Joe Rogan Podcast with Steven Crowder

[Calderc]

Ooooooh boy, this is a good one.

Rogan goes fucking IN on known shit heel Steven Crowder here. With both of them drinking, it doesn't take too long for it get heated, with Crowder accusing Rogan and his producer Jamie of bullying and ganging up on him, with Rogan getting especially heated during the weed debate.

It goes so deep that Crowder actually ends up missing his flight. And it's sooo sayisfying to see him constantly pulled up on his shit.

There's some jovial tobacco/MMA chat for maybe 45 mins/an hour before they get onto the start of this beautiful trainwreck.

https://youtu.be/LKSTg9CgQq8

 

[PillarEN]

Go after this old Arthur cartoon character turned douche.

 

[milkham]

any TLDR on Steven Crowder? no idea who he is

 

[PillarEN]

any TLDR on Steven Crowder? no idea who he is

A hateful man

https://www.facebook.com/stevencrowderofficial/

 

[wandering]

Huh, I was under the impression Rogan was pretty sympathetic to the alt right

 

[reKon]

any TLDR on Steven Crowder? no idea who he is

he's a piece of shit

 

[Calderc]

Huh, I was under the impression Rogan was pretty sympathetic to the alt right

GAF likes to make out like that is so, but it isn't.

 

[Sub_Level]

Huh, I was under the impression Rogan was pretty sympathetic to the alt right

Joe Rogan will have literally anyone on his show. But he himself is fairly liberal. He's a left wing guy. He just hates what he perceives as social justice warriors on the left. Now if you think he is full of shit for holding that disposition that is fair enough, but a right winger he is not.

 

[ffejeromdiks]

Huh, I was under the impression Rogan was pretty sympathetic to the alt right

GAF likes to accuse anyone who doesn't strictly adhere to the liberal playbook an alt right sympathizer. Rogan has been left for at least a decade.

 

[Tater Tot]

chrowder missed his flight because of his shit arguing over weed

powerful young jamie doing the double tag team

when jaimie says "well its not louderwithchowder.com" as the source was hilarious

I though rogan was about to rear naked chocke the dude

 

[Extollere]

Huh, I was under the impression Rogan was pretty sympathetic to the alt right

Rogan has some terrible opinions and has definitely said some stupid dumb shit, but I don't think it's that easy to align him with the alt-right or any political affiliation for that matter. More than anything Rogan is responsible for providing a platform for shitty people to spout nonsense unchallenged since Rogan just wants to smoke weed and "have a chat". It did really piss me off to hear him say Alex Jones is a great guy just because he makes him laugh. Fuck off.

 

[elektrocats]

Can I get some timestamps for some outrageous moments from this?

I'm gonna listen to it tomorrow but I wanna see what I'm getting into here lol

 

[Riposte]

Don't get an argument about weed with Rogan. Could've salvaged it if he abruptly changed the subject to the moon landing.

 

[LeroyPantwether]

Huh, I was under the impression Rogan was pretty sympathetic to the alt right

What gave you that impression ? Honestly, having listened to his podcast I'm not sure how anyone could come to the conclusion that he's "alt right"

 

[JesseEwiak]

Joe Rogan will have literally anyone on his show. But he himself is fairly liberal. He's a left wing guy. He just hates what he perceives as social justice warriors on the left. Now if you think he is full of shit for holding that disposition that is fair enough, but a right winger he is not.

Eh, Rogan strikes me as a 'brogressive' - ie. OK with gay marriagr, weed, etc, but turns right when anything that might actually negatively affect him as a straight white dude comes up - thus his hate for SJW's.

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

any TLDR on Steven Crowder? no idea who he is

A Nazi.

 

[Rentahamster]

Skipping around a bit, it seems like they're on pretty good terms by then end.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

He came in to the dojo and challenged Weed Master Rogan.

 

[gfxtwin]

The backlash against JoRo is interesting to me. He's a left-leaning libertarian, but he's outspoken against left-wing feminists because he perceives he's branded as toxic by them, and he's right to a point. But he's too kind and intelligent and has too much heart to be toxic, he just happens to be a hypermasculine guy. But that's really him, not a front - he really is a mixed martial artists who is a badass, a hunter, and someone who in general goes hard at everything he does.

Masculinity isn't toxic if 1) it's genuinely a part of who you are and 2) you're not a dick. It's never toxic to be yourself, especially if you're sincerely warm-hearted like Rogan.

It baffles me the hate he gets just because he has lunatics on his show. His job on the podcast, to a large degree, is to be interesting and those dudes are just that. And arguably entertaining and funny, even if you personally wouldn't want to be in a room with them. Notice how Rogan tends to poke fun at them when they're on his show. He picked Milo's brain until nothing was left but the truth that as an entity he's a total contradiction, a walking joke, and Alex's appearance was like a sideshow. He's not endorsing them, he just finds them amusing.

He also has BLM activists like W. Kamau Bell on the show (who mentioned on social media he basically found JoRo to be endearing), makes fun of Trump, expressed that he wanted to vote for Bernie Sanders, etc.

You might be put off by his machoness and his disagreements with the feminist aspect of social justice, and that's a legit point IMO. And you might not think he's funny (TBH I don't even care a bit for his stand-up and have only listened to his podcasts, and of those podcasts, just the episodes with comics, artists, journalists, scientists, etc - none of the UFC or hunting stuff), but he's clearly a kind person and he's complicated, so I don't see how it's productive to put him in a box and throw him in the social dumpster because of one small aspect of his personality you dislike.

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

Huh, I was under the impression Rogan was pretty sympathetic to the alt right

Not surprising since a lot people from the left think you're alt right or a POS if you don't align 100% with their beliefs lol

I don't know much about the Crowder dude other than some vids a fb friend of mine constantly spouts. Might give this a listen at work tomorrow.

 

[gfxtwin]

What gave you that impression ? Honestly, having listened to his podcast I'm not sure how anyone could come to the conclusion that he's "alt right"

The problem is that the Alt Right love him, mainly just for his beef with feminism. His messageboards are a shitshow. But to be fair he's denounced the Alt Right and his toxic messageboard multiple times.

 

[Count Dookkake]

It amazes me that people perceive Rogan as some alt-right guy. He seems like a genuinely well-meaning, and even nice, person. Occasionally he says something I don't agree with, but he is more than willing to admit that he is no expert on subjects of which he is in fact not an expert. He is clearly capable of learning and of self-correcting. It's a shame that SJWs are only interested in robotically preaching to the choir. It's stupid and ultimately weakens the cause.

 

[NexusCell]

Huh, I was under the impression Rogan was pretty sympathetic to the alt right

Some more outspoken GAF members tend to give that label to people that don't agree with their views 100%, even if they can agree on 90% of issues.

 

[JesseEwiak]

The problem is that the Alt Right love him, mainly just for his beef with feminism. His messageboards are a shitshow. But to be fair he's denounced the Alt Right and his toxic messageboard multiple times.

I would argue that if your beliefs keep on repeatedly getting cheered on by alt-righters, maybe you should look at yourself and your own views and question why alt righters agree with you.

 

[dr3upmushroom]

This guy's attempt to be some pseudo-intellectual is amusing, can't even be angry at this doorknob.

 

[Erevador]

Huh, I was under the impression Rogan was pretty sympathetic to the alt right

GAF can't seem to understand the different between anti-PC and supporters of the alt-right.

Many comedians and almost all young males are anti-PC, whether they are right wingers, left wingers, or anything in between. Very few are actually supporters of the alt-right.

Even Milo's fanbase is mostly made up of people who think he's absurd, but enjoy seeing how much he annoys people they think are worth annoying.

We're in a culture war that most people don't have a firm handle on.

 

[gfxtwin]

I would argue that if your beliefs keep on repeatedly getting cheered on by alt-righters, maybe you should look at yourself and your own views and question why alt righters agree with you.

There is some truth to that, sure, but also keep in mind that artists only have so much control over how their work gets interpreted or misinterpreted. Charles Manson was a huge Beatles fan, lots of sick people watch American Psycho to laugh with Bateman's cruelty instead of at his patheticness, tons of Fight Club fans think Tyler Durden is a guy with lots of important and great ideas, many Tool fans have the same qualities that get mocked and fucked off in their songs, etc. Alt righters in particular have a tendency to pervert art and entertainment that was not made with their interests in mind, The Matrix for example.

 

[zaccheus]

Some more outspoken GAF members tend to give that label to people that don't agree with their views 100%, even if they can agree on 90% of issues.

The bannings of people who don't agree with the consensus, the shaming of people who vote a certain way, the tar and feathering of celebrities that don't adhere to every bullet point of their views is something that really saddens me about this place. I know I'm probably expecting too much from a gaming forum, but my facebook feed and some of the vitriol that comes from gaf has made me believe that extremism really comes in all shades.

 

[SubScorpianZero]

IMO as a smoker, general Rogan fan, and not knowing this Crowder douche beforehand...

Rogan did not exactly win that argument with substance.

The actual concerns he brought up about weed weren't wrong.

Mainly, if we culturally treat it like it's so harmless, it will have a negative impact on the youth, since it does still affect brain development well into the early 20s.

Should that be enough to make it illegal? No.

 

[gfxtwin]

The bannings of people who don't agree with the consensus, the shaming of people who vote a certain way, the tar and feathering of celebrities that don't adhere to every bullet point of their views is something that really saddens me about this place. I know I'm probably expecting too much from a gaming forum, but my facebook feed and some of the vitriol that comes from gaf has made me believe that extremism really comes in all shades.

Eh, maybe, but many (maybe most) of those getting banned that I've noticed are also harassing other posters and clearly behaving in blatantly and/or covertly toxic ways.

 

[Mega]

I would argue that if your beliefs keep on repeatedly getting cheered on by alt-righters, maybe you should look at yourself and your own views and question why alt righters agree with you.

Many who are labeled "alt-right" have none of the defining characteristics of that group: white nationalism, Neo-Nazi beliefs, MAGA mentality, etc. By large they are anti-PC moderates and liberals who voted Sanders or even Hillary, but they happen to be at odds with people who skew further to the left.

 

[Ridisc]

Eh, maybe, but many (maybe most) of those getting banned that I've noticed are also harassing other posters and clearly behaving in blatantly and/or covertly toxic ways.

I see people on here advocating outright violence time and time again, the same posters, slip by and get agreed with.

And its getting worse frankly, I am glad that there are others who have noticed this in this thread.

 

[Erevador]

I see people on here advocating outright violence time and time again, the same posters, slip by and get agreed with.

And its getting worse frankly, I am glad that there are others who have noticed this in this thread.

It started before the election in the thread about Trump supporters being assaulted at a rally in San Diego. There were numerous posts that explicitly defended and encouraged the use of political violence.

It is still happening, and it is awful.

 

[Foffy]

This guy's attempt to be some pseudo-intellectual is amusing, can't even be angry at this doorknob.

Rogan or Crowder?

I give Rogan credit, because he at least invites intellectuals on his podcast to help educate him and the audience.

Brian Cox and especially Sam Harris are perfect cases of this.

 

[NoblesseOblige]

Huh, I was under the impression Rogan was pretty sympathetic to the alt right

He doesn't sympathize with the alt-right as much as he is an idiot that is susceptible to conspiracy BS nonsense if it comes from a charming or funny enough person. In other words he is just really dumb.

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

Rogan agrees with him on everything and they have lots of laughs. Rogan calls Crowder his friend.

Until the guy brings up pot. Then, and only then, Rogan is outraged.

So if Crowder is an alt-right shithead, Rogan is a guy who, at the very least, thoroughly enjoys his time with alt-right shitheads. Until they bring up pot.

 

[Tetra-9]

GAF likes to make out like that is so, but it isn't.

Truth. He agrees with both sides on different ideas.

 

[Count Dookkake]

Rogan agrees with him on everything and they have lots of laughs. Rogan calls Crowder his friend.

Until the guy brings up pot. Then, and only then, Rogan is outraged.

So if Crowder is an alt-right shithead, Rogan is a guy who, at the very least, thoroughly enjoys his time with alt-right shitheads. Until they bring up pot.

This is a gross misrepresentation ignoring the repeated times that Rogan states that he leans left and when he points out that Crowder is generalizing and lying about the left.

 

[zaccheus]

Many who are labeled "alt-right" have none of the defining characteristics of that group: white nationalism, Neo-Nazi beliefs, MAGA mentality, etc. By large they are anti-PC moderates and liberals who voted Sanders or even Hillary, but they happen to be at odds with people who skew further to the left.

Correct. I think the actually Alt-Right people who believe in Nazism, antisemitism, anti immigration is a pretty small group. isn't nearly as powerful of a coalition as people make them out to be. They're largely a bunch of internet trolls who saw the trump vs hillary as a proxy war for their hatred for SJWs.

 

[UrbanRats]

This is a gross misrepresentation ignoring the repeated times that Rogan states that he leans left and when he points out that Crowder is generalizing and lying about the left.

Yeah, i haven't even gotten to the pot part, and dude already was made to look like a clown, having to back pedal on several points.

Anyway, i had to shut down the video when he (Crowder) kept ranting about CEOs wages and minimum wages in relation to "arbitrary numbers".
Ensuring someone the standards to live in decency by making sure some other person can't amass an infinite (and pointless) pile of millions, isn't arbitrary.

 

[nilbog21]

Rogan agrees with him on everything and they have lots of laughs. Rogan calls Crowder his friend.

Until the guy brings up pot. Then, and only then, Rogan is outraged.

So if Crowder is an alt-right shithead, Rogan is a guy who, at the very least, thoroughly enjoys his time with alt-right shitheads. Until they bring up pot.

Lmao. Try harder dude

 

[Raonak]

Wow that steven crowder dude sounds like a tool based on his facebook page.

Will give a listen

 

[EarsOfASnake]

The bannings of people who don't agree with the consensus, the shaming of people who vote a certain way, the tar and feathering of celebrities that don't adhere to every bullet point of their views is something that really saddens me about this place. I know I'm probably expecting too much from a gaming forum, but my facebook feed and some of the vitriol that comes from gaf has made me believe that extremism really comes in all shades.

You let me know when you find somewhere that doesn't behave like this.

 

[Zvonimir Boban]

Huh, I was under the impression Rogan was pretty sympathetic to the alt right

He's not right wing, he's just a fucking idiot.

 

[Timedog]

Joe Rogan will have literally anyone on his show. But he himself is fairly liberal. He's a left wing guy. He just hates what he perceives as social justice warriors on the left. Now if you think he is full of shit for holding that disposition that is fair enough, but a right winger he is not.

He's centrist, I think. He seems to shift left or right depending on what guest he has on.

 

[Kusagari]

Rogan just comes off to me as a guy that will agree with a guest on anything unless they attack one of his pet issues (pot).

 

[entremet]

Rogan just comes off to me as a guy that will agree with a guest on anything unless they attack one of his pet issues (pot).

He doesn't really agree with everything.

There's just a vociferous subset on the left that believes that anyone not in lockstep is sympathetic to the most toxic views.

It's a kind of strange McCarthyism that has sprung up of late.

Joe Rogan having guests with disparate views is the point of his podcast. It's called the Joe Rogan Experience for that reason. It follows his curiousities.

 

[Dopus]

Rogan just comes off to me as a guy that will agree with a guest on anything unless they attack one of his pet issues (pot).

That's not true at all.

 

[ponpo]

A Nazi.

Isnt he Jewish

 

[Syder]

Rogan just comes off to me as a guy that will agree with a guest on anything unless they attack one of his pet issues (pot).

Joe Rogan has agreed with pretty much either side of every argument on every topic in his time podcasting. It's a technique to get guests comfortable but sometimes it makes him look stupid.