https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_cobain
(February 20, 1967 April 5, 1994)
oh god, it just gets worse from here doesn't it.
(February 20, 1967 April 5, 1994)
oh god, it just gets worse from here doesn't it.
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Kurt Cobain would have turned 50 years old today
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Time trips me out. I'm surprised how old Kurt is, but also how young Washington is
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Possibly, but also, its possible that their commercial viability could have faded while they continued to put out solid records, a la Dinosaur Jr..
Suicide and mental health awareness alone make him more important that you or I already. The fact that Nirvana changed how record labels and radio work with one album is no insignificant footnote.
Would you say the same about Hendrix?
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In Utero was their best record. I think Kurt wouldn't have continued to put albums out if he had nothing to sah.
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He was a great musician, but I definitely think his earlier works like "French and Indian Wars" and "Mount Vernon" were more impressive than his more mainstream "Revolutionary".
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Beat EviLore at pool.
Sure, and Godsmack is the better Alice in Chains.
It would have been interesting to see how Cobain would have fared now. I think the comparisons to Mark Lanegan and Dino Jr are apt, though Kurt was more of a media darling than them. I think Nirvana breaks up after one more record and Grohl releases the Foo Fighters album (most of those songs were demos he worked on when Cobain was still alive). I wonder if they would have feuded, I can see Kurt resenting their more radio friendly sound, especially in the later years.
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That interview with El Duce where he says his "friend Allen" killed Kurt is hilarious.
Context: The "Allen" in question is a friend of the family. He filmed a commercial for his business at our home WITH El Duce.
Context: The "Allen" in question is a friend of the family. He filmed a commercial for his business at our home WITH El Duce.
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I could see Kurt becoming a recluse after In Utero or a couple albums or so. What a shame that he died, he was a great songwriter. Not the best guitarist, but he still had a sound that you knew instantly was him.
and he would want that
and he would want that
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I imagine if he hadn't killed himself then he would've died in the same hole as Layne Staley. Dude was not mentally fit.
This.
Heroin, mental illness and getting too famous too fast. I often wonder if Neil Young had managed to sit down and talk to him, get him out to his farm, away from all the bullshit for awhile, whether that would have made a difference. Probably not.
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Nirvana just tends to get shit on by pretty much everyone who didn't grow up listening to them.
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The song well was pretty much dry after In Utero. Only You Know You're Right and Do-Re-mi out there unless there's a secret stash or recordings (unlikely). Don't think many people realise Kurt wrote a bunch of the classic songs on In Utero before recording Nevermind. Who knows where they were going.
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I don't know, I think he would've been fine if had just broke up with Love way earlier. She was enabling him and causing problems. But who knows, you're probably right.
Puddle of Mudd is better than both.
That "Oceans are between us but that's not very far" song is actually good.
One of the last songs Kurt composed, Do Re Mi, is so beautiful I remember first hearing after getting the With the Lights Out box set. On weaker days it can make me tear up a little.
I'd kill to hear the versions with Pat smear. Still unreleased. This personal accoustic version with Kurt going at it solo is just beautiful though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXWDpTE7cXk
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Cobain didn't have a lot of time to write new music from the time In Utero was finished to when he killed himself. I believe they finished recording in early 1993, they were still fighting a custody battle with LA County for his daughter regarding the Vanity Fair article and then went into tour mode for the second half of the year. So hard to say the song well was dry at that point. I still don't know why they went to Europe before doing a complete US tour.
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Sorry but it's the truth. Dying early, for whatever reason, is the ultimate career move and guarantees your longevity for decades to come. Just ask
2Pac
Biggie
Elvis
Big L
Cobain
2Pac
Biggie
Elvis
Big L
Cobain
You forgot the original king of the posthumous release, Jimi Hendrix. I'm sure the Doors benefitted from Morrison's death as well. Joy Division maybe.
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yeah, because 2Pac, Biggie, and Elvis didn't make an impact at all in their hey day and only remembered due to dying early. Cobain was the most influential person in music back in the 90s. No other band except maybe Radiohead could compete with that.
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Eh, nobody really would expect one of the nicest guys in the music industry to be a murder suspect. Everyone would be pointing to Kurt's crack addled wife.
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It's interesting to me that the songs people say were indicative of their new sound and his new writing style like Heart-shaped Box, All Apologies, Pennyroyal Tea, Dumb etc were half or completely written before Nevermind and then polished for In Utero. That's why I say it's totally unknown, because the small amount of songs written after don't really give much indication of where their overall sound was heading towards. It's a bit of a mish-mash of half finished ideas. He even said he would have to start completely from scratch after In Utero and that was an unknown prospect for him (I can't remember exactly what interview he said this in though.)
Anyway, exploring Nirvana became all about bootlegs and live performances for me. So much cool stuff out there, and stuff still being found that Nirvana never really goes away for me.
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Not to completely side track but I always felt so bad for Bradley Nowell of Sublime. Like Kurt, he left behind a baby (and Lou Dog ;_
but unlike Kurt he never actually got to see his band excite the entire world before he passed. All those records sold of the self titled album and he never saw any of it take shape. Guy could have been set for life because nobody was buying those albums out of sympathy for the dead. People just really liked those Sublime singles from the self titled album after maybe, just maybe hearing Date Rape a few times on their radio station. Maybe not even that if they weren't on the west coast.
Heroin sucks.
but unlike Kurt he never actually got to see his band excite the entire world before he passed. All those records sold of the self titled album and he never saw any of it take shape. Guy could have been set for life because nobody was buying those albums out of sympathy for the dead. People just really liked those Sublime singles from the self titled album after maybe, just maybe hearing Date Rape a few times on their radio station. Maybe not even that if they weren't on the west coast. Heroin sucks.
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Nirvana was massive for years before Cobain died; he might have become a bigger star for all we know but they'd already made a huge mark on music before he died.
Same with 2pac or BIggie; they would still be legends and might have continued to be culturally relevant.
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Kurt was talking about experimenting with 80's new wave months before he died. He actually did say that he was completely bored with Grunge. It was in an old Much Music Canada interview.
Grohl was the drummer in Nirvana, and we all know that drummers always had a history of being the most expendable member of a rock band...
I'm just making up my own conspiracies.
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