I was so excited about this game on release and did have a lot of fun with it, but I can't believe it's in the state it's in now. It performance issues at launch and it's seemed like they've only gotten worse. Just terrible for a game about pure chaos and fun.
Did they ever even release the season pass content?
IIRC the game sold pretty well, nothing amazing but far better than most games. Steamspy suggest around 680K+ copies on PC alone. Probably around 2 million across consoles and PC. That is nothing to sneeze at. I think the general public is not bothered by performance issues to the same extent as folks on GAF.
It was not ideal but it was playable... hell I enjoyed it at launch. I sold my physical copy and then a couple months later when a sale hit digitally I dove in. I had no idea about this patch.. it is something I do not remember happening where the game was destroyed by a patch and never fixed.
So it was playable originally on X1... most certainly it was. Now it is just a total shame.
I remember having 5 minute long load times when retrying a challenge on PS4. Haven't played much more of it since.
There was a thread similar to this one a while back where a lot of players mentioned that the game got a lot worse and than a bit better after some patches. I guess the newest patch (for the dlc is assume) makes it worse again?
How does it play unpatched and offline? sure I guess you don't have leaderboards and such, but the base game content is all fine and good, yeah? I remember hearing issues having to do with game pinging the server, what was that about?
That's what people need to start asking them the instant they announce their next game. Not just about the technical issues, but the lack of response and refunds from the dev/publisher. Of course, that won't happen, since game journalists don't have any balls.
What's even sillier is that Avalanche, more than most other developers, benefited from strong word of mouth based on Just Cause 2. I convinced several people to buy either Just Cause 2 or Just Cause 3 based on how good JC2 was.
Next time, I won't be doing that. I'll be doing the exact opposite - warning people away from buying any future Avalanche games because of this kind of shitshow.
They may think that ignoring this and concentrating on their next project is a good idea. I think it will instead doom them.
If they're not going to patch the game to fix performance issues this bad, they're not going to patch the game to take advantage of Neo (and I assume Scorpio) hardware, which is required for older games.
That's amazing - maybe they had a magic PS4 they'd played it on where they were getting a solid 30fps with these patches...crazy.
Also for people seeing that video and saying that this kind of bug is rare, last three times I've played the game it has hard crashed to PS4 error screen and I've lost whatever progress I made since the last time I saved, someone somewhere in that company pressed all the wrong buttons when they wrote these patches, like, shit is on fire over there.
Digital Foundry made some noise when the game came out, but somehow no one mentions that with the current patch the performance is worse than it ever was. The previous state while far from decent was at least playable, now it's like playing in slow motion when there is action and I have the feeling it's gonna stay like this.
Except that the game has changed its state from launch where it was a little janky to full blown broken after these patches. It's already been helpful in this thread for one guy who hasn't bought the game. If everybody is quiet about it what good does that do - also we're on a discussion forum so we're discussing.
The devs even said that you need 16 gigs of RAM on PC for it to not be an unplayable mess, but didn't bother changing the system requirements. I don't think they've said a word about fixing the game in like half a year.
At least Arkham Knight got some fixing before they sold DLC for it.
Every chance I have, I discourage people from buying the console versions of this broken piece of garbage game.
I still can't believe that people were waiting months for a performance patch and when it finally came, it completely broke the game performance-wise instead, then Avalanche released DLC and have been quiet since.
Where did I say that? I simply said we already know it's busted; I don't see how you managed to twist that into it being the consumer's fault. It's a simple case of voting with your wallet.
We're on GAF-I would have thought most people either research their games before buying or if they buy on a whim they did it for a reason that would make them overlook things like graphics/frame rate (like big fans of the series).
OT - Anything coming out of Avalanche's studios should not get a free pass from now on; they have lost any faith that they have built up over the years.
I know that different teams were doing Mad Max and Just Cause 3, but they both should be ashamed of themselves. I don't know which one was worse on the consoles from the technical standpoint. With Mad Max I got a gamebreaking bug which was fixed A MONTH later and there was constant low fps in the later areas (until you destroyed all the convoys). Just Cause is a mess as a whole... poor framerate mixed with insane loading times.
No idea what happened with MM but I think in JC3's case, Square Enix probably also deserves some of the blame, what with wanting to make it an online game (I think? It's been some time since I read about it but IIRC it was supposed to go into a similar direction as Triad Wars or sth.) and then changing their minds halfway through development.