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[data_jack]

Ending looks dope. I don’t think there is anything wrong with preventing societal conflict over centuries although the use of “woke” is pretty cringey IMO. I wonder what his daughter’s ending is?

 

[Hobo Box]

I wonder what his daughter’s ending is?

 

[Hobo Box]

I wonder what his daughter’s ending is?

Spoiler: I'm an idiot. Spoiler, obviously.

She obliterates herself from existence to go back in time and save Jax from ever dying and becoming a Revenant in MK9. He goes on to continue to serve and save thousands, not haunted by what he did under Quan Chi's control, but he never meets his wife and never has Jacqui as a result

 

[SlashBringingHasher]

Wakanda ending was that?

Oh you didn't do it.

 

[Dacon]

Implying that slavery was the only thing holding Africa back, and not the rampant tribalism, the fascist, militaristic, oppressive dictators, the all-powerful warlords, the insane racism... Nah, all that goes away if we just stop slavery.

In addition, boiling down Jax's entire character that's formed over the course of the series to "black man" so he can go back in time to stop black slavery is actually a gigantic middle finger to people who actually like Jax. Jacqui's ending was far more profound and in line with her character, and made sense with her motivations. Why the hell couldn't Jax get that?

Exactly that.

 

[Fuz]

Badly animated-with-flash 2D cutouts for endings? Did they not make enough money with MKX?

 

[Dacon]

Spoiler: I'm an idiot. Spoiler, obviously.

She obliterates herself from existence to go back in time and save Jax from ever dying and becoming a Revenant in MK9. He goes on to continue to serve and save thousands, not haunted by what he did under Quan Chi's control, but he never meets his wife and never has Jacqui as a result

Thats really cool.

 

[MayauMiao]

Holy shit the game is full woke. Glad I didn't buy it.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

He goes back in time and stops slavery and creates peace on earth?

Should rename it Moral Kombat

 

[TheDuskwalker]

Badly animated-with-flash 2D cutouts for endings? Did they not make enough money with MKX?

MKX only sold 11 million copies, badly drawn endings and microtransactions are a necessary evil for such garbage sales.

 

[lock2k]

Forget about SJW and right and left for a sec.

As a lifelong MK fan who owns every single game in this damn franchise, I understand why this is cringey.

Of course saving Africa and erasing slavery from history would be great. No one disagrees with that.

The thing is... why is MK bringing Africa as a subject to begin with? The real Earth was never a subject in this franchise. We know Special Forces are Americans and Liu and Kung are Asian. and that's it. MK is supposed to be a fantastic world filled with strange realms, monsters and weird creatures. It should be full sci-fi fantasy shit. I never once thought about our Earth when Earthrealm came up.

Earthrealm, to me, is not our Earth. It's like a whole different planet or alternate universe much like the Game of Thrones world which is not our world at all. OK, maybe Earthrealm is our earth after all. But when you have Outworld, Edenia, Netherrealm and countless fictional races and charismatic characters... why the hell should you bring up a real world problem?

This is what bothers people. Trying to turn MK into something it never was. It turn the series into some pedestrian story and it loses the mystique it once had.

 

[Hobo Box]

Forget about SJW and right and left for a sec.

As a lifelong MK fan who owns every single game in this damn franchise, I understand why this is cringey.

Of course saving Africa and erasing slavery from history would be great. No one disagrees with that.

The thing is... why is MK bringing Africa as a subject to begin with? The real Earth was never a subject in this franchise. We know Special Forces are Americans and Liu and Kung are Asian. and that's it. MK is supposed to be a fantastic world filled with strange realms, monsters and weird creatures. It should be full sci-fi fantasy shit. I never once thought about our Earth when Earthrealm came up.

Earthrealm, to me, is not our Earth. It's like a whole different planet or alternate universe much like the Game of Thrones world which is not our world at all. OK, maybe Earthrealm is our earth after all. But when you have Outworld, Edenia, Netherrealm and countless fictional races and charismatic characters... why the hell should you bring up a real world problem?

This is what bothers people. Trying to turn MK into something it never was. It turn the series into some pedestrian story and it loses the mystique it once had.

These are pretty much my thoughts as well. It's ridiculously tone-deaf, and the only explanation is that they had a writer who's new to the series handle this part. It just feels so out-of-place, like, why the fuck are we suddenly talking about real-world slavery right after reaching a magical hourglass that lets us turn back time?

 

[Gunztrix]

Pretty corny ending. Kind of reminds me of how twisted metal ended their stories.

Not a bad ending. Don't really see the SJW stuff the op is talking about.

 

[888]

Pretty corny ending. Kind of reminds me of how twisted metal ended their stories.

Not a bad ending. Don't really see the SJW stuff the op is talking about.

Calypso was the very first thing I thought of watching that ending. But usually things are twisted to screw the character.

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

I don't know man, between Kano's ending and just how hilariously on the nose Jax's ending is, plus the obviousness of making the men scantily clad while the women are all covered up, is the whole thing a stealth parody of the SJW mindset?

You really have to wonder, if not though it's probably the stupidest example of an SJW game ever, here's hoping this is it's peak and we move away from this attitude in the future.

 

[888]

I don't know man, between Kano's ending and just how hilariously on the nose Jax's ending is, plus the obviousness of making the men scantily clad while the women are all covered up, is the whole thing a stealth parody of the SJW mindset?

You really have to wonder, if not though it's probably the stupidest example of an SJW game ever, here's hoping this is it's peak and we move away from this attitude in the future.

I hope they are taking a doom eternal angle to poke at things a bit.

 

[DeafTourette]

Implying that slavery was the only thing holding Africa back, and not the rampant tribalism, the fascist, militaristic, oppressive dictators, the all-powerful warlords, the insane racism... Nah, all that goes away if we just stop slavery.

In addition, boiling down Jax's entire character that's formed over the course of the series to "black man" so he can go back in time to stop black slavery is actually a gigantic middle finger to people who actually like Jax. Jacqui's ending was far more profound and in line with her character, and made sense with her motivations. Why the hell couldn't Jax get that?

The bolded...

Given that European colonialism and the Transatlantic Slave Trade has made Africa what it is today (mind you, a continent that's larger than North America, most of Europe and other countries COMBINED), I think you're not giving the entire continent NOR it's people enough credit.

Not to mention I don't think you have a good idea of what pre-colonial Africa was like ... It was not much different than Europe.

But the continent wasn't given a chance to be left alone unmolested. Why NOT have just traded with them? Treated them as equals?

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

I hope they are taking a doom eternal angle to poke at things a bit.

I really am wondering, MK has always had this tongue in cheek cheesy vibe that reflected the times in which they were made, this could be the 2019 equivalent, instead of the day glo spandex early 90s vibe of the original games, the "dark and gritty" vibe of the the early 2000s entries and now this "woke af" stuff, it could all be stealth parody as I said.

What's really got me thinking twice is Kano's ending, a true hardcore SJW would not allow a female character's ass to be seen in any context, even as a joke, because SJWs have no sense of humor, Kano's ending is honestly pretty clever a joke, too clever.

Not to mention that Jax already had an infamously cheesy and stupid ending in MK4, the fact that it's Jax again feels like an intentional reference to that.

I could see an older fella like Ed Boon having a joke at modern culture's expense, parody or not however this doesn't change the fact that the female character's outfits are bland and unappealing.

 

[zeroFiveNine]

Badly animated-with-flash 2D cutouts for endings? Did they not make enough money with MKX?

Watched a couple of these on the same channel as the Jax video - the quality of these endings really makes me sad. MKX's were drawn and animated so much better.

 

[TLZ]

I don't get it.

I think I'm old for this.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

Gotta love back handed slights at white people... The guilt is not working leftists.

 

[autoduelist]

Obviously. But the point is getting outraged by it is hypocritical.

I'm not outraged by it, I could care less since I'm never going to play a fighting game. Pointing out how hypocritically racist wokeness is is fun, though. Because that was some seriously racist shit. Trying to spin any criticism of it as being hypocritical activism is also pretty lame. I don't see calls for it to be banned, for doxing, etc. I just see people who wont buy it.

 

[hybrid_birth]

I just want to enjoy games without discussing politics. We go into discussing all of the politics of a certain game. Its not productive. It just turns into people arguing at each other. We have a forum section for that.

That said, I was never a fan of Mortal Kombat.

 

[somerset]

All I see is stereotyping of a 'black' character that is still designed to strip him of his fundamental Humanity,and identify him as 'the other'. The so-called 'noble savage' trick from history that was just as intentionally racist, but disguised as 'enlightened'.

When you patronise a person you degrade them. But you use words pretending you are doing the opposite. Black Panther (the movie) was one of the worst examples of this I've ever witnessed. The whole theme of the film being a super advanced African tribe/nation that did literally *nothing* to assist the rest of Africa during its times of insane hardships and mass famine. Tribalism has been the curse of Africa, yet BP glorified it. Needless to say, Disney/Marvel ain't run by people of African descent.

Go to any Nigerian forum, where real Africans talk, for instance, and you won't see them glorifying tribal thinking. The 'woke' movement is anything but anti-racist. The 'woke' see themsleves as superior people 'helping' their 'inferiors'. 100+ years ago too many well-off people who wanted to 'help' the poor had this same attitude problem. That the poor were their inferiors was taken as read- an essential part of the doctrine.

A 'white' person can be whoever he/she wished to be - but a 'good' 'black' person, in the eyes of the 'woke', has to behave in ways the 'woke' approves of. And that is what this cut scene portrays. A 'black' man puppetered to someone else's agenda. But then most Americans still 'think' there is a 'black' race- the eugenic teaching that arose in the early 19th century in US universities in a desperate attempt to justify black slavery by 'proving' 'black' Humans were a different 'race' from 'whites'.

Actually Humanity has no sub-races. There is a single Human race and that's it. In the UK in the late 19th century, racist pseudo-scientists distressed when science proved no sub-races, travelled to the USA where their racist pseudo-science was lapped up by every section of US society, left and right.

A 'black' person with a 'white' partner are *not* a 'mixed race' couple- an obscene term common today in the USA. The 'woke' movement is sponsored by the still ultra powerful eugenic bodies in the USA. There is no test for 'blackness' so when US universities give places to 'black' students for being 'black' (so-called 'positive' discrimination) is is based on the *same* pseudo-science tests used to determine if a person was 'black' for reasons of slave designation back in the slave history of the USA.

Of course, powerful entities in the USA like the fact that 'black' people are still given the same 'tests' as their slave ancestors were 150 years earlier. And most 'black' Americans refuse to object to this racist humiliation because they consider the potential 'reward' compensation.

A red-headed person does not expect to be defined by certain expectations of others, thus the red-headed person is free from discrimination. Yet red hair and dark skin are genetically *identical* concepts. That 'woke' eye that looks upon 'black' people and limits what they can be, and places external expectations on said people, is a 'slaver's eye'.

 

[autoduelist]

The issue here is that you don't exactly need to be a purple haired, screaming Tumblrette to conclude, when presented with the chance to go back in time, that stopping the past slavery of your people is a decent idea. If there was a Jewish character who went back and murdered Hitler, I doubt anyone would really point it out.

No, it's a terrible idea. As he himself says, it took multiple tries just to get his wife and kid back. He literally killed 8 billion people in his existing timeline to get 3 people in a new timeline.

My ancestors have been fucked over in history too. That doesn't mean I think killing the world for some sort of revenge porn fantasy is a good idea.

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

The video is gone, does anyone have another copy?

 

[DeafTourette]

So ONE. SINGLE. ENDING. is enough for some of y'all to not buy the game?

Fascinating!

And I'm tired of discussing race on this board and the history of African Americans ... No one listens because what do I know about being black despite BEING black, having a black Family, black friends, black neighborhood, black experience...


Lemme cool down. Wu xia...

 

[Jon Neu]

He goes back in time and stops slavery and creates peace on earth?

Should rename it Moral Kombat

Wait, he goes back in time and stops slavery?

But what slavery, just the white on african one, or the previous african on whites, other blacks, and everybody else in between?

Funny how some people still think slavery was invented 300 years ago.

The bolded...

Given that European colonialism and the Transatlantic Slave Trade has made Africa what it is today (mind you, a continent that's larger than North America, most of Europe and other countries COMBINED), I think you're not giving the entire continent NOR it's people enough credit.

Not to mention I don't think you have a good idea of what pre-colonial Africa was like ... It was not much different than Europe.

But the continent wasn't given a chance to be left alone unmolested. Why NOT have just traded with them? Treated them as equals?

Some day you should stop blaming the white man for everything.

Remember Japan? They were destroyed and colonized after WWII, and yet they have rised to be one of the most prosperous countries in the world. Russia on the other hand, while being much bigger than the entire continent of Europe, has become shit. Every continent and every country has been molested, because that's how the world works. But if you are capable, you are going to rise, no matter what.

Africa is fucked up and the only ones to blame are the africans for being incredibly incompetent and/or corrupt.

 

[Hobo Box]

So ONE. SINGLE. ENDING. is enough for some of y'all to not buy the game?

Fascinating!

And I'm tired of discussing race on this board and the history of African Americans ... No one listens because what do I know about being black despite BEING black, having a black Family, black friends, black neighborhood, black experience...


Lemme cool down. Wu xia...

Lol. Go figure, we don't like characters we enjoy being reduced to nothing but the color of their skin in order to make some sort of bizarre, pseudo-enlightened, 'woke' political statement. Jax, the character, could have done any number of things with the ability to go back in time, but NRS decided that, because he's black, he should go back and stop black slavery, despite literally 0% of his character being attributed to that AT ALL, and Mortal Kombat as a series not even referencing it once.

It comes so far out of left-field that it's completely jarring and just comes off as pandering and gross. You being black doesn't change the fact that this was lazily-written trite.

 

[LegendOfKage]

The bolded...

Given that European colonialism and the Transatlantic Slave Trade has made Africa what it is today (mind you, a continent that's larger than North America, most of Europe and other countries COMBINED), I think you're not giving the entire continent NOR it's people enough credit.

Not to mention I don't think you have a good idea of what pre-colonial Africa was like ... It was not much different than Europe.

But the continent wasn't given a chance to be left alone unmolested. Why NOT have just traded with them? Treated them as equals?

So ONE. SINGLE. ENDING. is enough for some of y'all to not buy the game?

Fascinating!

And I'm tired of discussing race on this board and the history of African Americans ... No one listens because what do I know about being black despite BEING black, having a black Family, black friends, black neighborhood, black experience...


Lemme cool down. Wu xia...

You may have a good point about pre-colonialism Africa, but at the same time, I don't really know that history either.

Personally, if I were to skip the game, it wouldn't be because of this ending. I find the idea of "women who would choose to wear this sort of thing are disrespecting themselves" to be the objectionable thing here, and the same goes for the shaming of men who find those character designs attractive.

However, earlier in the thread I wrote:

Perhaps the world has white people, it's just that they're separated from black people? But either way, it's a "we need a one race nation" or "we need racial separation" ending, isn't it?

It's funny how alike some "woke" liberals and literal white supremacists think about these matters.

Sorry a lot of people are making this so "us vs them" as far as the message of the ending goes, but I would like to hear what you think. Do you think the ending suggests separation of races or a single race world? And why would either be thought of as the "good" version of the world?

Wouldn't the good version just be a world where people were socially discouraged from judging each other or making assumptions about one another based on their race?

 

[Ariesfirebomb]

I’m not surprised at all that this forum is making a mountain out of a molehill. It’s not even a canon ending.

Who knew a wakanda-Esque world would trigger so many snowflakes

 

[Da-Kid]

Conservatives biggest weapon. Whataboutism.

 

[DeafTourette]

Wait, he goes back in time and stops slavery?

But what slavery, just the white on african one, or the previous african on whites, other blacks, and everybody else in between?

Funny how some people still think slavery was invented 300 years ago.



Some day you should stop blaming the white man for everything.

Remember Japan? They were destroyed and colonized after WWII, and yet they have rised to be one of the most prosperous countries in the world. Russia on the other hand, while being much bigger than the entire continent of Europe, has become shit. Every continent and every country has been molested, because that's how the world works. But if you are capable, you are going to rise, no matter what.

Africa is fucked up and the only ones to blame are the africans for being incredibly incompetent and/or corrupt.

Here we go again.

Look at my post history. Never ONCE did I "blame white people for everything".

I meant what I said and you obviously didn't understand it if that's what you got out of it.

I'm not even going to address the rest of your reply right now. I have work tomorrow. So I'm it cutting it here.

 

[Hobo Box]

I’m not surprised at all that this forum is making a mountain out of a molehill. It’s not even a canon ending.

Who knew a wakanda-Esque world would trigger so many snowflakes

We just want this shit out of our games. Not 'black people', or 'women' or any of that shit, we want politics out. Gone.
"I'm not waiting a century for people to get woke" is not a line I needed to hear from my dumb fighting game about ripping people's spines out.

It could have been Johnny Cage giving an impassioned speech about 'All Lives Matter' with an 'It's OK to be white' sign in his hand, and I still would've wanted it out. This shit has no place in Mortal Kombat.

 

[LegendOfKage]

Conservatives biggest weapon. Whataboutism.

There is no such thing as "whataboutism," as long as you either:

Condemn both examples, defend both examples, or make an argument as to why someone is being hypocritical. If you actually care to have a discussion, though, feel free to respond to my other post on this thread, just two posts above yours.

 

[Screamer-RSA]

Gotta love back handed slights at white people... The guilt is not working leftists.

Not working at all, just laugh at their ignorance. They should come live in Afica. Where they can sing with their comrades “ kill white people” , where they kill babies by throwing them against walls. Where they torture old people by drilling into their arms and legs with power drills. Where they highjack couples and make the guy watch while they rape his wife/girlfriend. Where the black government steal so much that the national power grid stops being able to provide power to the country because no money was legt for maintenance.

 

[Radical Dreamer]

Spoiler: I'm an idiot. Spoiler, obviously.

She obliterates herself from existence to go back in time and save Jax from ever dying and becoming a Revenant in MK9. He goes on to continue to serve and save thousands, not haunted by what he did under Quan Chi's control, but he never meets his wife and never has Jacqui as a result

Damn, kinda sad

 

[Majukun]

I've asked this before, I will ask it again. Does the ending takes place in Africa, or not? Because his two sentences of "living the American dream" and of course "I won't wait for people to get woke" do not refer to Africa.

everything points to a yes, since if you eliminate deportation due to slavery, that's where 'his people' would live.

 

[Geki-D]

Spoiler: I'm an idiot. Spoiler, obviously.

She obliterates herself from existence to go back in time and save Jax from ever dying and becoming a Revenant in MK9. He goes on to continue to serve and save thousands, not haunted by what he did under Quan Chi's control, but he never meets his wife and never has Jacqui as a result

What?! She goes back to save the black guy?! Why didn't she go and save a white guy? Why not Liu Kang? This is racism against asians!! Damn SJW pandering, of course she goes to save the only other black character to score SJW points!

/s

No, it's a terrible idea. As he himself says, it took multiple tries just to get his wife and kid back. He literally killed 8 billion people in his existing timeline to get 3 people in a new timeline.

My ancestors have been fucked over in history too. That doesn't mean I think killing the world for some sort of revenge porn fantasy is a good idea.

Please, let us overthink this 2 mins static image slideshow that's not canon and is but one ending in a game where each character has their own.

The mental gymnastics people are doing to make this insignificant, crappy ending a big deal is just stunning.

 

[McCheese]

Kitanas new ending is her going back in time to kill the man who invented yoga pants.

 

[Hobo Box]

The mental gymnastics people are doing to make this insignificant, crappy ending a big deal is just stunning.

I think you're overblowing just how upset people are about it to try to trivialize the problem, and also confusing what the primary issue is.

I'm not only miffed about this because it's just shitty writing (which it is, by all counts), I'm miffed because the writers felt obligated to make some weird, poorly-thought-out political statement that doesn't even make sense in the context of time travel.
The fucked-up part is they understand the ramifications of messing with timelines, as shown in Jacqui's ending (a far better ending btw).

"Knocking it out of the park" on Jax's part is impossible. Stopping slavery and the export of black slaves as a whole changes so much about history there is no fucking way Jax or his wife are ever born, and there's also no fucking way they manage to meet up and have Jacqui. Even if he did succeed in this, most if not all of the white people he worked with, fought with and watched die for their country never existed, because America is fundamentally different now that a massive portion of its history has been rewritten.

The ending is trash for multiple reasons, and calling it 'mental gymnastics' to get upset by what is a simple lack of effort on the writers' part and blatant pandering at the expense of a beloved character, is kind of giving the devs a free pass, simply because you don't want to talk about the problem.

 

[Dacon]

The mental gymnastics people jump through here to diminish what people feel about this is what's really impressive here. Just cause you don't think something is important or don't like how someone feels about it doesn't somehow give you some kind of highground here. It just looks rude and childish imo.

 

[Viliger]

The problems with easy (as in they undo the objective wrong) shit like that is that you can't really criticize it without being called racists or downright fascist. Completely out of character move, only to be welcomed with open arms because slavery is bad.

 

[Geki-D]

I think you're overblowing just how upset people are about it to try to trivialize the problem, and also confusing what the primary issue is.

I'm not only miffed about this because it's just shitty writing (which it is, by all counts), I'm miffed because the writers felt obligated to make some weird, poorly-thought-out political statement that doesn't even make sense in the context of time travel.
The fucked-up part is they understand the ramifications of messing with timelines, as shown in Jacqui's ending (a far better ending btw).

"Knocking it out of the park" on Jax's part is impossible. Stopping slavery and the export of black slaves as a whole changes so much about history there is no fucking way Jax or his wife are ever born, and there's also no fucking way they manage to meet up and have Jacqui. Even if he did succeed in this, most if not all of the white people he worked with, fought with and watched die for their country never existed, because America is fundamentally different now that a massive portion of its history has been rewritten.

The ending is trash for multiple reasons, and calling it 'mental gymnastics' to get upset by what is a simple lack of effort on the writers' part and blatant pandering at the expense of a beloved character, is kind of giving the devs a free pass, simply because you don't want to talk about the problem.

The fact anyone can be "upset" about a shitty, tacked on non-canon ending to an arcade mode is just silly. If this is making you "upset" you seriously need to reevaluate your priorities in game storytelling. I'd understand if this was the official ending, if it was how the MK series was now but it's not. No one should give a fuck about this and people only do because "TEH ES-JAY-DLB U's!!!" and not because of the deep flaws it had in respecting time travel etiquette. That is proven more than enough times in this thread. But hey, I'll hold you to this; Every other ending better be perfectly logical in the context of what should and shouldn't be possible with time travel or I expect to see you making breakdowns of those too.

The mental gymnastics people jump through here to diminish what people feel about this is what's really impressive here. Just cause you don't think something is important or don't like how someone feels about it doesn't somehow give you some kind of highground here. It just looks rude and childish imo.

Your hurt feelings are wasted on such a trivial thing. I'm not even saying this in a "Video games don't matter" kind of way. I'll get pissed too at a game being ruined by shitty writing but when it's a non-canon, no context ending to an optional mode, I just don't care.

Does this arcade tower even have any other cutscenes in it besides the ending? How many of you story purists complaining about the ending are also moaning about the utter lack of context for why these characters are even fighting up a tower of opponents in the first place?

The problems with easy (as in they undo the objective wrong) shit like that is that you can't really criticize it without being called racists or downright fascist. Completely out of character move, only to be welcomed with open arms because slavery is bad.

Read the OP and most of the posts in this thread that hate the ending; It has nothing to do with good writing and everything to do with outrage.

 

[Majukun]

We just want this shit out of our games. Not 'black people', or 'women' or any of that shit, we want politics out. Gone.
"I'm not waiting a century for people to get woke" is not a line I needed to hear from my dumb fighting game about ripping people's spines out.

It could have been Johnny Cage giving an impassioned speech about 'All Lives Matter' with an 'It's OK to be white' sign in his hand, and I still would've wanted it out. This shit has no place in Mortal Kombat.

But developers are entitled to put whatever they want in the work... I don't agree with the idea that 'everything is political', mantra really dear in some other places on the internet, but if a developer wants to make a political statement who are we to tell him not to do it? They put put money and effort in creating something, they deserve to mold it as they please.

Of course you are free to not buy a videogame with politics on it, it's your money, but I really don't see what the big deal is even if even if the message doesn't coincide with your views

 

[Hobo Box]

But developers are entitled to put whatever they want in the work... I don't agree with the idea that 'everything is political', mantra really dear in some other places on the internet, but if a developer wants to make a political statement who are we to tell him not to do it? They put put money and effort in creating something, they deserve to mold it as they please.

Of course you are free to not buy a videogame with politics on it, it's your money, but I really don't see what the big deal is even if even if the message doesn't coincide with your views

I would accept this if the 'political message' they were sending wasn't so bloody trite. "Slavery is bad" is not even a statement worth making; of course it's bad, nobody you could ask would say it isn't. So why did they have to torpedo Jax's character to make it?

No one should give a fuck about this and people only do because "TEH ES-JAY-DLB U's!!!" and not because of the deep flaws it had in respecting time travel etiquette. That is proven more than enough times in this thread. But hey, I'll hold you to this; Every other ending better be perfectly logical in the context of what should and shouldn't be possible with time travel or I expect to see you making breakdowns of those too.

Except I'm probably not going to, because if they violate some sort of rule of time-traveling in another character's ending it likely won't be to make some sort of bizarre political statement that goes against the character's core values. Of course Social Justice culture has something to do with it; that doesn't mean people are being disingenuous when they point out legitimate problems in the plot. You're discrediting other points people are making and saying they only care about the, as you say, "ES-JAY-DLB U's" but you're not providing any basis for that assumption other than the fact that you find their arguments and the entire subject to be 'trivial'.

The fact that the ending is non-canon has little bearing on the fact that it's still Jax's character making a decision to do something that's completely out-of-character for him, or at least, something that the last 27 years of Mortal Kombat have never even once alluded to being important to him. The events and results of the ending are non-canon, yes, but the implications for Jax's character are still there.

Maybe if you find this discussion so ridiculous and trivial, you could simply choose not to participate, instead of hanging around and acting superior, like you're somehow above us even though you keep coming back?

 

[zeroFiveNine]

Not sure why MK needed to go in this direction, the fiction and world are strong enough to hold their own without real world references like this.

 

[Geki-D]

You're discrediting other points people are making and saying they only care about the, as you say, "ES-JAY-DLB U's" but you're not providing any basis for that assumption other than the fact that you find their arguments and the entire subject to be 'trivial'.

I've provided plenty of basis to that throughout the thread and it's on display for all to see. You literally say in your own post that it's the political message that bothers you. Then you say:

I would accept this if the 'political message' they were sending wasn't so bloody trite.

What? You accept devs have the right to put political messages in their games, but not THIS political message. So trite, not even worth it. (Not allowed to say it). Do you even read what you post?

The fact that the ending is non-canon has little bearing on the fact that it's still Jax's character making a decision to do something that's completely out-of-character for him, or at least, something that the last 27 years of Mortal Kombat have never even once alluded to being important to him. The events and results of the ending are non-canon, yes, but the implications for Jax's character are still there.

So the implication is that Jax doesn't like slavery and given the chance would set it right? What part of Jax's character in the past games suggests he's A-ok with past injustices so long as he and his family are well-off and wouldn't want to create a world that's "better for everyone", which he says is the end result?

Maybe if you find this discussion so ridiculous and trivial, you could simply choose not to participate, instead of hanging around and acting superior, like you're somehow above us even though you keep coming back?

What a load of dismissive bullshit.
This is just a way to say "your opinion isn't welcome, please leave". How about no? I'll say what I like, respond to who I like. How about you put me on ignore if my opinion offends you so much? Do you even know what "conversation" & "debate" means? This is no different than hand waving away a question with "I don't have to educate you". Ridiculous.

 

[Dacon]

What a load of dismissive bullshit.
This is just a way to say "your opinion isn't welcome, please leave". How about no? I'll say what I like, respond to who I like. How about you put me on ignore if my opinion offends you so much? Do you even know what "conversation" & "debate" means? This is no different than hand waving away a question with "I don't have to educate you". Ridiculous.

That's insanely hypocritical when you've been dismissing people's opinions this entire time.


How about you ignore the thread if people feeling this way triggers you so much?

 

[Hobo Box]

What a load of dismissive bullshit.
This is just a way to say "your opinion isn't welcome, please leave". How about no? I'll say what I like, respond to who I like. How about you put me on ignore if my opinion offends you so much? Do you even know what "conversation" & "debate" means? This is no different than hand waving away a question with "I don't have to educate you". Ridiculous.

Lol. No, that's not the same thing at all. Now who's being sensitive?
You've said multiple times in this thread that this discussion isn't worth having, that people shouldn't be getting upset, that it's not a problem, blah blah blah. If you're so convinced that discussion is not needed, then just see yourself out. You're not providing anything by simply saying "this is dumb".
Telling people they shouldn't care not only doesn't change the fact that they do, it removes any and all incentive to debate you because it's directly admitting that you yourself don't care.

I'm not dismissing you, I'm actively wondering why you're sticking around if you "don't care" so much.