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[Chairmanchuck]

So Kaldaiens FAR (Fix Automatas Resolution) Mod addd an anti-piracy check by checking whether the steam_api.dll file is legitimate.

So some people got mad and two people spammed his feedback thread and Kaldaien also banned them somehow from using the mod.

 

[Easy_D]

LOL. Good job Kaldaien.

 

[kuroneko0509]

lol nice one

 

[Massaki]

Fair play, he can do what he wants with his own mod. He probably wants to support Square in bringing more games like NIER to the PC. Somebody will likely develop a way to circumvent the checks anyway (I mean they did crack denuvo lol)

 

[Vhalyar]

Very good. Link to the feedback thread?

 

[Buzzman]

So Kaldaiens FAR (Fix Automatas Resolution) Mod addd an anti-piracy check by checking whether the steam_api.dll file is legitimate.

So some people got mad and two people spammed his feedback thread and Kaldaien also banned them somehow from using the mod.

That's concerning. Is the mod communicating with a server?

 

[Talamius]

That's actually a great idea.

 

[The Technomancer]

hah

 

[kewlmyc]

Did the same for Tales of Berseria, and that was including costume piracy.

 

[PillarEN]

Fair play, he can do what he wants with his own mod. He probably wants to support Square in bringing more games like NIER to the PC. Somebody will likely develop a way to circumvent the checks anyway (I mean they did crack denuvo lol)

That's pretty much all that can be said.

Mod his mod if you want to play on a pirated version. That's fair game. Flex ya self.

 

[Chairmanchuck]

Very good. Link to the feedback thread?

http://steamcommunity.com/app/524220/discussions/0/135512104777399045/?ctp=458

Kaldaien also got temp banned from that discussion forum it seems...

 

[IronicSonic]

Fair play, he can do what he wants with his own mod. He probably wants to support Square in bringing more games like NIER to the PC. Somebody will likely develop a way to circumvent the checks anyway (I mean they did crack denuvo lol)

This

Any antecedents of mods with anti piracy measures?

 

[squall23]

Was this what Kaldaien got banned for?

 

[Yjynx]

What a disgusting previlege people.

 

[Plumpbiscuit]

As much as our ego loves this, it's quite concerning that the mod has to connect to an unknown server to check files. Who knows what else the mod checks for or otherwise secretly installs on your computer. Mods are best used as offline programs for security reasons.

 

[Weebos]

Looks like the mod author is currently banned?

 

[AllGamer]

I like it. Good job, Kaldaien.

 

[JustSomeone]

If it's that easy to detect piracy why don't games use this method?

 

[hydrophilic attack]

excellent

 

[mieumieu]

Was this what Kaldaien got banned for?

I haven't read this specific thread but before he has some temper issues when arguing with people. Not surprised if he got banned for that.

As much as our ego loves this, it's quite concerning that the mod has to connect to an unknown server to check files. Who knows what else the mod checks for or otherwise secretly installs on your computer. Mods are best used as offline programs for security reasons.

IIRC, his mod has its own update server. You can update the mod with its own manager program.
Also the the mods are all free software so you can compile them yourself.

 

[Yappadappadu]

If someone pisses him off, then why not. As far as I read that's two ppl who were kinda disrespectful towards him?

 

[Plumpbiscuit]

If it's that easy to detect piracy why don't games use this method?

Because you won't be able to play them in offline mode otherwise.

 

[Deleted member 20920]

That's a great idea

 

[Cleve]

Holy shit, I thought youtube comment sections were bad. Now I remember why I don't browse steam forums.

If you can be banned for being rude, that thread needs to be nuked from orbit.

 

[Skulldead]

If it's that easy to detect piracy why don't games use this method?

heee you don't need to check file online each time you run the game...

 

[Gattsu25]

Was this what Kaldaien got banned for?

Enough people probably reported him :/

 

[Uiki]

Someone already cracked the mod anyway..

 

[Interfectum]

Why is the mod author banned? You buried the lead OP.

 

[Kthulhu]

Solution: don't pirate games.

As much as our ego loves this, it's quite concerning that the mod has to connect to an unknown server to check files. Who knows what else the mod checks for or otherwise secretly installs on your computer. Mods are best used as offline programs for security reasons.

Hopefully it isn't.

 

[ponpo]

Did he get banned for insulting people or banned for some part of his mod violating Steam TOS?

 

[Hux1ey]

Someone already cracked the mod anyway..

Yup.

Kaldaien is a dick anyhow.

 

[Salty Rice]

This is great and hilarious.

Fuck modern day pirates.

 

[Chairmanchuck]

Why is the mod author banned? You buried the lead OP.

I think he threw a tamper tantrum.

Or this:

Nah, he just got temp-banned for calling a guy complaining that the mod doesn't work a "pirate moron".

 

[Lichter]

Looks like the mod author is currently banned?

Because he simply broke a few forum rules (maybe insults or w/e).

 

[boblemoche]

Enough people probably reported him :/

Nah, he just got temp-banned for calling a guy complaining that the mod doesn't work a "pirate moron".

 

[Cyanity]

Don't pirate Nier. It's a fucking masterpiece, and well worth your time and money.

Spoiler

good luck getting the final ending without a server connection

 

[Kthulhu]

Did he get banned for insulting people or banned for some part of his mod violating Steam TOS?

Mod in the thread says it was due to insults.

 

[tioslash]

Somebody will likely develop a way to circumvent the checks anyway (I mean they did crack denuvo lol)

Someone already did.

 

[kiyomi]

Yup.

Kaldaien is a dick anyhow.

For modding games to run better? Or for making it so that pirates can't use his mod?

 

[Antiwhippy]

Hah, though you're getting the lesser experience if you can't connect to an online server anyway.

I'll just leave it at that.

 

[Blam]

Yeah as much as I hate piracy as the next guy. This isn't the right way of doing it. How about something less DRMy like showing a dialog before the game starts up?

 

[Chairmanchuck]

Yeah as much as I hate piracy as the next guy. This isn't the right way of doing it. How about something less DRMy like showing a dialog before the game starts up?

It is a mod. You can still pirate the Game as its cracked. You just cant use the mod.

 

[Kthulhu]

If it's that easy to detect piracy why don't games use this method?

They do. It's called DRM and it's shit because it usually doesn't work.

 

[boblemoche]

Yeah, it seems like a decent thing to do for a developer, if only to stop people with weird issues due to piracy asking for support.

 

[BrettHeazy]

Don't pirate Nier. It's a fucking masterpiece, and well worth your time and money.

Spoiler

good luck getting the final ending without a server connection

This isn't about pirating the game, Kale' made a mod that allowed for alt resolutions that weren't supported by bass game.

 

[tuxfool]

His method isn't particularly robust, it certainly doesn't compare to modern DRM. If someone really wanted to, they could make his mod work with a pirated copy.

However, somebody would have to work to do that.

 

[Gbraga]

Honestly, that's a bit concerning. I didn't know he could do something like that. Maybe I just didn't read the thread properly before installing the mod.

I'm totally fine with the mod not working on pirated copies, but that was already modded by pirates. As always with this kind of stuff, only the honest consumers are at risk here, pirates find a way to circumvent any of the crap we have to deal with.

It is a mod, though, so I guess I could always just uninstall if I'm not comfortable with it.

 

[Hux1ey]

For modding games to run better? Or for making it so that pirates can't use his mod?

Because of how he acts on Steam forums. He's an egomaniacal man-child.

 

[FiraB]

Fair move but what stops them simply using an older version of FAR?

 

[Easy_D]

If it's that easy to detect piracy why don't games use this method?

Because the cracked exe is made to work together with the altered steamapi.dll

Because of how he acts on Steam forums. He's an egomaniacal man-child.

Is he? I've had complaints about changes he made to TZFix (which resulted in bad performance drops on my end) and he responded by calmly explaining his reasoning for the changes made, he's always quick to respond if you have a question too