CambriaRising
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GTAIV came out in april 2008, and didn't have much media until the months leading up to release. So it is possible that GTAV will follow the same schedule.
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Kotaku Rumor: BioShock Infinite is troubled, having issues reaching vision, cut modes
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GTAIV came out in april 2008, and didn't have much media until the months leading up to release. So it is possible that GTAV will follow the same schedule.
Meaningful partner AI has been such a roadblock for developers. EA's best and brightest tripped over themselves trying to do it with LMNO for years.
snoopeasystreet
Member
That's probably a given, but even if it is, I don't think Irrational themselves ever intended to work on it directly.
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qizah
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Hopefully it all works out.
BioShock Infinite was one of the titles I was most interested in during E3 '11. It'd be a shame if the game didn't turn out the way it was intended too.
BioShock Infinite was one of the titles I was most interested in during E3 '11. It'd be a shame if the game didn't turn out the way it was intended too.
You are maybe a little too optimistic about how good developers are at planning development cycles.
"God's Beard!"
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I meant the earlier one that showed the testing level for the sky hook thing. So we know basic mechanics work. versus and TLG were just random tidbits.
Speedymanic
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DICKS AHOY
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Can't say multiplayer being the main thing cut from Infinite is that big of a letdown (source itself says it was mostly there to avoid trade-ins), but teams moving around this late in its development gets me nervous. Really hope if things aren't working out they have the common sense to delay the game more instead of rushing what they have out the door for February.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Wait, when was this even delayed to February?
DragonSworne
Banned
There were too many graphical issue for me to get into this game.
I find it funny that BB had ads and videos of this game running in stores back in spring. Wonder how much that cost?
I find it funny that BB had ads and videos of this game running in stores back in spring. Wonder how much that cost?
Out of Working Order
Member
Get Miyamoto in. He'll just upend a few tables: and voilà! Bioshock Prime!
Bad news are always announced at the last possible moment...it would not be the first time that Take Two fools investors into believing that they have something big coming during the fiscal year....and then 'sorry guys, an other year of losses but GTA is coming in the next fiscal year''
It is impossible for GTAV to be released in March with Bioshock coming in February. They have to adjust the release schedule so that they don't cannibalize their own sales. So yeah, it will miss the current fiscal year.
Back in May.
The Xtortionist
Member
Be still, my beating heart.
legacyzero
Banned
Damn. Infinite looks fucking awesome too. The concept alone has me light years more excited than the last two Bioshocks.
Ingueferroque
Banned
What? Looked like another scripted shooter to me, with great art-direction and presentation.
Although the trans-dimensional stuff could of course be difficult to implement, I just didn't expect that to be anything but scripted/timed events.
Speedymanic
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GlamFM
Banned
Bad news are always announced at the last possible moment...it would not be the first time that Take Two fools investors into believing that they have something big coming during the fiscal year....and then 'sorry guys, an other year of losses but GTA is coming in the next fiscal year''
It is impossible for GTAV to be released in March with Bioshock coming in February. They have to adjust the release schedule so that they don't cannibalize their own sales. So yeah, it will miss the current fiscal year.
I think you are right.
The article mentions that the project is troubled in more than just one area.
GlamFM
Banned
Wait what?
Which part?
That depends on how scripted it was. While it's very literally 'on rails', you can always drop off and on to another one, or at least that's the implication. My point was more a question of art resources though. That area can't just be for that moment, so while it's stunning (to me at least) for those ten minutes, that's because you're seeing all of that for the first time. The game can't have that much content of that quality and not reuse it. It would take too long, and cost too much. Think about how much area you actually cover in ten minutes of BioShock, or any normal shooter, it's nothing by comparison.
That is a game to be worried about. Lots of developers have tackled this problem and come up short, either making her a Goddess that doesn't warrant your care like Elika. HL2 of course had Alyx, and did some really beautiful stuff with creating and dissipating that sense of loneliness, but within the actual game, she's not very meaningful at all, she'll occasionally surprise you by reacting to something like you shooting a TV, but then she'll completely ignore you shooting around her or throwing shit at her. Yorda was amazing, but had to be so abstracted from the real world that her actions within the game wouldn't seem completely absurd.
No one has done it right in the context of a real relationship. Considering everyone is going after it, it's going to be done sooner or later, maybe this, maybe LToU, maybe HL3, I can't wait to see who it is.
Given that he didn't change his Twitter tag, that would actually make a lot of sense.
Rod leaves, the second biggest figure on the new Gears takes over his position.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
The thing about the Versus story is that the actual information in the story was pretty incoherent and there's virtually no source Kotaku could have had that would have been able to provide them with the information they reported.
This story is very plausible in that literally anyone working at Irrational would be able to provide this information.
GlamFM
Banned
The Part where Sony is pushing Bioshock.
I agree and it's true that pretty much every ambitious developer is now targeting AI as the next big thing. I actually expect next gen will focus on this by quite a lot as well, thanks to these ambitious developers no longer constrained so much by RAM.
I think Sony should show us a new demo for TLOU at Gamescon and hopefully we'll see more of Ellie. ND are very open about the fact that the challenge of making this game is making Ellie as believable in her actions as she possibly can be. Also the game is already 3 years in development and will probably be 4 years by the time it ships which is a huge amount of time, especially considering they aren't even making a new engine for the game and I imagine quite a few assets will get reskinned from Uncharted games for TLOU. That just shows how much of challenge it is to nail the AI.
Sony had Levine on stage at e3 in 2011 to show Bioshock Infinite and announce the Vita Bioshock. Levine also announced move support and later went on to state that they will be showing a demo of the move implantation (that hasn't happened yet, mind you). Also there's the Big Daddy inclusion in PASBR (with Levine actually writing his storyline) and the Columbia stage which we learn about from the leak. I'd say it's safe to say Sony is Bioshock Infinite.
Criminal Upper
Banned
Hey, if multiplayer is cut, that can only be good news.
It'll be interesting to see how Elizabeth ends up in the final product, and if they've had to greatly curtail the ambition there just to get the game out at some point.
Better yet, drop the idea of multiplayer entirely when the inclination to include one comes down to a bullet point meant to combat used game sales.
The "throw shit at the wall and see what sticks" method probably doesn't benefit a development cycle when it revolves around entire game modes rather than smaller ideas.
Cow Mengde
Banned
The game also plays like shit.
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
Nate Wells leaving is pretty huge.
He was the art lead on the original BioShock as well as SWAT 4 and stuff far back as System Shock 2.
He was the art lead on the original BioShock as well as SWAT 4 and stuff far back as System Shock 2.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
..but don't you remember about how Red Dead Redemption was utterly completely fucked in development.. and people thought it would be a huge failure form the rumors flying.
Turned out great.
I'm hoping this does the same.. the last 2 games were great.
Turned out great.
I'm hoping this does the same.. the last 2 games were great.
Infinite or BioShock?
Cow Mengde
Banned
First one. Never played Infinite.
Always-honest
Banned
i agree with this.