KS8000 settings for gaming at 4k/HDR

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What should my backlight be in a well lit room using sdr material? Before I'd leave it at 20 so I wouldn't need to keep changing it.
Turn on something SDR you want to watch/play.
Pause it.
Turn the backlight all the way down to 0.
Close your eyes for 30 seconds
Now, open your eyes and start moving the backlight setting up until the picture looks natural
Leave it! (Do NOT start bumping it up and then back down to do A-B comparisons because that will cause your eyes to readjust and you'll end up too high.)
 
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Honestly I set sharpness to 50 or over when playing games like Uncharted 4 because it isn't checkerboard or 4K so it looks blurry if I leave sharpness where other games are. Really wish it was higher res.
 
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Is it possible that with the last firmware Samsung has messed with the color space settings? Before, Native color space was super saturated and Auto was more natural, but with firmware 1220 it's the other way around, color look much more saturated with Auto color space. This is with game mode enabled, SDR content.

Anyone else noticed? Maybe Native is the right setting now?
 
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I wonder why they use Medium for Dynamic Contrast when displaying HDR.
It's just the default, in order to get that "ooh, those blacks are like to black and whites so white!"-effect in a retailer settings I guess. Dynamic contrast definitely off, especially with HDR content (whether it is appropriate for SDR is debatable).
 
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So this latest update has made my set considerably more dim overall and even dynamic contrast doesn't help. Here's the fun thing, I only used game mode for multiplayer stuff, so my regular HDR settings stayed the same after the update. My settings were exactly the same only now I'm finding myself having to turn up in game brightness in every game I've tried since the update. And of course that just makes the picture washed out. They absolutely did something or messed with the contrast or brightness of the set and I cannot for the life of me get it to look as good as it did five minutes before I updated. That's likely why they turned Dynamic Contrast on by default, to try to make up for how it looks dimmer or they screwed up the contrast.

So, I'm honestly a little infuriated after spending so long getting perfect settings for my tastes. Can you revert to the very first firmware by accessing that hidden menu with that button combination ? Or am I off to their forums to get ignored for years until I get rid of this and buy a new TV.
 
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HDR Brightness bug? What do you mean by that? KS7090 was available only in Germany AFAIK.
Previously, there was only a single setting in game mode for both SDR and HDR. So when changing between SDR and HDR the user had to manually adjust the backlight at the very least (surely no one runs SDR with the backlight set to 20... right?). But now there are separate settings for both, with the TV automatically switching settings when needed.
 
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Changed my HDR settings with the new update. These seem to be on point for both Xbox and PS4 for me.

Game mode
Backlight 20
Brightness 40
Contrast 100
Sharpness 15
Colour 50
Smart LED High
Dynamic Contrast Medium
Colour Tone Warm 1
Gamma 0
Colour Space Auto

Every game I’ve tested looks great. Dynamic contrast off just makes games flat dull and grey. Dynamic contrast high really blows out the image compared to the earlier version number I was on.

Edit: I’ve also noticed that there is a lot less colour banding with this latest patch. I had some issues with lights into darks in some games like the witness in HDR and it’s all gone.
 
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Previously, there was only a single setting in game mode for both SDR and HDR. So when changing between SDR and HDR the user had to manually adjust the backlight at the very least (surely no one runs SDR with the backlight set to 20... right?). But now there are separate settings for both, with the TV automatically switching settings when needed.
It's not brightness bug but simply a hdr game mode fix we have been talking about for the last year.
 
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Changed my HDR settings with the new update. These seem to be on point for both Xbox and PS4 for me.

Game mode
Backlight 20
Brightness 40
Contrast 100
Sharpness 15
Colour 50
Smart LED High
Dynamic Contrast Medium
Colour Tone Warm 1
Gamma 0
Colour Space Auto

Every game I’ve tested looks great. Dynamic contrast off just makes games flat dull and grey. Dynamic contrast high really blows out the image compared to the earlier version number I was on.

Edit: I’ve also noticed that there is a lot less colour banding with this latest patch. I had some issues with lights into darks in some games like the witness in HDR and it’s all gone.
You and I share the same eye lol. Almost identical to what I had to adjust my settings to after 1220.
 
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Changed my HDR settings with the new update. These seem to be on point for both Xbox and PS4 for me.

Game mode
Backlight 20
Brightness 40
Contrast 100
Sharpness 15
Colour 50
Smart LED High
Dynamic Contrast Medium
Colour Tone Warm 1
Gamma 0
Colour Space Auto

Every game I’ve tested looks great. Dynamic contrast off just makes games flat dull and grey. Dynamic contrast high really blows out the image compared to the earlier version number I was on.

Edit: I’ve also noticed that there is a lot less colour banding with this latest patch. I had some issues with lights into darks in some games like the witness in HDR and it’s all gone.
Curious to know your sdr settings?
 
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Had the same issue, it turned out that update changed Energy saving settings and light sensor was turned on. Disable it and brightness will be back to normal:)
I made sure all my eco settings are set to off. It isn't fixed :/. I'm having issues with both brights and darks. My black levels aren't getting anywhere near where they were before this update, and neither are the whites. I'm getting light bleed now all the sudden any time there's a dark screen with even a tiny light source, 2/3 of the screen lights up and I'm not getting any true blacks. And that's with brightness all the way down in the 20's even. This is awful. I never should have updated.

Edit : I did a complete factory reset from the hidden service menu. Not sure if it's completely fixed but it already looks much brighter than it was so this could be a good sign.
 
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Changed my HDR settings with the new update. These seem to be on point for both Xbox and PS4 for me.

Game mode
Backlight 20
Brightness 40
Contrast 100
Sharpness 15
Colour 50
Smart LED High
Dynamic Contrast Medium
Colour Tone Warm 1
Gamma 0
Colour Space Auto

Every game I’ve tested looks great. Dynamic contrast off just makes games flat dull and grey. Dynamic contrast high really blows out the image compared to the earlier version number I was on.

Edit: I’ve also noticed that there is a lot less colour banding with this latest patch. I had some issues with lights into darks in some games like the witness in HDR and it’s all gone.
What are your ps4/XB1 settings?
 
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I really appreciate this thread since I own this TV. Thanks to all who post for their input on updates to the firmware. Glad I have mine not connected to the Wi-Fi and auto updating. At least I can make the call if I want the latest patch.
 
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Yeah I had to get it via usb yesterday as well (UK).

So all seems good, however still got the auto/native issue.

With SDR auto is right and with HDR Native is right (auto produces are more saturated intense image on HDR content).

Is this just my set? As native is meant to provide a less saturated accurate image on both types of content isn't it. If someone could check there settings during HDR that would be brilliant. Maybe it's a UK only firmware bug?
 
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Yeah I had to get it via usb yesterday as well (UK).

So all seems good, however still got the auto/native issue.

With SDR auto is right and with HDR Native is right (auto produces are more saturated intense image on HDR content).

Is this just my set? As native is meant to provide a less saturated accurate image on both types of content isn't it. If someone could check there settings during HDR that would be brilliant. Maybe it's a UK only firmware bug?

Auto is the way to go with HDR. I explained above.
 
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Basically. It's the Sam's Club/Costco version of the same set. There may be some minor differences but most of the info in this thread will also apply.
Oh okay, after a bit of research it's literally the same set/panel with a different bezel color. The KS8000 has like a chrome/brushed aluminum bezel, the KS800D is like black chrome with a gunmetal brushed aluminum bezel.
 
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But that should saturate the colours more than Native? Because that's what it does on HDR mode on my set (the opposite as with SDR).

The ISF engineer did a lot of tests with my set and Native seems to be broken: with SDR content it saturates the colors to hell and back and it does the opposite with HDR. If you don't have professional tools at your disposal just do some tests regarding the color red: you could try games like Forza Horizon 3 or GT Sport. You will notice that the red ferrari just turns into some sort of pinkish color. It does the same with all colors, just easier to notice with red.
 
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The ISF engineer did a lot of tests with my set and Native seems to be broken: with SDR content it saturates the colors to hell and back and it does the opposite with HDR. If you don't have professional tools at your disposal just do some tests regarding the color red: you could try games like Forza Horizon 3 or GT Sport. You will notice that the red ferrari just turns into some sort of pinkish color. It does the same with all colors, just easier to notice with red.
Ya I noticed when playing nhl 18. I compared my panthers jersey to the one in the game and it was way off when using native color mode.
 
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can someone help me out? im on a ks8000 us with firmware 1207. ive downloaded the update to usb and i keep getting the error no updates are located on your usb. am i doing something incorrect? ive updated the firmware through usb like 3 times.
What I did was putting the file in several locations in the memory:

The zip on the root folder
The unzipped file on a folder with the same name as the file
The unzipped file on the root folder

One of those 3 was the correct one because it worked...
 
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I really wish that they allowed more control over the input icons in the menu bar. I know that there are some "special" icons that are triggered by the input name, but there's not even a list of those anywhere.
 
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I know this is an age old debate but with HDR should dynamic contrast be used? The description says it prevents excessive difference between light and dark so you would think it works against HDR.. but then again it's on medium by default by the manufacturer.

With warm 2, and colour space auto I still have to reduce the brightness (in game menus) a lot to get anything resembling an improvement.

Just about to start god of war and between setting the tv options and then the in Game options, it kind of makes you wish for the days of plug in and play lol.
 
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