, that's getting a little off topic as the Japanese market seems to be doing much better due to the 3DS.

Edit: As for Training games, is there any sign in Japan that people are still into these types of games. I don't remember Brain Training being on the charts nearly as long as Nintendo's other evergreens. Mario Kart DS was still charting like last year.
Well, here's the data we have:









 
Hmm, I don't want to say the training games were a fad, but it looks like something went very wrong with the Wii game. Perhaps it being on a console. The problem with Oni Training is also the higher pricepoint its launching at.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
New releases

{2012.07.26}

[3DS] Cave Story 3D <ACT> (Nippon Ichi Software) (¥5.040)
[3DS] Kobitodzukan: Kobito Kansatsu Set <SLG> (Nippon) (¥5.040)

[PSV] NextRev: FP Ginoukentei Shiken 2-Kyuu <EDU> (Media-5) (¥5.800)
[PSV] NextRev: FP Ginoukentei Shiken 3-Kyuu <EDU> (Media-5) (¥5.800)

[PSP] Nayuta no Kiseki # <RPG> (Falcom) (¥6.090)
[PSP] Nayuta no Kiseki [Limited Edition] <RPG> (Falcom) (¥7.980)
[PSP] Super Dangan-Ronpa 2: Sayonara Zetsubou Gakuen # <ADV> (Spike Chunsoft) (¥6.279)
[PSP] Super Dangan-Ronpa 2: Sayonara Zetsubou Gakuen [Ultra-High School Super-Class Limited Box 2] <ADV> (Spike Chunsoft) (¥9.429)
[PSP] Dunamis 15 # <ADV> (5pb.) (¥6.090)
[PSP] Dunamis 15 [First Press Limited Edition] <ADV> (5pb.) (¥8.190)
[PSP] Shirokuma Belles Stars: Happy Holidays! # <ADV> (Asgard) (¥6.090)
[PSP] Shirokuma Belles Stars: Happy Holidays! [Limited Edition] <ADV> (Asgard) (¥8.190)
[PSP] ChronoBelt Schwarz Oath # <ADV> (Asgard) (¥5.040)
[PSP] ChronoBelt Schwarz Oath [Limited Edition] <ADV> (Asgard) (¥7.140)
[PSP] ChronoBelt Schwarz Oath [Limited Triple Pack] <ADV> (Asgard) (¥11.340)
[PSP] Grim the Bounty Hunter # <ADV> (QuinRose) (¥6.300)
[PSP] Grim the Bounty Hunter [Deluxe Edition] <ADV> (QuinRose) (¥8.925)
[PSP] Saihate no Ima Portable # <ADV> (CyberFront) (¥6.090)
[PSP] Saihate no Ima Portable [Limited Edition] <ADV> (CyberFront) (¥8.190)
[PSP] Hakuisei Renai Shoukougun(Best Hit Selection) <ADV> (CyberFront) (¥2.940)
[PSP] Sangoku Koi Senki: Otome no Heihou! <ADV> (Prototype) (¥5.880)
[PSP] Boku no Natsuyasumi Portable 2: The Mysterious Sisters and the Secrets of the Sunken Ship (PSP the Best) <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) (¥2.800)

[WII] Just Dance Wii 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) (¥5.800)

[PS3] Persona 4 Arena <FTG> (Atlus) (¥7.329)
[PS3] The Super Dimension Fortress Macross: Do You Remember Love - Hybrid Pack # <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥7.140)
[PS3] The Super Dimension Fortress Macross: Do You Remember Love - Hybrid Pack [30th Anniversary Box] <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥13.800)
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors: Strikeforce 2 HD Version <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥4.178)
[PS3] Alice: Madness Returns (EA Best Hits) <ADV> (Electronic Arts) (¥3.129)

[360] Persona 4 Arena <FTG> (Atlus) (¥7.329)
[360] Alice: Madness Returns (Revised Price) <ADV> (Electronic Arts) (¥3.129)


{2012.07.28}

[3DS] Nintendo 3DS LL White <H-W> (Nintendo) (¥18.900)
[3DS] Nintendo 3DS LL Silver x Black <H-W> (Nintendo) (¥18.900)
[3DS] Nintendo 3DS LL Red x Black <H-W> (Nintendo) (¥18.900)
[3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) (¥4.800)
[3DS] Tohoku Daigaku Karei Igaku Kenkyuusho - Kawashima Ryuuta Kyouju Kanshuu - Mono Sugoku Nou o Kitaeru 5-Funkan no Oni Training <EDU> (Nintendo) (¥3.800)
 
I think the big problem with the Vita list is that half the games are also on PS3 or PSP. If we pare both lists down to exclusives, we get

3DS
New Super Mario Bros. 2
Oni Training
Rune Factory 4
Bravely Default: Flying Fairy
Animal Crossing: Jump Out
Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon
Paper Mario: Sticker Star
Project X Zone
AKB48+Me
Professor Layton VS Ace Attorney
Fantasy Life
Senran Kagura Burst
Medabots 7
Samurai Warriors Chronicles 2nd
Inazuma Eleven Go 2: Chrono Stone
Grandpa Danger Conversion
Kokuga
Naruto SD Powerful Shippuden
Shin Megami Tensei IV


Vita
Ogarhythm
Special Reporting Division
Hatsune Miku: Project Diva f (timed, PS3 in 2013)
LittleBigPlanet
DJ Max Techinka Tune (arcade port)
Ys Celceta, Sea of Trees (technically a Ys IV remake, but essentially new)
Soul Sacrifice
How awful. TGS can't come soon enough.
 
How awful. TGS can't come soon enough.
But the question also could be: If one could argue that the Vita has a bunch of potential software announcements on the way, whats to prevent the same scenario for the 3DS with third parties?

What if most 3rd parties are actually holding back announcements, but for the 3DS, not the Vita?

(just for discussion sake)
 
In case anyone was wondering, it's a stupid title in Japanese too.

But the question also could be: If one could argue that the Vita has a bunch of potential software announcements on the way, whats to prevent the same scenario for the 3DS with third parties?

What if most 3rd parties are actually holding back announcements, but for the 3DS, not the Vita?

(just for discussion sake)
No. Only Vita has games to be announced. 3rd parties are going to be fair and devote their time to Vita for a few years now that 3DS is a success. Try 2015 for new 3DS game announcements.
 
Personally I just don't see how Sony could leave a system sitting on the store shelves to rot without announcing even logos at E3 or any other time. You could bring up the counterargument that Nintendo didn't announce Monster Hunter until 3 months before shipping but Nintendo had already announced 3D Land and Mario Kart well in advance. What I'm trying to say is that my expectations of huge TGS announcements are low, especially if Vita Heaven 2 doesn't deliever.
 
But the question also could be: If one could argue that the Vita has a bunch of potential software announcements on the way, whats to prevent the same scenario for the 3DS with third parties?

What if most 3rd parties are actually holding back announcements, but for the 3DS, not the Vita?

(just for discussion sake)
That's the scary part.

No. Only Vita has games to be announced. 3rd parties are going to be fair and devote their time to Vita for a few years now that 3DS is a success. Try 2015 for new 3DS game announcements.
That gave me quite a good laugh haha
 
For a dead system, the PSP sure gets much support still. I wonder how long it will be supported.
Seems like a bunch of VNs. For such cheap projects like that it doesn't make sense to move on with the sub 10k people that will buy them are already on the PSP. Is there any semi big game coming out for PSP after Little Battlers W? I would say God Eater 2, but there's a good chance it moved platforms.
 
Seems like a bunch of VNs. For such cheap projects like that it doesn't make sense to move on with the sub 10k people that will buy them are already on the PSP. Is there any semi big game coming out for PSP after Little Battlers W? I would say God Eater 2, but there's a good chance it moved platforms.
Could be, still great support though.

That One Piece RPG game might sell pretty good.
 
After the PSP is gone for real, I wonder where the visual novels/anime games will go.

[WII] Just Dance Wii 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) (¥5.800)
I thought the first Just Dance would get some kind of bump on anticipation of this release (like the taiko wii bump before the 3ds release), but it didn't even appear on the charts. I'm curious about how will the sequel do, can't wait for next next week
 

Gospel

Parmesan et Romano
Personally I just don't see how Sony could leave a system sitting on the store shelves to rot without announcing even logos at E3 or any other time. You could bring up the counterargument that Nintendo didn't announce Monster Hunter until 3 months before shipping but Nintendo had already announced 3D Land and Mario Kart well in advance. What I'm trying to say is that my expectations of huge TGS announcements are low, especially if Vita Heaven 2 doesn't deliever.
you can't show logos of what you don't have. well, you could but that would be in poor taste. at least again, anyway.
 
For a dead system (at least according some of the comments i've read here :p), the PSP sure gets much support still. I wonder how long it will be supported.
The longer it lives the quicker the Vita's death will be. The 3DS had similar issues. People weren't done with the DS, until Nintendo actually made the 3DS cheaper than the DS in some regions with the pricecut, forcing people to move forward. Sony has to figure out how to take the appeal out of the PSP and leave customers with no other option.
 

Currygan

at last, for christ's sake
Personally I just don't see how Sony could leave a system sitting on the store shelves to rot without announcing even logos at E3 or any other time. You could bring up the counterargument that Nintendo didn't announce Monster Hunter until 3 months before shipping but Nintendo had already announced 3D Land and Mario Kart well in advance. What I'm trying to say is that my expectations of huge TGS announcements are low, especially if Vita Heaven 2 doesn't deliever.
maybe they're content with what they're doing? After all, Vita is earning money while the 3DS will only begin this year

I know it's silly but reasons are damn scarce if you think about the dreadful situation
 
maybe they're content with what they're doing? After all, Vita is earning money while the 3DS will only begin this year

I know it's silly but reasons are damn scarce if you think about the dreadful situation
Considering the amount of money spent on marketing and distribution, Vita most likely has Sony in the red right now. If you take R&D and games development into account Vita is a money sinkhole at this point.

you can't show logos of what you don't have.
See: Nintendo at E3 2010 with Saints Row and Assassin's Creed. Or see everyone coming out with a new system and the huge lists of TBA titles.
 

Gospel

Parmesan et Romano
See: Nintendo at E3 2010 with Saints Row and Assassin's Creed. Or see everyone coming out with a new system and the huge lists of TBA titles.
The difference here is that those games were intended to hit the 3ds at some point. We know Saint's Row: Drive-by was planned to hit xbla and the 3ds, but both were cancelled along with another Saint's Row title. Thanks to developer interviews, we also know that Assassin's Creed became Revelations at some point.

Now whether or not nintendo knew these games where going to be cancelled is really another discussion, but it's fairly obvious that at some point in time these were in the pipeline for the 3ds.
 
"[3DS] Tohoku Daigaku Karei Igaku Kenkyuusho - Kawashima Ryuuta Kyouju Kanshuu - Mono Sugoku Nou o Kitaeru 5-Funkan no Oni Training <EDU> (Nintendo) (¥3.800)"

That's a mouthful and a half! lol

Does that entire title get printed on the game/box in JP?
 
The difference here is that those games were intended to hit the 3ds at some point. We know Saint's Row: Drive-by was planned to hit xbla and the 3ds, but both were cancelled along with another Saint's Row title. Thanks to developer interviews, we also know that Assassin's Creed became Revelations at some point.

Now whether or not nintendo knew these games where going to be cancelled is really another discussion, but it's fairly obvious that at some point in time these were in the pipeline for the 3ds.

I think my original point was that Sony has had all the chances in the world to show off logos saying that Vita hasn't been left out to dry by Japanese publishers and they've failed to do so.Nintendo showed those logos because they were planning on hitting the 3DS at some point even if they got cancelled. The fact that Sony can't even pull out logos when there system is outright failing is what I said did not give me confidence for a strong TGS showing

Of course I could be completely wrong and for whatever reason they could have a large bag of tricks up their sleeve that they don't want to announce for whatever reason.
 
man it was sure weird when the first brain age came out. 'oh hey that brain age thing sold another 40k this week. that's weird'

and then nothing was ever the same.
 
The longer it lives the quicker the Vita's death will be. The 3DS had similar issues. People weren't done with the DS, until Nintendo actually made the 3DS cheaper than the DS in some regions with the pricecut, forcing people to move forward. Sony has to figure out how to take the appeal out of the PSP and leave customers with no other option.
I dont think that Vita will die quicker because of the PSP. But yep, the key is to make the new system interesting enough so that people want to buy it instead of buying the old one. This will lead to that the older system will phase out on its own, and then there is no need to take direct actions trying to kill of an older system.
 

Sage00

Once And Future Member
What's up with Japanese and that annoying background noise in the beginning of the CM? It's in every goddamn anime show and movie and everything else.
They're cicadas. You hear them in summer, the ad is for summer, he's talking about summer.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
They are already pushing MH4 - game will be massive. Wonder how and when they'll introduce a Best-price Tri G version - since it's still selling steadily at its current price.
 
Dengeki Sales, Jul 09 - 15, 2012 (Week 28)

01. (01) [NDS] Pokemon Black 2 (Pokemon Co.) - 67,075 / 1,221,867 (-34%)
02. (__) [3DS] Taiko Drum Master: Chibi Dragon to Fushigina Orb (Bandai Namco) - 63,500 / 63,500 [ST: ~45% => 141,000]
03. (03) [NDS] Pokemon White 2 (Pokemon Co.) - 55,305 / 1,083,168 (-30%)
04. (__) [3DS] Pocket Soccer League: Calciobit (Nintendo) - 25,741 / 25,741
05. (04) [3DS] Little Battlers eXperience: Baku Boost (Level 5) - 19,363 / 80,286 (-68%)
06. (07) [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D (Square Enix) - 17,863 / 816,831 (-30%)
07. (02) [3DS] Etrian Odyssey IV: Denshou no Kyojin (Atlus) - 16,338 / 107,388 (-82%)
08. (05) [PSP] Toriko: Gourmet Survival! 2 (Bandai Namco) - 12,990 / 54,895 (-69%)
09. (09) [PS3] Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Future Soldier (Ubisoft) - 10,694 / 33,875 (-54%)
10. (10) [WII] Mario Party 9 (Nintendo) - 9,653 / 504,670 (-22%)
11. (__) [3DS] Time Travelers (Level 5) - 9,491 / 9,491
12. (__) [PSV] Time Travelers (Level 5) - 8,920 / 8,920
13. (13) [3DS] Mario Tennis Open (Nintendo) - 6,916 / 232,179 (-27%)
14. (08) [PS3] Anarchy Reigns (SEGA) - 6,593 / 30,319 (-72%)
15. (17) [PSV] Persona 4 Golden (Atlus) - 6,244 / 195,289 (-12%)
16. (14) [PS3] Tokyo Jungle (SCE) - 6,089 / 196,149 (-28%)
17. (11) [PS3] Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Twilight Land (Gust) - 5,394 / 82,010 (-51%)
18. (12) [3DS] Culdcept (Nintendo) - 5,356 / 68,216 (-51%)
19. (__) [PSV] Resistance: Burning Skies (SCE) - 4,822 / 4,822
20. (24) [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land (Nintendo) - 4,678 / ?

*ST: Sell-through => estimated copies shipped.


Other software (first week / LTD):

2008-04-24 [NDS] Taiko Drum Master DS: The 7 Island Adventure (Bandai Namco) - 59,000 / 718,000
2010-07-01 [NDS] Taiko Drum Master DS: Dororon! Yokai Daikessen!! (Bandai Namco) - 68,000 / 366,000


http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/510/510002/
http://megalodon.jp/2012-0720-2208-02/news.dengeki.com/soft/ranking/ranking.html

Dengeki Sales: Week 27, 2012 (Jul 02 - Jul 08)

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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
21./19. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800)
22./20. [PSP] Kenka Bancho Bros: Tokyo Battle Royale <ADV> (Spike) {2012.06.21} (¥5.229)
23./14. [PS3] Resident Evil Chronicles HD Selection <STG> (Capcom) {2012.06.28} (¥4.990)
24./27. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800)
25./25. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Definitive Edition # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.11.23} (¥5.040)
26./16. [PS3] Robotics;Notes # <ADV> (5pb.) {2012.06.28} (¥7.140)
27./26. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800)
28./21. [WII] Fatal Frame 2: Wii Edition <ADV> (Nintendo) {2012.06.28} (¥6.800)
29./32. [WII] Wii Party # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2010.07.08} (¥4.800)
30./38. [WII] Kirby's Return to Dream Land <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.10.27} (¥5.800)
31./34. [PS3] Dragon's Dogma <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.05.24} (¥7.990)
32./24. [PS3] Batman: Arkham City (Warner the Best) <ADV> (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2012.07.05} (¥2.980)
33./33. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games <SPT> (Nintendo) {2012.03.01} (¥4.800)
34./39. [WII] Just Dance Wii <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.10.13} (¥5.800)
35./29. [PSP] Final Fantasy IV: The Complete Collection (Ultimate Hits) <RPG> (Square Enix) {2012.07.05} (¥2.940)
36./36. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening <SLG> (Nintendo) {2012.04.19} (¥4.800)
37./41. [PSV] Mobile Suit Gundam Seed: Battle Destiny <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.06.07} (¥5.980)
38./44. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 XL Edition <RCE> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2012.02.02} (¥4.980)
39./42. [WII] Mario Kart Wii <RCE> (Nintendo) {2008.04.10} (¥5.800)
40./43. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 (PSP the Best) <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.09.22} (¥2.990)
41./40. [3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog / Shiba / Toy Poodle & New Friends <ETC> (Nintendo) {2011.02.26} (¥4.800)
42./37. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2012 <SPT> (Konami) {2011.10.06} (¥7.980)
43./31. [PS3] Batman: Arkham Asylum (Warner the Best) <ADV> (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2012.07.05} (¥2.980)
44./00. [PS3] Battlefield 3 <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2011.11.02} (¥7.665)
45./50. [PSP] Taiko no Tatsujin Portable DX <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.07.14} (¥5.229)
46./00. [NDS] Battle & Get! Pokemon Typing DS # <ACT> (Pokemon Co.) {2011.04.21} (¥5.800)
47./48. [3DS] Harvest Moon: A New Beginning <SLG> (Marvelous AQL) {2012.02.23} (¥5.040)
48./45. [PSP] Akiba's Trip Plus <ADV> (Acquire) {2012.06.14} (¥3.990)
49./00. [NDS] Pokemon Black / White # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2010.09.18} (¥4.800)
50./00. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2012 <SPT> (Konami) {2012.03.29} (¥5.980)
00./00. [GBA] Soccer Team Building: Calciobit <SLG> (Nintendo) {2006.05.18} (¥3.800) - * / 36.000

Top 50

3DS - 15
PS3 - 12
WII - 8
PSP - 7
PSV - 5
NDS - 3

SOFTWARE
Code:
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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
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|  ALL  |    610.000 |    838.000 |    873.000 | 25.098.000 | 23.030.000 |
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
First day sellthrough

Digimon World Re:Digitize - 80% (initial shipment 100k)
Rune Factory 4: A Fantasy Harvest Moon - 50-60%
Kirby's Dream Collection: Special Edition - 20-30%
Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2012 - 20-30% (PSV>PS3>PSP at sellthrough)
Time Travelers - 10%
 
Digimon World Re:Digitize - 80% (initial shipment 100k)
Whoa!


Time Travelers - 10%
Haha!


[NDS] Digimon World DS (Namco Bandai) {2006-06-15} - 44,932 / 217,986
[NDS] Digimon World: Dusk / Dawn (Namco Bandai) {2007-03-29} - 72,308 / 185,110
[NDS] Digimon Championship (Namco Bandai) {2008-02-14} - 17,812 / 46,860
[NDS] Digimon Rosutoeboryushon (Namco Bandai) {2010-07-01} - 36,105 / 80,279
[NDS] Digimon Story: Super Xros Wars - Blue / Red (Namco Bandai) { 2011-03-03} - 28,499 / 67,819
 
I'm awaiting the moment Time Travelers becomes the next million seller for PSP, that will show you all non believers.

Hino will come post on NeoGAF and you will all bow down to him. He will then proceed to tattoo the GAF logo on his left buttock, and the word BELIEVE in the other.