You won't regret itI don't think it's going to get significantly cheaper in the near future though since it's already 75% off at Amazon. And if you get the Plentiful Package, you're getting an insane deal even if you only play CK2 and Magicka (both Steam versions btw).
I'm not waiting for it to be cheaper. You see, I have 100+ unplayed/barely played games on Steam, including Total War: Shogun 2 and Civ V. I'm a bad human (._.)
I have Civ V as well... but also Civ IV, Rome Total War, Medieval 2 Total War, Europa Universalis 3, Alpha Centauri, Gratuitous Space Battles, King Arthur... and those are just the strategy games I actually plan to playI just stopped caring about that stuff to avoid going crazy.
Ooh, better check the system requirements before I buy that one then
Ledsen, what is the main difference between EU3 and CK2?
Not really advantages or disadvantages, more like jsut differences
Crusader Kings II:
You play as a character (count at the lowest, emperor at the highest)
You 'goal' is to increase the prestige of your dynasty.
Tech advancement (AFAIK) doesn't depend on your size or how much money you put into it (since you don't put any money into it).
Economics are much simpler, you don't deal with trade. Your money comes from your demense + your vassals (depending on your laws and their opinion of you.)
There is no inflation
There are no standing armies, everything is levy based.
The map is smaller than EUIII (Europe, North Africa, Middle East)
No naval combat.
Royal marriages actually require you to have available children (and dynasty members in your court).
No explicitly Stability, it's more like replaced by individual vassal loyalty.
EUIII:
Much more focused on the State:
Your 'goal' is to increase the prestige of the state
You have five categories in which you pour money into to research.
Your money comes from tax of the State + tax on vassal states (if you have any) + trade. Money is based on tax efficiency, production efficiency, and trade efficiency.
If you mint, you'll get inflation, which slows your tech progress down.
There are standing armies and you pay maintenance on them. The maintenance level affects morale.
Royal marriages increase legitimacy/prestige (I think?) and they're limitless (besides diplomats.)
Certain actions require certain people availability (diplo requires diplomats, trade stuff requires merchants, building stuff requires.... i forget what they're called)?
This is what I think of off the top of my head.
In EUIII, the main challenge comes from managing the State. In CK2, the main challenge is managing your vassal relationships (and relationships to foreign leaders, also your marriages with regards to claims.)
EDIT: One more thing about tech advancement in CK2, it's much more out of your country, besides the use of spies to steal tech and being able to use your court to speed up research by 100%. It's much more fluid in the way it spreads. Unforunately, I don't really understand tech that much in CK2.
Europa Universalis can be boiled down to a complex game of Risk (with some elements of games like Axis & Allies).
While Crusader Kings shares some elements with a game like Risk or EU it's a character focused game about different dynasties(families) so it's more about intrigue, building relationships, building the prestige of your family than it is about straight up conquering.
If you have played a Paradox strategy game before Zoku's post will give you a bit more detail about specific differences.
Ledsen, what is the main difference between EU3 and CK2?
Is Civilization V good?I haven't played a Civ game since the 2nd.
Wait for the Steam sale. It's about a month away and some of the games listed in the OP like the Witcher will probably go on sale.
Since you mentioned liking rpgs and strategy games. Here's some to look out for during the sale.
Drakensang
King's Bounty
Torchlight
Divinity II
Vampire the Masquerade
Titan Quest + Immortal Throne
Risen
Legend of Grimrock
Ys: The Oath of Felghana
Just don't go out and buy a million games at once. Make a very short list and go though one game every so often. You'll find some people trying to push you to develop a mythic steam backlog but buying games you're not going to play makes you stupid.
Just don't go out and buy a million games at once. Make a very short list and go though one game every so often. You'll find some people trying to push you to develop a mythic steam backlog but buying games you're not going to play makes you stupid. A few off the top of my head include Civ4, Sacred 2, even Skyrim has fairly strong RPG elements.
alright, breakin down what I consider must-play recent PC exclusives available on Steam:
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This.
Don't be like us, there's still time for you.
yeah... somebody actually postd Total War.I can't be the only one curious about this laptop's specs. Post a link!
I just got a gaming PC this year after being out since about Roller Coaster Tycoon II so this thread is super helpful, only thing I don't understand is why people say Steam makes their wallets hurt? My wallet has never been so happy since getting a gaming PC, everything is so fucking affordable
That's the problem: everything is affordable. Ergo, you buy everything like a shameless animal and play nothing (._.)
I just got a gaming PC this year after being out since about Roller Coaster Tycoon II so this thread is super helpful, only thing I don't understand is why people say Steam makes their wallets hurt? My wallet has never been so happy since getting a gaming PC, everything is so fucking affordable
That's what I'm worried about, I do buy a lot but I'm still saving a ton in comparison but the backlog is growing far too quickly
Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines is one of the most important RPGs of the past 10 years, and it's PC exclusive.