losslessFlac
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kinda pissed off with Sony's attitude towards Europe
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M1chl
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But we are on the same page then as what you quoted initially... I had rough day, but still that's what I am getting from.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
In general? Yes
Been like that for decades
You think the PSX price £299 Vs $299 was fair?
Do you know how much $300 dollars was in pounds?
It wasn't even comparable.
I remember paying 490 French Francs in 1986 at my local retail shop for a C64 Disk game called Leader Board Golf by Access Software
490 FF/6.55957 = 74,70 Euros... not even taking inflation into account here...
Gunship from Microprose the same year was a true bargain at 420 FF (around 64€)...
Phrixotrichus
Banned
imagine being such an immensely spoiled brat as to throw a fit over waiting an extra week for a toy....
I'm glad that COVID has reduced the gap to just one week vs. previous generations.
Hopefully if the second wave continues we'll get it at the same time come November.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
This. People are just looking for something to complain about.
Dodkrake
Banned
I'd be interested in knowing how a market with 320M people is bigger than a market with 570M (if you only count the EU)
Neko Mimi Mode
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Are you getting the Digital Edition? If so, I've got some bad news for you.
ripeavocado
Banned
You are consuming a product a week later jeez!
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Digital games were already 70€ most of the time, but 60€ in stores so... will physical games cost 70€? Or also 80€?
Eitherway it's a bold move, I wonder how this will affect their sales specially in poor countries.
Eitherway it's a bold move, I wonder how this will affect their sales specially in poor countries.
Ar¢tos
Member
I'm getting the digital edition sometime next year. I have a big wishlist of ps4 titles waiting for them to reach acceptable prices on sales, so even if PS5 titles aren't much cheaper, I can still enjoy the ps4 titles improved via BC (my ps4 is base edition, not Pro).
I can wait years for the right game price if I have to, gaming is a secondary hobby for me.
makaveli60
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Physical will also cost 80 €. As I said, Demon's Souls in my country will cost 50% (!) more in retail than a PS4 game costs currently.
Arkam
Member
A global pandemic is still happening that nearly cost us the launch entirely and we are crying over a week lag for some markets? WOW!!! Get some damn perspective. millions of people are still out of work and we are crying over 7 extra days to play games. Sad. Back in the day we would have to wait months (if not years) for consoles to go to markets outside of Japan.
Komatsu
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There are only 3 countries in the entire EU that spend more on gaming than Mexico.
It’s a very big market, not as big as Canada or Brazil, but still important.
S
SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
Who?
Komatsu
Member
Germany, France and Italy. Spain sometimes inches past Mexico as well, but that’s it.
Not counting the UK as they are no longer in the EU.
Slings and Arrows
Banned
Fuck Europe
Making the UK wait a week is bullshit.
Then they release game prices in dollar and Euro, when sterling existed ages before either of them.
Fuck you Sony
Making the UK wait a week is bullshit.
Then they release game prices in dollar and Euro, when sterling existed ages before either of them.
Fuck you Sony
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
But do those 570 million people buy double the number of consoles as NA?
Also, i dont think your numbers are correct. the u.s alone has 330 million people. canada is around 30 million. mexico is 126 million. so you are looking at roughly 500 million people.
BattleScar
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This thread is consumerism at its finest.
xrnzaaas
Member
Having to wait a week isn't a huge deal (although it's still a message that it's a less important market for Sony right now), but the price hikes for the games are inexcusable. I'm definitely not going to pay 80€ for a brand new first party game, even for something like God of War 2.
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Gaelyon
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PS3 was launched 4 months later in Europe than in the US.
PS4 was launched two weeks later in Europe if i remember correctly. Now it's only a week. No big deal.
Games are already at 70€ in Europe for years. But that include the 20% (on average) VAT, same for consoles price.
However it's very easy to buy physical copies day one of AAA games at 50-60€ (at least in France but i'm pretty sure mostly everywere) in many retails.
So now it's 80€, it sucks but we'll still be able to buy physical 10-20€ cheaper day one (and much less some weeks after).
PS4 was launched two weeks later in Europe if i remember correctly. Now it's only a week. No big deal.
Games are already at 70€ in Europe for years. But that include the 20% (on average) VAT, same for consoles price.
However it's very easy to buy physical copies day one of AAA games at 50-60€ (at least in France but i'm pretty sure mostly everywere) in many retails.
So now it's 80€, it sucks but we'll still be able to buy physical 10-20€ cheaper day one (and much less some weeks after).
YeulEmeralda
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No offense but EU has a population of 400 million. Its an economic superpower.
Unknown?
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So you'd rather them not have enough stock like seemingly everywhere else?
rubenburgt
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Doesn't the US usually not have VAT included. Could this be the reason?
kikonawa
Member
no its not
sobaka770
Banned
It was the same last generation, Sony knows Europe is a done market and can delay the release cause nobody will rush to get Seris X even with 9 day differential. They are more concerned for their share in USA.
As for pricing, US prices never have tax in them so the end diffence is less than you think. Case in point 70USD game with tax can get close to 80USD.
As for pricing, US prices never have tax in them so the end diffence is less than you think. Case in point 70USD game with tax can get close to 80USD.
Javthusiast
Banned
Yeah europe gets fucked on these prices. New games here were already 69.99 €. Now with the price increase they are fucking 80€.
Alebrije
Member
Mexico got it because is near to the USA and we share retailers like Amazon and Best buy beside others.
But also represents a big market right now. The PS5 was put in preorder today and on a few hours went sold out.
The problem in Europe is that besides Germany , France and UK (maybe Spain ) the rest are smaller markes compared to Mexico.
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Laconian Sword
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Come on, have you seen salaries in the Eastern half of Europe? Everything is available but most can't afford it. Doesn't matter how many people live there.
CrysisFreak
Banned
I don't know about other countries but in Germany 19% of that is actually taxes (aka theft) to feed the parasites like politicians, pensioners and foreign welfare recipients (often criminals).
Fuuuuuuuuck.
Fuuuuuuuuck.
$70 = 59 €
average vat on Europe is 23 %
59 x 1.23 = 72€
Vat should be 36% for $70 = 80€
No way blame to Vat is Sony who is scamming us. The other companies is charging 75€
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Potato Chip PRO
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Ohh you only pick on Mexico... Wait for your turn Euro boi.
Being from New Zealand I did find it a little funny that we are November 12th along with the US. I’ll have my hands on my PS5 before most because of the Timezone difference as well ha. 
But on topic, it’s only a week bro, just a week, and if you look at PlayStation launches of the past we aren’t waiting for months after to get a release. Just relax ffs.
But on topic, it’s only a week bro, just a week, and if you look at PlayStation launches of the past we aren’t waiting for months after to get a release. Just relax ffs.
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Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
not gonna stick smooky calm ur tips
dotnotbot
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Komatsu
Member
None taken. I am American, not Mexican. Still doesn’t change the fact that Mexico’s vidya market is larger than the overwhelming majority of European countries.
Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
Slings and Arrows
Banned
Luckily there's fuck all to buy at launch
Melfice7
Member
Meant games launch not the consoles
mindfreak191
Member
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it always like this, or even worse? I remember reading magazines back in '07 and the cover story was something like "the ps3 finally arrives in Europe a month after the US". Obviously it seems stupid now seeing that you can overnight a package from one end of the world to another.
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