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Jared Fogle's (Subway guy) home raided in federal Child Porn investigation
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Waka waka.
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The bartender looks at Rape and says "Why the long face?". Rape says "I was raped" the bartender says "With a six inch dick or a twelve inch dick?!". Everyone laughs and posts reaction gifs.
easterislandhead
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Gaf isn't the place to discuss your taste in humour.
Unless your joke is about inatimate objects and ends in these objects riding into the sunset happily ever after you'll get a bunch of whiny child like posters speaking with 100% emotion and 0% logic.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Nothing has been said about what the investigation turned up yet. It might be a while since the raid happened just this morning.
entremet
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Technically, there have been no accusations against Jared yet. This is an investigation.
It usually goes like this.
Investigation
Accusation, when charges are handed out.
Trial (if it goes to trial)
Jury Decision
A Grand Jury is dependent on the state and their laws.
A person could go through all that and still be innocent, not just legally innocent, but really innocent.
A few ignorant forum members won't make a difference, though those members should be ashamed. No actual police report(s) or news articles called him a child pornographer.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Zip?
The person i gave a ride to work not more than 40 min ago said "Did you hear, Jareds a pedophile!" Also heard two separate morning radio shows doing "news" where they both said he was raided for child porn "Disgusting!" "If you are a parent, its the most horrible crime!"
Bluekaveli
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Some of those old hacker files had executable folders lol.
I know the nature of news these days is to run with the first morsel they get, but they are looking at his house due to the relation of the actual child porn holder to Jared's foundation. Now that it's out there, most will assume he's got the porn, which would be terrible for him if he's clean.
Having said that, by the time investigators are pouring into your house, they know a lot more than onlookers do. Gotta wait and see.
Having said that, by the time investigators are pouring into your house, they know a lot more than onlookers do. Gotta wait and see.
Coffee Dog
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I once saw an episode of SVU where a sex offender darknet where tons of people were sharing child pornography was hidden in a "blank pixel" of a png.
I mean, you could hide a website address inside a .png so... I guess it's feasible?
BladeoftheImmortal
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New veal sandwich to be announced at subway.
Well, you all look like idiots now for just assuming the worst. Why can't/don't people wait for facts to be confirmed before making any judgmental comments? If the guy had turned out to be a pedophile, fair enough, but now because some people jumped the gun in todays 'EVERY MAN IS A PEDOPHILE!' world, his life is ruined. Good job, guys.
Perspicacity
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The sad man looks at the doctor... "But Doctor, I am child pornography"
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Need to find a way to work "jet fuel doesnt melt steel beams" into it.
Investigation != charges. If they find a connection? Yeah, to the bushes with him. But until then: Premature outcry over someone that may/may not be guilty of possessing childporn. You're putting the cart before the horse and all that.
water_wendi said:
Sadly you're right if the above post is public indication.
That's how the media works in America. We put up mugshots of people accused of crimes before they're ever taken to court on public TV just to shame and socially cripple them.
Waiting for the facts has been demonized even on neogaf. It's a long battle to clear your name I'm sure.
Hari Seldon
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I want to think the best of Jared but usually the feds aren't wrong when they raid someone. I doubt they would perform a warrant raid if it was just about his already convicted former employee.
And this is why how child pornography is prosecuted in the US needs to change. All the evidence seems to be pointing to Jared being innocent, but because of how these investigations are handled, basically being a public swat raid, he is going to forever be viewed as guilty by the public for being raided, even though he is innocent. Production should be criminal, possession only should be sent to intensive rehab.
superseohyun
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innocent or not，he is gonna suffer for a long time from now on.
entremet
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Very strange too. This forum tend to be very rational with science, but when it's about court of law issues, it's all out the window.
Ninja Scooter
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Looks like Jared is in the clear, but that other dude is fucked. Can you say Five....five year....five year prison term
kingwingin
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If Jared goes down I guess they will have to bring back clay henry.
Bobby Roberts
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This is the first punchline I've read in here that actually works. Nice.
This one isn't bad either.
Already convicted?
Court of Law =/= Court of Public Opinion
Which can be a good thing or a bad thing depending of the situation
Vigilant Walrus
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This is the crux of it isn't it. You might in lawyer terms only be allowed to say "allegedly" but in the eyes of many people he is already guilty because "He wouldn't be accused of something like this unless something was up".
And we have that belief system with a lot of things. We don't think about getting cancer, getting mugged or driven over by a car unless it happens to us or someone very close to us. Everything is just distanced and we tend not to weigh the alternatives highly.
Regardless of what Jared has or hasn't done, his life as he know it is pretty much over. This is never going away and now he has to live with this with the rest of his life.
This is not just child porn accusations either - We've had this debate before in many threads before about alleged rapes. - "Not guilty until proven" versus "Guilty until you can prove your innocence".
It being so hard for rape victims to come forward that one is particularly difficult to deal with.
entremet
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But there is no evidence yet. It's just in the investigation phase. He even hasn't been charged with anything.
Right, and we don't even know if they're investigating him.
AuthenticM
Member
This is weird. I heard a "Jared from Subway" joke the other day, probably while watching a TV show or movie. It was the first time I was reminded of the guy in probably a decade. And now this.
I cannot remember where I heard the joke though, and it's bothering me.
I cannot remember where I heard the joke though, and it's bothering me.
Angelus Errare
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Unfortunately just the news of this has probably tarnished his image.
Hari Seldon
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Maybe i'm confused, but isn't there someone who is associated with Jared who was already in jail for this shit?
What evidence are you looking at?
the former director of the Jared Foundation.
Hari Seldon
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Yeah so why would they be raiding Jared if they already nabbed that guy?
He's been arrested and accused. It makes sense that investigation could potentially lead to more raids like this.
I don't think he's been convicted, just arrested. So feasibly they could be gathering more evidence via this raid.
entremet
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The guys used a folder labeled after his work--The Jared Fogle Foundation--to stash his porn.
It's in the OP.
Hari Seldon
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Oh ok so the guy wasn't actually convicted yet, just arrested. Makes sense thanks.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/07/07/subway-jared-fogle-child-porn-investigation/
Some law enforcement source is telling CBS he's a suspect so I don't think they are just looking for evidence against his former partner.
Some law enforcement source is telling CBS he's a suspect so I don't think they are just looking for evidence against his former partner.
entremet
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Of course he'd be suspected after his employee labeled child porn stuff under Jared's company name.
Whether they turn up any smoking gun, only time will tell.
DrForester
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He's probably lost his Subway contract. Hopefully he invested well.
You've been around the block long enough to know The Court of Public Opinion doesn't need evidence (again for both the better and the worse - usually the worse though).
Even if Jared comes up squeaky clean, the damage to his image and marketability is probably done. Especially since the investigation involves a sex-crime/sexual matters.
Man how shitty would that be to go to jail for child porn cause the head of your company was a loon.
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