L.A. Noire Switch details: Touchscreen control, Gyro aim, 1080p docked, 720p handheld

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CPU in 360 is surely more powerful than that in Switch.
Fucking lol.
Enough with this shit. Just because it's newer doesn't mean it's better. It is mobile tech after all. I'm asking. Hence the question marks. Switch isn't running a Tegra X1 at 1:1 clock speeds and it doesn't utilize all cores last I heard. If it was it's another story, but this isn't the case. That leaves the question of how much power is actually available. Sure it can run on it. Just trying to speculate on how many things that have to be scaled down from existing versions and what resolution you could expect.
No you're not asking, The only question mark you used was in a rethorical question where you told the other person how the Tegra in the Switch isn't running at full speed. The Switch isn't weaker than the 360. Stop.
 
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I don't think believing that the 360 is more powerful than the Switch is compatible with having enough common sense to be able to operate a computer so I'll assume he's trolling
 
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AHAHAHAHHA PEOPLE ARE ARGUING THE 360/PS3 CPUs HAVE BETTER PERFORMANCE THAN THE SWITCH'S

Pack it up guys. We have peaked.
Now that the Switch is getting stuff like LA Noire, Fifa or Doom/Wolfenstein 2 the "but third parties"- crowd has to resort to analog triggers and made up BS like what you're describing. It's getting pathetic.
 
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Now that the Switch is getting stuff like LA Noire, Fifa or Doom/Wolfenstein 2 the "but third parties"-crowd has to resort to analog triggers and made up BS like what you're describing. It's getting pathetic.
Lmao I didn't connect the two facts

Like

They are arguing that a console that is getting Wolfestein 2 has a worse CPU than the 360

lmaooooooo
 
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It's cool they're porting this but I do wish it was something else. I guess this is a testing ground for potential future ports so wish it succeas but wish it wasn't something as meh as la noire.
 
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Sounds like a good port, I'm not big on story/cutscene heavy games but I might give it a try with my wife since she loves detective shows.

Anyway, regarding CPU comparisons, IIRC the Cell CPU in the PS3 actually does have a decent amount more raw power than even the Jaguars in the PS4 and XB1, but for whatever reason is highly inefficient and hard to optimize for. I don't remember what was in the 360, but the fact that the Switch CPU is even newer than the Jaguars should tell you that, regardless of raw grunt, the efficiency gains put it comfortably ahead of last gen.

It's cool they're porting this but I do wish it was something else. I guess this is a testing ground for potential future ports so wish it succeas but wish it wasn't something as meh as la noire.
Considering it's coming to all consoles I just figured they had planned to port this regardless of Switch and decided to add Switch as a platform once Nintendo showed it off to them.
 
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Isn't comparing speeds and flops from older chips irrelevant, due to those specs being theoretical? Like, on paper, they look much more powerful than they actually are, and because of terrible efficiency, the on-paper specs are nowhere near reflective of real world performance?

I'm not a tech person, so I don't know.
 
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I don't know if I'll pick that game up. It doesn't sound like a type of game I would like to play. On the other hand, I'd kill for a GTAV Switch port, and we all know R* will interpret the lovv sales of that game as an indicator, that Switch owners aren't interested in their games at all. Why is Rockstar doing that to us?
 
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Sounds like best way to play it, too bad the game has less gameplay than most Taletell games. The shooting and driving is almost pointless in the game, some cases are kind of interesting, the whole telling if the person lying was mostly hype, didn’t work so well even though the game deserves credit for trying.
 
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Isn't comparing speeds and flops from older chips irrelevant, due to those specs being theoretical? Like, on paper, they look much more powerful than they actually are, and because of terrible efficiency, the on-paper specs are nowhere near reflective of real world performance?

I'm not a tech person, so I don't know.
Yes you are correct. Basically new technology > old technology.
 

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Wow this is a really good port im surprised at the resolution. Pretty impressive although I won't be picking it up. The emotion engine in Ps2 is more powerful than the cpu in Switch.
I mean, have you seen that Crash Bandicoot tech demo? Surely there is no way that can run on a handheld. Well, maybe it can on the Vita, but I doubt the Switch can handled it.
 
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It's cool they're porting this but I do wish it was something else. I guess this is a testing ground for potential future ports so wish it succeas but wish it wasn't something as meh as la noire.
I agree with it being meh, but I don't think it's as much "testing ground" as it is a remaster they were already working on, so they figured why not include the Switch. It's the game the team was already working on. Contrast this with Doom, which is by comparison a late port not coming out on anything else at this time.

They've gotta make their money back on this somehow. On that note, anybody else find it kinda shitty when they do rereleases like this knowing that all the actors involved see no additional pay? (I'm assuming this based on knowing people who were in GTA V)
 
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That post doesn't even mention Cell and Xenon!
It mentions Jaguars which are used in PS4/X1. If the Switch compares favorably to the CPU in current gen machines, it stands to reason that A.) it would also beat PS360 CPU's and B.) it would be able to run GTAV since it's on both systems.

The bottom line is the CPU in the Switch is NOT an issue for any game that was on PS360.

Edit: Glad to see this gets a resolution bump. When there was no mention of improved graphics I mentioned it should at least get a resolution bump, but with some devs deciding to keep the resolution the same between docked/undocked it's nice to get confirmation. Will be picking this up and giving it a try at some point.
 

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Sounds like a good port, I'm not big on story/cutscene heavy games but I might give it a try with my wife since she loves detective shows.

Anyway, regarding CPU comparisons, IIRC the Cell CPU in the PS3 actually does have a decent amount more raw power than even the Jaguars in the PS4 and XB1, but for whatever reason is highly inefficient and hard to optimize for. I don't remember what was in the 360, but the fact that the Switch CPU is even newer than the Jaguars should tell you that, regardless of raw grunt, the efficiency gains put it comfortably ahead of last gen.
The CPU in 360 is called Xenon and it's virtually identical to 3x ps3 PPE (PPE is Cell sans the SPEs). Both Xenon and Cell had considerable FLOPS power (Cell in particular, thanks to the SPEs), but both had major general-purpose issues. Anyhow, if that will help get this thread back on track, here's a direct comparison between ps3 PPE (remember, identical to Xenon), and Cortex A57:

7zip LZMA benchmark charts:
(1st numerical colum is num threads, 2nd is clock, 3rd and 4th - compress and decompress score, resp)
Code:
IBM Cell PPE
1 core, 2 threads 	1 	3200 	720 	1060
                        2 	        900 	1500
                        4 	        1000 	1500
Code:
AMD Opteron A1170 (Cortex-A57)
8 cores
64-bit (aarch64) 	1 	2000 	2160 	2040
                        8 	        13200 	15800
For an apples-to-apples re the individual cores performance, one should take the 2-thread results for PPE and compare those to the 1-thread result for A57; result for latter should also be halved for clock (2GHz in Opteron vs 1GHz in switch).

Enough from me, I'll let you do your own computations. Now, back on topic.

Man, those gyro controls should be friggin mandatory by now!
 
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It mentions Jaguars which are used in PS4/X1. If the Switch compares favorably to the CPU in current gen machines, it stands to reason that A.) it would also beat PS360 CPU's and B.) it would be able to run GTAV since it's on both systems.

The bottom line is the CPU in the Switch is NOT an issue for any game that was on PS360.
Nah dude, they can port PS4/One games (Wolf2) but not PS360 games. Make sense! :D
 
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With Amazon Prime discount it'll come out to around $40 for me so I think I'll get it on impulse.

I would preorder if Amazon actually had it up yet...
 
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Rocket League doesn't really require lower speeds though. CPU in 360 is surely more powerful than that in Switch.
is this the new meme now or is there a competition for "most asinine thing posted on gaf today" going that I've missed?

I don't think believing that the 360 is more powerful than the Switch is compatible with having enough common sense to be able to operate a computer so I'll assume he's trolling
Who knows, the truth might surprise us. I just come from reading an amazon product page for a microphone with a customer question asking if this microphone can be used to listen to music. Anything is possible.
 
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The CPU in 360 is called Xenon and it's virtually identical to 3x ps3 PPE (PPE is Cell sans the SPEs). Both Xenon and Cell had considerable FLOPS power (Cell in particular, thanks to the SPEs), but both had major general-purpose issues. Anyhow, if that will help get this thread back on track, here's a direct comparison between ps3 PPE (remember, identical to Xenon), and Cortex A57:

7zip LZMA benchmark charts:
(1st numerical colum is num threads, 2nd is clock, 3rd and 4th - compress and decompress score, resp)
Code:
IBM Cell PPE
1 core, 2 threads 	1 	3200 	720 	1060
                        2 	        900 	1500
                        4 	        1000 	1500
Code:
AMD Opteron A1170 (Cortex-A57)
8 cores
64-bit (aarch64) 	1 	2000 	2160 	2040
                        8 	        13200 	15800
For an apples-to-apples re the individual cores performance, one should take the 2-thread results for PPE and compare those to the 1-thread result for A57; result for latter should also be halved for clock (2GHz in Opteron vs 1GHz in switch).

Enough from me, I'll let you do your own computations. Now, back on topic.

Man, those gyro controls should be friggin mandatory by now!
Based on the comparison you posted it doesn't really look like the Switch CPU performs well in that benchmark. They look about the same.
 

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Based on the comparison you posted it doesn't really look like the Switch CPU performs well in that benchmark. They look about the same.
Per core. Xenon has 3 cores and switch has 4 cores.